External Drives DON"T WORK WITH VISTA

I have a 3 year old Maxtor external usb drive, a 5 year old Nikon slide
scanner connected via firewire and a Canon flatbed and all have been working
perfectly with my upgrade to Vista from XP Home.
Hell, I had more problems getting ITunes to work with Vista than anything
else!


"Statue" <Statue@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9C63C17C-7696-4EB2-B180-AA207DD52303@microsoft.com...
> Hello Ya'all:
>
> Here's my two cents on this: There's two main components on a USB drive --
> the drive itself, and the USB (or firewire) to PATA (or SATA) bridge. The
> problem, as far as I can tell, is previously, like in XP, the bridge and
> drive never needed a driver from the device manufacturer -- XP had a
> built-in
> driver for the bridge as well as the drive. What now looks like is
> happening
> is they have a built-in driver for the bridge, but do not have drivers for
> the drives. I have a Nexstar USB to PATA drive chassis. When I put a
> Seagate
> drive in it, it works. When I put a Maxtor, it doesn't. My best guess is
> whoever was alpha testing this at Microsoft didn't have every combination
> of
> drive and bridge to test, so only what was on-hand was tested, and since
> that
> seemed to work, that's what was released.
>
> On a similar subject is a huge oversight on the part of USB memory keys.
> Originally, we heard rumors of even more advanced support for memory
> keys --
> according to Microsoft's WHQL list -- memory keys are NOT supported. In
> fact,
> I have a Lexar Jumpdrive -- the most common memory key ever made --
> doesn't
> work and not supported.
>
> When the driver installs the bridge driver, that goes oK, but when it gets
> to the "drive" portion of the driver, if you go to the driver details --
> it
> says "Could not start driver -- invalid switch".
>
> I sent in an e-mail to Microsoft's support (90-days by the way on Vista),
> and have had no response other than an automated acknowledgement that the
> message was received.
>
> I also contacted Lexar on the USB memory key issue, and they were
> completely
> caught off guard.
>
> If you think drive problems are a problem -- they are just the top of the
> iceburg. Try connecting to a Mac network, or printing over an ethernet
> print
> server -- on the Mac network, you end up logging into yourself, and most
> ethernet print servers don't work - in fact, funny as it seems, when Vista
> first went beta, the HP Laserjet 4si wasn't even in the device list as a
> local printer.
>
> Lance
>
>
> "abc@shaw.ca" wrote:
>
>> Hey ,
>>
>> Does anyone know if there is a soloution to make an external drive work
>> with
>> windows vista
>>
>> let me know please
>>
>>
>>

On Feb 18, 4:56 pm, Statue <Sta...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> Hello Ya'all:
>
> Here's my two cents on this: There's two main components on a USBdrive--
> thedriveitself, and the USB (or firewire) to PATA (or SATA) bridge. The
> problem, as far as I can tell, is previously, like in XP, the bridge anddrivenever needed a driver from the device manufacturer -- XP had a built-in
> driver for the bridge as well as thedrive. What now looks like is happening
> is they have a built-in driver for the bridge, but do not have drivers for
> the drives. I have a Nexstar USB to PATAdrivechassis. When I put a Seagatedrivein it, it works. When I put a Maxtor, it doesn't. My best guess is
> whoever was alpha testing this at Microsoft didn't have every combination ofdriveand bridge to test, so only what was on-hand was tested, and since that
> seemed to work, that's what was released.
>
> On a similar subject is a huge oversight on the part of USB memory keys.
> Originally, we heard rumors of even more advanced support for memory keys --
> according to Microsoft's WHQL list -- memory keys are NOT supported. In fact,
> I have a Lexar Jumpdrive -- the most common memory key ever made -- doesn't
> work and not supported.
>
> When the driver installs the bridge driver, that goes oK, but when it gets
> to the "drive" portion of the driver, if you go to the driver details -- it
> says "Could not start driver -- invalid switch".
>
> I sent in an e-mail to Microsoft's support (90-days by the way on Vista),
> and have had no response other than an automated acknowledgement that the
> message was received.
>
> I also contacted Lexar on the USB memory key issue, and they were completely
> caught off guard.
>
> If you thinkdriveproblems are a problem -- they are just the top of the
> iceburg. Try connecting to a Mac network, or printing over an ethernet print
> server -- on the Mac network, you end up logging into yourself, and most
> ethernet print servers don't work - in fact, funny as it seems, when Vista
> first went beta, the HP Laserjet 4si wasn't even in the device list as a
> local printer.
>
> Lance
>
>
>
> "a...@shaw.ca" wrote:
> > Hey ,
>
> > Does anyone know if there is a soloution to make anexternaldrivework with
> > windows vista
>
> > let me know please- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I cannot use a 3 year old Maxtor External Drive or Lexar Jump Drive
either - Any solutions?

"Jackbliss" <jfreeman@freemanfrazier.com> wrote in message
news:1172015997.963083.137970@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 18, 4:56 pm, Statue <Sta...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> Hello Ya'all:
>>
>> Here's my two cents on this: There's two main components on a USBdrive--
>> thedriveitself, and the USB (or firewire) to PATA (or SATA) bridge. The
>> problem, as far as I can tell, is previously, like in XP, the bridge
>> anddrivenever needed a driver from the device manufacturer -- XP had a
>> built-in
>> driver for the bridge as well as thedrive. What now looks like is happening
>> is they have a built-in driver for the bridge, but do not have drivers for
>> the drives. I have a Nexstar USB to PATAdrivechassis. When I put a
>> Seagatedrivein it, it works. When I put a Maxtor, it doesn't. My best guess
>> is
>> whoever was alpha testing this at Microsoft didn't have every combination
>> ofdriveand bridge to test, so only what was on-hand was tested, and since
>> that
>> seemed to work, that's what was released.
>>
>> On a similar subject is a huge oversight on the part of USB memory keys.
>> Originally, we heard rumors of even more advanced support for memory
>> keys --
>> according to Microsoft's WHQL list -- memory keys are NOT supported. In
>> fact,
>> I have a Lexar Jumpdrive -- the most common memory key ever made -- doesn't
>> work and not supported.
>>
>> When the driver installs the bridge driver, that goes oK, but when it gets
>> to the "drive" portion of the driver, if you go to the driver details -- it
>> says "Could not start driver -- invalid switch".
>>
>> I sent in an e-mail to Microsoft's support (90-days by the way on Vista),
>> and have had no response other than an automated acknowledgement that the
>> message was received.
>>
>> I also contacted Lexar on the USB memory key issue, and they were
>> completely
>> caught off guard.
>>
>> If you thinkdriveproblems are a problem -- they are just the top of the
>> iceburg. Try connecting to a Mac network, or printing over an ethernet
>> print
>> server -- on the Mac network, you end up logging into yourself, and most
>> ethernet print servers don't work - in fact, funny as it seems, when Vista
>> first went beta, the HP Laserjet 4si wasn't even in the device list as a
>> local printer.
>>
>> Lance
>>
>>
>>
>> "a...@shaw.ca" wrote:
>> > Hey ,
>>
>> > Does anyone know if there is a soloution to make anexternaldrivework with
>> > windows vista
>>
>> > let me know please- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> I cannot use a 3 year old Maxtor External Drive or Lexar Jump Drive
> either - Any solutions?
>

Obtain one which does?
But it's a plain fact that Windows cannot, nor has it ever been able to, and
probably won't ever be able to, boot from an external drive of ANY kind.

Unless of course, Microsoft gets on the ball, and starts building it into
their OSes.

Considering that most newer motherboards will boot from almost any external
device, it's about time that Microsoft added it to their OSes.

--
Donald L McDaniel
Please reply to the original newsgroup and thread.
------------------------------------------------------

"Jackbliss" <jfreeman@freemanfrazier.com> wrote in message
news:1172015997.963083.137970@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 18, 4:56 pm, Statue <Sta...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> Hello Ya'all:
>>
>> Here's my two cents on this: There's two main components on a USBdrive--
>> thedriveitself, and the USB (or firewire) to PATA (or SATA) bridge. The
>> problem, as far as I can tell, is previously, like in XP, the bridge
>> anddrivenever needed a driver from the device manufacturer -- XP had a
>> built-in
>> driver for the bridge as well as thedrive. What now looks like is
>> happening
>> is they have a built-in driver for the bridge, but do not have drivers
>> for
>> the drives. I have a Nexstar USB to PATAdrivechassis. When I put a
>> Seagatedrivein it, it works. When I put a Maxtor, it doesn't. My best
>> guess is
>> whoever was alpha testing this at Microsoft didn't have every combination
>> ofdriveand bridge to test, so only what was on-hand was tested, and since
>> that
>> seemed to work, that's what was released.
>>
>> On a similar subject is a huge oversight on the part of USB memory keys.
>> Originally, we heard rumors of even more advanced support for memory
>> keys --
>> according to Microsoft's WHQL list -- memory keys are NOT supported. In
>> fact,
>> I have a Lexar Jumpdrive -- the most common memory key ever made --
>> doesn't
>> work and not supported.
>>
>> When the driver installs the bridge driver, that goes oK, but when it
>> gets
>> to the "drive" portion of the driver, if you go to the driver details --
>> it
>> says "Could not start driver -- invalid switch".
>>
>> I sent in an e-mail to Microsoft's support (90-days by the way on Vista),
>> and have had no response other than an automated acknowledgement that the
>> message was received.
>>
>> I also contacted Lexar on the USB memory key issue, and they were
>> completely
>> caught off guard.
>>
>> If you thinkdriveproblems are a problem -- they are just the top of the
>> iceburg. Try connecting to a Mac network, or printing over an ethernet
>> print
>> server -- on the Mac network, you end up logging into yourself, and most
>> ethernet print servers don't work - in fact, funny as it seems, when
>> Vista
>> first went beta, the HP Laserjet 4si wasn't even in the device list as a
>> local printer.
>>
>> Lance
>>
>>
>>
>> "a...@shaw.ca" wrote:
>> > Hey ,
>>
>> > Does anyone know if there is a soloution to make anexternaldrivework
>> > with
>> > windows vista
>>
>> > let me know please- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> I cannot use a 3 year old Maxtor External Drive or Lexar Jump Drive
> either - Any solutions?
>


Are you sure about usb keys? I installed my raid drivers via some el cheapo
usb key, when I put vista on this machine. Worked like a charm.

I have an external USB drive and it works flawlessly. No issues at all. Just
plug and play.

I just wonder if people are asking VISTA to do everything, including washing
the dishes.

Dan

On Feb 20, 7:41 pm, "Donald McDaniel" <orthocr...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
> "Jackbliss" <jfree...@freemanfrazier.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1172015997.963083.137970@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 18, 4:56 pm, Statue <Sta...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >> Hello Ya'all:
>
> >> Here's my two cents on this: There's two main components on a USBdrive--
> >> thedriveitself, and the USB (or firewire) to PATA (or SATA) bridge. The
> >> problem, as far as I can tell, is previously, like in XP, the bridge
> >> anddrivenever needed a driver from the device manufacturer -- XP had a
> >> built-in
> >> driver for the bridge as well as thedrive. What now looks like is happening
> >> is they have a built-in driver for the bridge, but do not have drivers for
> >> the drives. I have a Nexstar USB to PATAdrivechassis. When I put a
> >> Seagatedrivein it, it works. When I put aMaxtor, it doesn't. My best guess
> >> is
> >> whoever was alpha testing this at Microsoft didn't have every combination
> >> ofdriveand bridge to test, so only what was on-hand was tested, and since
> >> that
> >> seemed to work, that's what was released.
>
> >> On a similar subject is a huge oversight on the part of USB memory keys.
> >> Originally, we heard rumors of even more advanced support for memory
> >> keys --
> >> according to Microsoft's WHQL list -- memory keys are NOT supported. In
> >> fact,
> >> I have a Lexar Jumpdrive -- the most common memory key ever made -- doesn't
> >> work and not supported.
>
> >> When the driver installs the bridge driver, that goes oK, but when it gets
> >> to the "drive" portion of the driver, if you go to the driver details -- it
> >> says "Could not start driver -- invalid switch".
>
> >> I sent in an e-mail to Microsoft's support (90-days by the way on Vista),
> >> and have had no response other than an automated acknowledgement that the
> >> message was received.
>
> >> I also contacted Lexar on the USB memory key issue, and they were
> >> completely
> >> caught off guard.
>
> >> If you thinkdriveproblems are a problem -- they are just the top of the
> >> iceburg. Try connecting to a Mac network, or printing over an ethernet
> >> print
> >> server -- on the Mac network, you end up logging into yourself, and most
> >> ethernet print servers don't work - in fact, funny as it seems, when Vista
> >> first went beta, the HP Laserjet 4si wasn't even in the device list as a
> >> local printer.
>
> >> Lance
>
> >> "a...@shaw.ca" wrote:
> >> > Hey ,
>
> >> > Does anyone know if there is a soloution to make anexternaldrivework with
> >> > windows vista
>
> >> > let me know please- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > I cannot use a 3 year oldMaxtorExternal Drive or Lexar Jump Drive
> > either - Any solutions?
>
> Obtain one which does?
> But it's a plain fact that Windows cannot, nor has it ever been able to, and
> probably won't ever be able to, boot from an external drive of ANY kind.
>
> Unless of course, Microsoft gets on the ball, and starts building it into
> their OSes.
>
> Considering that most newer motherboards will boot from almost any external
> device, it's about time that Microsoft added it to their OSes.
>
> --
> Donald L McDaniel
> Please reply to the original newsgroup and thread.
> ------------------------------------------------------- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Not interested in booting from drive just using drive. Maxtor Drive
(firewire) is not recognized and when connected Vista will take 1/2hr
to close or retart. Jump drive (US) is also not recognized.

"Jackbliss" <jfreeman@freemanfrazier.com> wrote in message
news:1172015997.963083.137970@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 18, 4:56 pm, Statue <Sta...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> Hello Ya'all:
>>
>> Here's my two cents on this: There's two main components on a
>> USBdrive--
>> thedriveitself, and the USB (or firewire) to PATA (or SATA) bridge.
>> The
>> problem, as far as I can tell, is previously, like in XP, the bridge
>> anddrivenever needed a driver from the device manufacturer -- XP had
>> a built-in
>> driver for the bridge as well as thedrive. What now looks like is
>> happening
>> is they have a built-in driver for the bridge, but do not have
>> drivers for
>> the drives. I have a Nexstar USB to PATAdrivechassis. When I put a
>> Seagatedrivein it, it works. When I put a Maxtor, it doesn't. My best
>> guess is
>> whoever was alpha testing this at Microsoft didn't have every
>> combination ofdriveand bridge to test, so only what was on-hand was
>> tested, and since that
>> seemed to work, that's what was released.
>>
>> On a similar subject is a huge oversight on the part of USB memory
>> keys.
>> Originally, we heard rumors of even more advanced support for memory
>> keys --
>> according to Microsoft's WHQL list -- memory keys are NOT supported.
>> In fact,
>> I have a Lexar Jumpdrive -- the most common memory key ever made --
>> doesn't
>> work and not supported.
>>
>> When the driver installs the bridge driver, that goes oK, but when it
>> gets
>> to the "drive" portion of the driver, if you go to the driver
>> details -- it
>> says "Could not start driver -- invalid switch".
>>
>> I sent in an e-mail to Microsoft's support (90-days by the way on
>> Vista),
>> and have had no response other than an automated acknowledgement that
>> the
>> message was received.
>>
>> I also contacted Lexar on the USB memory key issue, and they were
>> completely
>> caught off guard.
>>
>> If you thinkdriveproblems are a problem -- they are just the top of
>> the
>> iceburg. Try connecting to a Mac network, or printing over an
>> ethernet print
>> server -- on the Mac network, you end up logging into yourself, and
>> most
>> ethernet print servers don't work - in fact, funny as it seems, when
>> Vista
>> first went beta, the HP Laserjet 4si wasn't even in the device list
>> as a
>> local printer.
>>
>> Lance
>>
>>
>>
>> "a...@shaw.ca" wrote:
>> > Hey ,
>>
>> > Does anyone know if there is a soloution to make
>> > anexternaldrivework with
>> > windows vista
>>
>> > let me know please- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> I cannot use a 3 year old Maxtor External Drive or Lexar Jump Drive
> either - Any solutions?

Two suggestions:

1, MS has released a number of patches for Vista, including at least one
that has to do with USB support. If you haven't already, make sure
Vista is up to date on Windows Update.

2, Since not everyone is having the problem, it could be a motherboard
chipset driver problem. You might want to check with the manufacturer
to see if they have updated chipset drivers for Vista.

Best Regards,

Dave

"Jackbliss" <jfreeman@freemanfrazier.com> wrote in message
news:1172061199.965754.185710@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 20, 7:41 pm, "Donald McDaniel" <orthocr...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>> "Jackbliss" <jfree...@freemanfrazier.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1172015997.963083.137970@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Feb 18, 4:56 pm, Statue <Sta...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> >> Hello Ya'all:
>>
>> >> Here's my two cents on this: There's two main components on a USBdrive--
>> >> thedriveitself, and the USB (or firewire) to PATA (or SATA) bridge. The
>> >> problem, as far as I can tell, is previously, like in XP, the bridge
>> >> anddrivenever needed a driver from the device manufacturer -- XP had a
>> >> built-in
>> >> driver for the bridge as well as thedrive. What now looks like is
>> >> happening
>> >> is they have a built-in driver for the bridge, but do not have drivers
>> >> for
>> >> the drives. I have a Nexstar USB to PATAdrivechassis. When I put a
>> >> Seagatedrivein it, it works. When I put aMaxtor, it doesn't. My best
>> >> guess
>> >> is
>> >> whoever was alpha testing this at Microsoft didn't have every
>> >> combination
>> >> ofdriveand bridge to test, so only what was on-hand was tested, and
>> >> since
>> >> that
>> >> seemed to work, that's what was released.
>>
>> >> On a similar subject is a huge oversight on the part of USB memory keys.
>> >> Originally, we heard rumors of even more advanced support for memory
>> >> keys --
>> >> according to Microsoft's WHQL list -- memory keys are NOT supported. In
>> >> fact,
>> >> I have a Lexar Jumpdrive -- the most common memory key ever made --
>> >> doesn't
>> >> work and not supported.
>>
>> >> When the driver installs the bridge driver, that goes oK, but when it
>> >> gets
>> >> to the "drive" portion of the driver, if you go to the driver details --
>> >> it
>> >> says "Could not start driver -- invalid switch".
>>
>> >> I sent in an e-mail to Microsoft's support (90-days by the way on
>> >> Vista),
>> >> and have had no response other than an automated acknowledgement that
>> >> the
>> >> message was received.
>>
>> >> I also contacted Lexar on the USB memory key issue, and they were
>> >> completely
>> >> caught off guard.
>>
>> >> If you thinkdriveproblems are a problem -- they are just the top of the
>> >> iceburg. Try connecting to a Mac network, or printing over an ethernet
>> >> print
>> >> server -- on the Mac network, you end up logging into yourself, and most
>> >> ethernet print servers don't work - in fact, funny as it seems, when
>> >> Vista
>> >> first went beta, the HP Laserjet 4si wasn't even in the device list as a
>> >> local printer.
>>
>> >> Lance
>>
>> >> "a...@shaw.ca" wrote:
>> >> > Hey ,
>>
>> >> > Does anyone know if there is a soloution to make anexternaldrivework
>> >> > with
>> >> > windows vista
>>
>> >> > let me know please- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> >> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> > I cannot use a 3 year oldMaxtorExternal Drive or Lexar Jump Drive
>> > either - Any solutions?
>>
>> Obtain one which does?
>> But it's a plain fact that Windows cannot, nor has it ever been able to,
>> and
>> probably won't ever be able to, boot from an external drive of ANY kind.
>>
>> Unless of course, Microsoft gets on the ball, and starts building it into
>> their OSes.
>>
>> Considering that most newer motherboards will boot from almost any external
>> device, it's about time that Microsoft added it to their OSes.
>>
>> --
>> Donald L McDaniel
>> Please reply to the original newsgroup and thread.
>> ------------------------------------------------------- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Not interested in booting from drive just using drive. Maxtor Drive
> (firewire) is not recognized and when connected Vista will take 1/2hr
> to close or retart. Jump drive (US) is also not recognized.
>

1) Have you installed a Vista-compatible IEEE 1394 Bus Host controller driver
for your Firewire controller? "no drivee, no workee"
2) Have you installed USB2.0?
3) Have you enabled USB 2.0 in your BIOS?
4) Have you installed latest BIOS updates for your machine?
5) Have you installed ALL latest Vista-compatible device drivers?
6) Have you checked to see if Firewire must be enabled in your BIOS?
7) Have you made sure that your Firewire drive is formatted either as FAT32,
or as NTFS? Otherwise, Vista will not recognize it.

When you have done those 7 things, come back, and I will revisit your issue.

Also, please include a listing of your devices, motherboard, memory amount
and type, and especially, your Maxtor Drive Firewire model, as well as your
USB thumb-drive maker and model.

--
Donald L McDaniel
Please reply to the original newsgroup and thread.
------------------------------------------------------

im having the same problem, one WD external works fine with vista, then i go
to use my new one (formatted it using xp etc_) went to use on laptop with
vista and it wont pick it up >< i mean surely something natively supported by
xp would be natively supported by vista as well. Unless im doing something
wrong....lol...but my usb mouse and other external etc etc was all picked up
fine.

I plug my hdd in and it comes up installing drivers, then says windows needs
to install software for your USB to ATA/ATAPI bridge, then i click locate and
and install automatically, then it just goes into USB to ATA/ATAPI bridge
driver failed. i have googled the driver with out luck. i do not have a
driver cd. the brand is NEXT with a standard 500gig seagate drive in it... is
this something that ive done wrong??
>
>

Donald, you seem knowledgeable.
I have a 1-year old HP Slimline running Vista Home Premium
(factory/reseller- installed). Until recently, I had no problems with any
type of external drive. A 3-year old Accomodate external HD (USB), a Canon
Pixma photo printer (USB), a Seagate external HD (Firewire), and numerous
manufacturers of external flash drives all worked flawlessly as plug 'n play.
Suddenly, all my computer will read are the native internal drives - it won't
even read my removable HP Pocket Media Drive. My Microsoft Wireless Keyboard
and Mouse bagged first. I replaced with wired versions, and they work fine
through the PS2 ports. Once I regained control, I realized nothing else was
there. I have reinstalled my Canon printer driver (latest one), and
uninstalled and reinstalled my USB drivers multiple times (the computer says
they are working properly). It won't even read my flash memory cards from the
built-in slots. All of this happened before I installed Service Pack 1. The
only software I installed around the time of the error was a Linksys router
signal extender, but that was a pass through install to my wireless router,
and doesn't show up in my programs. I tried going back to a restore point
before this install to no avail.

I have checked for new versions on my PCI to USB Host Controller, my Open
USB Host Controller and my IEEE 1394 Host Controller (AGERE OHCI Compliant
1394 Host Controller), and all say they are up-to-date.

My computer specs are as follows:

HP Slimline 3020n
AMD 64 X 2 Dual Core
Device 1 (USB) Canon PIXMA IP 1600 Photo Printer
Device 2 (Firewire 400) Seagate 750 GB external HD
Numerous and assorted flash drives

I wouldreally appreciate a fix: I can't transfer fiiles, print, or access my
iTunes collection.




"Donald McDaniel" wrote:

> "Jackbliss" <jfreeman@freemanfrazier.com> wrote in message
> news:1172061199.965754.185710@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> > On Feb 20, 7:41 pm, "Donald McDaniel" <orthocr...@invalid.invalid>
> > wrote:
> >> "Jackbliss" <jfree...@freemanfrazier.com> wrote in message
> >>
> >> news:1172015997.963083.137970@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > On Feb 18, 4:56 pm, Statue <Sta...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >> >> Hello Ya'all:
> >>
> >> >> Here's my two cents on this: There's two main components on a USBdrive--
> >> >> thedriveitself, and the USB (or firewire) to PATA (or SATA) bridge. The
> >> >> problem, as far as I can tell, is previously, like in XP, the bridge
> >> >> anddrivenever needed a driver from the device manufacturer -- XP had a
> >> >> built-in
> >> >> driver for the bridge as well as thedrive. What now looks like is
> >> >> happening
> >> >> is they have a built-in driver for the bridge, but do not have drivers
> >> >> for
> >> >> the drives. I have a Nexstar USB to PATAdrivechassis. When I put a
> >> >> Seagatedrivein it, it works. When I put aMaxtor, it doesn't. My best
> >> >> guess
> >> >> is
> >> >> whoever was alpha testing this at Microsoft didn't have every
> >> >> combination
> >> >> ofdriveand bridge to test, so only what was on-hand was tested, and
> >> >> since
> >> >> that
> >> >> seemed to work, that's what was released.
> >>
> >> >> On a similar subject is a huge oversight on the part of USB memory keys.
> >> >> Originally, we heard rumors of even more advanced support for memory
> >> >> keys --
> >> >> according to Microsoft's WHQL list -- memory keys are NOT supported. In
> >> >> fact,
> >> >> I have a Lexar Jumpdrive -- the most common memory key ever made --
> >> >> doesn't
> >> >> work and not supported.
> >>
> >> >> When the driver installs the bridge driver, that goes oK, but when it
> >> >> gets
> >> >> to the "drive" portion of the driver, if you go to the driver details --
> >> >> it
> >> >> says "Could not start driver -- invalid switch".
> >>
> >> >> I sent in an e-mail to Microsoft's support (90-days by the way on
> >> >> Vista),
> >> >> and have had no response other than an automated acknowledgement that
> >> >> the
> >> >> message was received.
> >>
> >> >> I also contacted Lexar on the USB memory key issue, and they were
> >> >> completely
> >> >> caught off guard.
> >>
> >> >> If you thinkdriveproblems are a problem -- they are just the top of the
> >> >> iceburg. Try connecting to a Mac network, or printing over an ethernet
> >> >> print
> >> >> server -- on the Mac network, you end up logging into yourself, and most
> >> >> ethernet print servers don't work - in fact, funny as it seems, when
> >> >> Vista
> >> >> first went beta, the HP Laserjet 4si wasn't even in the device list as a
> >> >> local printer.
> >>
> >> >> Lance
> >>
> >> >> "a...@shaw.ca" wrote:
> >> >> > Hey ,
> >>
> >> >> > Does anyone know if there is a soloution to make anexternaldrivework
> >> >> > with
> >> >> > windows vista
> >>
> >> >> > let me know please- Hide quoted text -
> >>
> >> >> - Show quoted text -
> >>
> >> > I cannot use a 3 year oldMaxtorExternal Drive or Lexar Jump Drive
> >> > either - Any solutions?
> >>
> >> Obtain one which does?
> >> But it's a plain fact that Windows cannot, nor has it ever been able to,
> >> and
> >> probably won't ever be able to, boot from an external drive of ANY kind.
> >>
> >> Unless of course, Microsoft gets on the ball, and starts building it into
> >> their OSes.
> >>
> >> Considering that most newer motherboards will boot from almost any external
> >> device, it's about time that Microsoft added it to their OSes.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Donald L McDaniel
> >> Please reply to the original newsgroup and thread.
> >> ------------------------------------------------------- Hide quoted text -
> >>
> >> - Show quoted text -
> >
> > Not interested in booting from drive just using drive. Maxtor Drive
> > (firewire) is not recognized and when connected Vista will take 1/2hr
> > to close or retart. Jump drive (US) is also not recognized.
> >
>
> 1) Have you installed a Vista-compatible IEEE 1394 Bus Host controller driver
> for your Firewire controller? "no drivee, no workee"
> 2) Have you installed USB2.0?
> 3) Have you enabled USB 2.0 in your BIOS?
> 4) Have you installed latest BIOS updates for your machine?
> 5) Have you installed ALL latest Vista-compatible device drivers?
> 6) Have you checked to see if Firewire must be enabled in your BIOS?
> 7) Have you made sure that your Firewire drive is formatted either as FAT32,
> or as NTFS? Otherwise, Vista will not recognize it.
>
> When you have done those 7 things, come back, and I will revisit your issue.
>
> Also, please include a listing of your devices, motherboard, memory amount
> and type, and especially, your Maxtor Drive Firewire model, as well as your
> USB thumb-drive maker and model.
>
> --
> Donald L McDaniel
> Please reply to the original newsgroup and thread.
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
>

i have a simular problem just bought a new caddy that says it is vista
compatable it is a sumvision egem vista x64 wont install drivers for it


--
sandfacer

What drivers are you trying to install? I shouldn't think it would need
any. Have looked for the drive in Drive Manager? What do you see there?
Have you assigned a drive letter? How does it connect to your computer,
usb? firewire? eSATA?

"sandfacer" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:382ec47aca800482f2f53218c2794e9a@nntp-gateway.com...
>
> i have a simular problem just bought a new caddy that says it is vista
> compatable it is a sumvision egem vista x64 wont install drivers for it
>
>
> --
> sandfacer

Colin Barnhorst;737798 Wrote:
> What drivers are you trying to install? I shouldn't think it would need
> any. Have looked for the drive in Drive Manager? What do you see
> there?
> Have you assigned a drive letter? How does it connect to your
> computer,
> usb? firewire? eSATA?
>
> "sandfacer" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
> news:382ec47aca800482f2f53218c2794e9a@xxxxxx-gateway.com...> > >
> > >
> > > i have a simular problem just bought a new caddy that says it is
> > vista
> > > compatable it is a sumvision egem vista x64 wont install drivers for
> > it
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > sandfacer > >
the drive works fine on 32bit vista just not ultimate64
it searches and fails to find a usb to serial-ata driver doesent show
up in drive manager at all
so it is a usb driver
cant help feeling let down badly by vista over this


--
sandfacer

On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 11:55:28 -0500, sandfacer <guest@unknown-email.com>
wrote:

>
>i have a simular problem just bought a new caddy that says it is vista
>compatable it is a sumvision egem vista x64 wont install drivers for it


And WHY won't Vista x64 install drivers for it?

Hmmmm.

Try this explanation:
Microsoft doesn't provide drivers for third-party hardware. To get
the drivers, you need to go to the manufacturer's website and download
them.

If there are no Vista x64 drivers on their site, you are going to be
S.O.L. (and then spend the next 5 years blaming Microsoft for the
OEM's failure to provide an x64 driver for your caddy.)

You might also try posting to
"microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware", which is specifically for
hardware issues.


Donald L McDaniel

We do not ask Vista(TM) to do everything just the minimum any businessman
would need from a $200.00 OS we are forced to deal with because there are no
longer any XP OS systems to be bought anymore. To that end Microsoft could at
least provide a generic USB to ATA/ATAPI driver so that perhaps some newer
model external drives which state they are Vista(TM) compatable would have
more than a hockey player's chance to score a goal in hell.