Battlefield 2142

I think it's called, Making the Customer Happy.

Business 101, if that's what the customer wants, that's what the customer
gets.

WinXP costs the same as Vista, I'm sure it's no skin off their teeth to swap
your Vista for an XP, if that's what you want. Keep in mind though a lot of
hardware that is coming pre-installed with Vista does NOT have drivers for
Windows XP. Mainly laptops. I had several Sony Vaio notebooks I tried to
downgrade from Vista to XP, and it flat out did not work.

Just something to keep in mind when you finally decide to downgrade Zero.
I'd contact Dell before you decide to make the switch and make sure drivers
for your hardware are available under XP. Shouldn't be a problem with a
Desktop, but you never know.

Not saying XP is the wrong way to go, I mean XP will be supported for years
down the line, at least until it becomes financially less viable to support.
I think Win2K is still officially supported, so I don't think you have much
to worry about.

Doesn't BF2.142k have a Linux client? There could be another option if you
want to venture into Linux territory, I think Dell supports Ubuntu now which
means Dell could probably tell you if your system has drivers for Linux.

"Zero" <Zero@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BAA187C0-FDEB-47ED-B929-42A6FB7B01B2@microsoft.com...
> How is it a Microsoft issue??????
>
> If you knew EA WAS NOT COMPATIBLE then why didn't you tell us before we
> bought your new OS? So yeah - I see it is a microsoft problem. The
> problem
> is they talked me into this new software and failed to tell me my favorite
> programs were not compatible with it.

Or why not blame EA for not patching the problem? I mean it's not like Vista
was some big secret that no one knew about. I'm sure Microsoft would bend
over backwards for any dev with a question or seeking aid.

Don't get me wrong, I love MS and EA equally, so don't accuse me of bagging
on one or supporting another.

-A. :)

First of all - let me apologize for my long rant. I am just pissed. If
something worked fine and with no glitches under the old OS then I fully
expect it to work that way inder the new one. I want the new stuff to be
backwards compatible and i do believe it was advertised that way. You are
correct though - I am not 100% sure it is Microsoft's fault but I cannot see
anyone else to blame. If you release somethign that is new and improved then
it should do all the same things the old one did with no issues.

But I will try and stay open minded...

"Dale White" wrote:
Battlefield 2142 was working and you were able to play it until your hands
went numb. You stop playing, for a week came back and it's broke.

So the fact that it worked and worked well for X number of weeks\months
doesn't tell you there isn't a compatibility problem ?"

Again - it worked good for a few weeks and then I left it alone for a week.
In that time frame the ONLY thing that happened was several auto updates from
Microsoft. Nothing else was loaded or changed. So why wouldn't I point my
finger at that? I instinctively tried to rollback the computer to before i
left to see if it would work again and (I promise) it keeps failing during
the rollback. I have tried it 3 times and refuse to waste anymore time
trying.


"Dale White" wrote:
Have you tried turning off the UAC and see how the game runs there ?
Have you tried logging in with the True Admin account and see if there is a
difference
have you tried logging in under a different user account, namely a different
profile ?

I haven't had the issue of the CD\DVD disc not working, but I've read other
people having issue with the different Anti-Piracy software and Vista's own
security fighting it out."

Yes and Yes and no help. The CD/DVD issue only happens when i try and run
the game in XP SP2 compatibility mode. If I am running it under plain Vista
Admin mode it does not occur.

Again - my problem is that I load the game fine and find a server fine. I go
to connect to the server and it gets halfway there and crashes. I get a
generic error as to why the crash happened and have no information on how to
proceed. Just a "we will look into it and get back to you".

So understand my frustration. I have done all the tricks and tried all that
I know to do and all I am getting is the ability to play Texas Hold 'em......
I am jaded and my windows experience is not so great now.

I have had numerous other glitches with stuff freezing up for no reason but
that is all expected. I know there are bugs that need to work out on the new
OS but this one thing erks me. It erks me because it worked fine and now it
doesn't. I try all these fixes and they don't help. I try to take my
computer back in time to before the updates and it won't let me go there so i
am stuck here typing on a BB instead of shooting people....... frustrating

I apreciate your time and help. If you have any ideas please let me know...

Have you tried loading the maps in Single player mode ? I'm going to assume
it's not any single map, but any map at all.

Does you're event log under program-Admin tools, show any errors or anything
that has a yellow or red flag ?

Obviously, it's possible that one of the updates is causing a problem. If
you run windows update, you can look at the last set of updates. Can you
post what the last 2-3 updates where ? There might be a tech article on it
and any problems caused.

I'm assuming you already tried the usual un-install and re-install the game
and patches ?

Note there is a 4 page thread on this in the EA forums, assuming this is the
same thing you are seeing. There is a fix posted that might work for you

http://forums.easports.com/mboards/t...rt=45&tstart=0

Dale:

The crash happens in online or single play mode and the map does not matter.

I tired the fix you provided on the EA board (IP MASKING) and it did not
work - same problem.

I have 2 critical errors recorded but neither are recent:
Kernel Power - 3 total
Driver frameworks user mode - 1 total

I have numerous regular errors but only 2 that have been recent. One of them
the source was blank (nothing listed) but the log shows it as "application".
It has happened 36 times total with 4 / 6/ 26 (hour/24 hour/7 days)

the other has a source of "application error" and log of "application". It
has happened 37 times total with 2/3/13. Note: I tried to start BF 2142 2
times today....

My list of recent updates are as follows:
>Defender
7/4 Definition 1.19.2731.4
6/29 definition 1.19.2728.3
6/27 definition 1.19.2726.3

>Media center
6/30 Cumulitive Update KB935652

>.NET Framework
6/27 3.0 x86

> Windows Vista
6/27 KB931836

That is all I have. I hope it helps....

Hi, I am having the same problem as zero except mine won't even start. I
have reinstalled a few times and my windows vista 32bit laptop is fresh out
of box today so I know it isn't the computer's fault. I am not going to
blame vista right away, however, I fear greatly that the games I ordered (The
Guild 2/The Guild 2 expansion) will not work either. Now I understand some
people have gotten this game to work with vista, however, I haven't even seen
the intro video even after I installed all the EA updates with makes me want
to blame microsoft and their new updates.. I am glad to hear I am not the
only having this problem, and I understand I am on a microsoft fan boy site,
but I just want someone to help me out so I can get my money's worth.

>>and I understand I am on a microsoft fan boy site, but I just want
>>someone to help me out so I can get my >>money's worth.

Just so you know, this isn't a Microsoft Fanboy site. It's actually a web
interface to the Microsoft Vista newsgroups, which has some MVPs around and
has a bunch of regular joes around to help with problems. There are some
pro-Vista people here and some not so pro-Vista people here. Like me, I have
Vista installed for tinkering and playing around with, but overall, I still
use XP for everything

Well,
I guess i am going to just go back to XP Pro. Too bad - this whole deal
reminds me of the Me OS experience. I am on a Microsoft board and i cannot
get my problem solved. I have done all the fixes suggested by EA and all the
tricks offered here to make Vista compatible but it seems that the problem is
compatibility and while I can fault EA some I still blame Microsoft. You
should release an OS with backwards compatibility. Assuming all software
manufacturers will instantly bow to your new standards is BS and once again I
am dissapointed. I don't know how all this stuff works in the coding or
anything else but what I do know is - everytime I upgrade to your new OS all
I get to hear is how everyone else is to blame for the problems.........
Sooner or later you need to take some blame for knowing the problems will be
there and doing nothing to prevent them.

To be fair I don't think we can expect backwards compatibility in every
case since that would prevent the latest technology developing in some
cases, however it is equally unfair to sell the product without some
serious warnings about compatibility.

A-men brother. I couldn't have said it better myself. I just bought a new
Dell notebook. I had the option to have XP installed instead of Vista. Wish
I'd have known that Vista was so crappy for gaming a month ago.

Hi Dale,

Thanks for trying to be supportive and offer suggestions. Unfortunately,
I've tried all your ideas, I've updated drivers, downloaded hotfixes, and
even spent a couple hours on the phone with some really helpful and nice
techs at EA Support. There is simply no solution.

After playing one map in multiplayer, when the next map loads the game
crashes. Other things I've tried are running the game in a window, and only
letting one processor run the game. EA support in the end told me that they
couldn't guarantee that the game will work under Vista.

So, for now I'll just play one map at a time and have to reboot the game at
the end of each round, just like lots of other folks do. There's really no
point in getting pissed off about it, since there's really nothing any of us
can do but hope that Battlefield 3 will destroy the Vista Titan and work
properly.

If the game box has Vista listed as a "Supported" operating system, call the
EA warranty help line and ask for a refund. If the game doesn't work, but
it's supported with your system, just return it.

You already went through toubleshooting with EA support, so if they can't
get it working it's not really your fault.