As a side note, you do not have to be running Vista to use the Vista Help
and Support. It is also online at
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...S/default.mspx. This is useful
for answering Vista questions in the ng if you happen to be in XP at the
time.
The Defragmenter help page is
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...f18a61033.mspx
It explains how to change the schedule.
This is from a chat on defrag (TechBeta live chat on 7/26/06):
"Q: When does my computer get defragged if it is down at 1 AM on Wednesday?
A: Next time you turn it on, defrag will run 30 minutes after starting
Vista. "
"Daze N. Knights" <Daze@microchip.com> wrote in message
news:u944CC5DHHA.3524@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>> They didn't dumb it down. They wrote a whole new defrag. That one has
>> gotten negative feedback in TechBeta as well (concerning the lack of an
>> informative GUI). The team offered as a reason that it was designed to
>> run automatically (it runs once a week) and meant for folks who neither
>> know nor care about what defragging is. I guess they are dumbing down
>> the users a bit there, but there you have it. I think they got the
>> message all right. I suspect that the team just didn't have the time and
>> resources allocated to do much more than they did for release. It will
>> go through iterations and develop a GUI more to everyone's liking. It
>> will probably show up frequently in the Vista ng's also.
>>
>> "Daze N. Knights" <Daze@microchip.com> wrote in message
>> news:ObfFzl3DHHA.3596@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>>>> You bet. The discussion involved a lot of MVP's and what we were
>>>> trying to tell MS was that half of our time in the Vista newsgroups
>>>> were sooner or later going to be about explaining to newbies why the
>>>> darned thing vanished and how to get it back. I dread it.
>>>>
>>>> "Daze N. Knights" <Daze@microchip.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23itXc5zDHHA.4144@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>>>>>> Apparently an empty desktop was a fav configuration with somebody
>>>>>> high up in MS and he just figured everybody should live that way.
>>>>>> The fact that all one has to do is uncheck the box in personalization
>>>>>> to do the same thing didn't seem to satisfy him. The Vista team
>>>>>> themselves commented in a chat that they had quite a few folks in MS
>>>>>> who didn't like the change either. "I lost my Recycle Bin" will be
>>>>>> the most frequent posting in here before long. I think I've done it
>>>>>> myself three times during the year and a half of beta testing. I
>>>>>> wonder if there is a registry entry that can take the choice off of
>>>>>> the context menu?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Daze N. Knights" <Daze@microchip.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:%237Z9K8yDHHA.1748@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>>>>>>>> I have been hammering on the Vista Team for a year and a half that
>>>>>>>> folks would constantly do this. "Delete" and "Empty the Trash" can
>>>>>>>> get mixed up too easily. It's the only desktop icon with anything
>>>>>>>> like this kind of pair.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Carl" <Carl@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:AC85280F-BB65-4B80-8314-BEBB5C1914F5@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>> Right-click desktop. Click "Personalize" Look in Left side bar
>>>>>>>>> for "Change
>>>>>>>>> Desktop Icons" choose those you want (or don't want) to appear.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> PS: I did the same thing today!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Carl
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Daze N. Knights" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Went to empty out the recycle bin from the desktop on my Vista
>>>>>>>>>> RC2 using
>>>>>>>>>> the right-click menu, accidentally picked "Delete" from the menu,
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> the desktop recycle bin vanished. One couldn't even do such a
>>>>>>>>>> thing in
>>>>>>>>>> XP . . . Now, how do I get it back?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Daze
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep. It will be a constant problem, especially since it has never
>>>>>>> been so easily deletable before, and that's what folks are used to.
>>>>>>> I'm astonished that they would suddenly change this in Vista.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Daze
>>>>> Amazing. It's almost like MS is playing a joke on MILLIONS of people
>>>>> who are going to be freaking out over having deleted their Recycle
>>>>> Bin. Well, I'm glad that I learned of this now, before people start
>>>>> calling ME for help getting it back.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Daze
>>>>
>>> I can't believe MS wouldn't listen to you. It's sooo obvious. I've
>>> actually deleted the durn thing and had to get it back two more times
>>> since my last post to this thread. I'm not used to having the option of
>>> deleting the Recycle Bin, and I can't imagine why it should be so easy
>>> to do. How often does one need to delete it, anyway? It should be harder
>>> to delete it, than to restore it, but MS has it the wrong way around.
>>> Like you, I sure hope there's a reg hack to fix this.
>>>
>>> I while I'm complaining, I just tried defragging for the first time and
>>> was surprised to discover that it provides no information whatsoever as
>>> to progress, etc. It just tells you it may take minutes or hours. Having
>>> no clue as to whether it was actually making any progress, I gave up and
>>> turned it off. Whose idea was it to dumb-down the defrag utility?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Daze
>>
>>
>
> Thanks for the information, Colin. I could see that the automation was
> newly emphasized, set to run, as I recall, though, late at night, which
> won't be too helpful, unfortunately, for folks like myself that turn their
> systems off most every night. But I know lots of ordinary users that
> ritually run the defrag, and they're going to be very disappointed with
> the dull, non-informative GUI. I think that most folks that never run the
> defrag themselves also turn their computers off each night, so the auto
> will never kick in for them. Or will it run the next time that Windows
> starts up, if missed?
>
> --
> Daze
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