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  #16  
Old 29-10-2009
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Re: Please help ntldr is missing

Another problem that I have on almost EVERY DVD. Grab yourself some toilet
paper, and wipe all the fingerprints off the DVD. It'll load much faster also.
use a light bulb at an angle to the DVD to see if you removed all the dust,
dirt, thumb prints, grease etc...

Then reboot.
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  #17  
Old 29-10-2009
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Re: Please help ntldr is missing

also you said your booting from the HD, but your bios disagrees. it says the
main is a HD. Go to boot like I said and set the DVD as the MAIN Boot drive.
Install your OS and when you're done, set the BOOT MAIN back to the C:\windows
on the HD.
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Old 30-10-2009
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Will do,as soon as i get home. A question tho,does that explain the winload.exe error message? or will this bypass it and just install vista in a new partition?

i tried cleaning the install DVD,and i get the same result.
If there is any step(that i missed in the video) any of you would like me to follow,please let me know.
I'll try downloading the memtest86 tomorrow at my job(i don't have a burner on my mini laptop)
By the way,i also tried installing XP,and it failled as well

this time i restarted the computer pressing F12 several times,this is the message i got:

yukon pxe v5.0.4.3 (20060307)
(c) COPYRIGHT.......
pre-boot execution environment (pxe) v2.1
(c)copyright...intel copr....
pxe-e61:media test failure,check cable
pxe-m0f:exiting pxe rom
operating system not found

Does this mean anything to anybody?

Error message "winload.exe" the DVD doesn't have a single scratch. Thru some reading i found out that some people advise to just get a new HDD assuming that the old one is dead,but i'm not sure mine is dead cause i've able to store files in it as a usb drive,but i guess i dont really know much about how an HDD operates

Is it possible to install Vista in this hard drive using an enclosure kit and another vista computer?

By memory modules,do you mean the rams?

ok guys,i'm starting to think that i just can't format this disc the right way. I'm getting error messages as if the bios was looking for some missing files that are supposed to be existing. I removed one of the RAM bars(a 512MB) and tried the install procedure,and the new error message i'm getting is:

windows\system32\ntkrnlpa.exe
status: 0xc0000098
and when i press "enter" at that screen it sends me the the windows setup [EMS enabled]...window that give me the option of pushing F8 and when i do,it sends me to the advanced boot options windows with options:safe mode,safe mode with netw...,safe mode with cmd p...,enable boot logging.....start normally
Seriously,what am i doing wrong here?how do i properly format a disc,i feel real real stupid right now

just as a quick question,what are the typical hardwares which will cause an install to fail. I keep getting this message about a possible new hardware or driver could be the problem and it asks me to contact the manufacturer

Problem Solved

I disconnected the network card(realtek....) and restarted with the vista dvd,and bingo,it worked. I guess the hardware change was probably talking about that little devil device.
I don't know how to thank you guys for the help,and time you spentto help me. I had almost given up until you guys started guiding me,and that really motivated to do something so i don't waist your time.
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  #19  
Old 30-10-2009
Gene E. Bloch
 
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Re: Please help ntldr is missing

No, you are already set up to boot from the DVD. It just looks funny on the
screen, because of the highlighting; at first it fooled me too, so I went
back & looked.
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  #20  
Old 30-10-2009
Gene E. Bloch
 
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Re: Please help ntldr is missing

The video is good enough, don't apologize :-)

The [WinXP/Vista] label merely says the plug&play in the BIOS is compatible
with those two OSes, not that you ever had XP installed. It has nothing to
do with what's actually *in* in the computer, and it is not to worry about.

Since you do have the CD as the first boot device, it is acting like the
CD's boot sector is also be messed up. Or else the CD is trying to boot
from the HD, but I don't expect or understand that...

If nothing else helps, maybe your dog can fix it (just kidding!).

Oh yeah - I wouldn't use toilet paper on the CD, I'd use microfiber cloth.
Or get or borrow a new CD...
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  #21  
Old 30-10-2009
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Re: Please help ntldr is missing

I watched and took shots of your OS. The long 'loading' points to a dirtyCD.
Taking extra time to read that particular file over and over again, and
eventually giving up with the corrupted error. This problem can also occur
AFTER the installation. setup disks sometimes just copy verbatim what's on the
CD, errors and all. I had a program ALWAYS fail at the same place. I had a
thumb print on the CD. It wrote a bad sector to the HD.
Cleaned the CD, removed the program and reinstalled, and it worked.
The odds that you have a bad CD compared to all the working ones is miniscule.
And not a reason to get a new drive, unless you know something about thatdrive
we don't.

As for using toilet paper to clean a CD, I've been using it for eyeglasses and
CD's for years. DRY TP, not wet. You can wet what you're cleaning. But a single
ply of TP won't clean much moisture. It works just fine. And much cheaperthan
high cost TP with a fancy name. Actually I use single ply. If you have money to
burn, by all means get the fanciest named paper on the market. Do not use
Kleenex. I found the hard way why my eyeglasses never stopped blurring when I
used Kleenex. Kleenex comes with lotion in it.

I think a quick clean of the CD may fix everything.
Then again, you also have a dog. Dog hair gets into everything. You mightneed
to get some of that aerosol in a can[I have tech spray FREON], and blow the
insides of the drive out. Or vacuum the drive door.
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  #22  
Old 30-10-2009
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When Windows is loading files..., it is copying files from the Vista
DVD to the motherboard system memory. If winload.exe has checksum
errors, that means the copying process is introducing errors into the
copied file. Possible causes include system memory problems, or the
DVD drive having problems reading the DVD.

I would suggest you start by running a comprehensive memory test using
memtest86+ <http://www.memtest.org/#downiso>.

What is not causing the problem: bios boot order; at this stage of
setup, all you need to do is boot from the DVD, which is what is
happening.

Same result as what?

the next step would be to install from a different CD. But 1st, I'd take that
CD back where you got it for a full refund.
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  #23  
Old 31-10-2009
andy
 
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The hard drive doesn't get into play until setup tells you to specify
where to install Vista. You should be able to get to this point in
setup even without any connected hard drive.

My new opinion is that your CD/DVD drive is dead, based on your report of
the failure of an XP installation too.

Note that I said the DRIVE, not the cd or dvd disk.
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  #24  
Old 31-10-2009
Dave-UK
 
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Re: Please help ntldr is missing

I don't know.
Have you checked the memory ?
Can you try unplugging the modules and re-seating them.
If you have got 2 modules can you try removing one and see if you can
install from your known good XP cd using one memory module at a time.
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  #25  
Old 31-10-2009
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he has one file that can't be read. That's the DVD, not the drive.
Assuming it's a store bought, he should return it for a replacement CD.
If it's ebay, I'd say kiss your bux goodbye. And buy a CD from Walmart

He reported being unable to install XP as well.

Apparently, the Windows Vista installation disc you are using is
defective and should be replaced. For a replacement, see:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/326246
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  #26  
Old 31-10-2009
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Re: Please help ntldr is missing

Interesting to see that everyone who posted to this thread, apart from the OP,
was posting to the newsgroup and not the crap techarena forum.
If you try and follow the thread on the forum all the quotes have been
deleted making it impossible to follow logically.
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  #27  
Old 31-10-2009
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I was impressed too. Usually the forum posters are your run-of-the-mill
cubicle monkeys that think their post takes presidence over everything else,
especially when they reply to a 3 year old thread without quoting any of the
original text. akumageorges posted in a professional manner even though
he's green around computers. He replied to everyone who tried to help, even
though it must've been frustratiing because nothing was working, and kept
his composure. I feel bad because after he posted his fix, I remembered
that's exactly what I did with my old XP machine.
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  #28  
Old 03-11-2009
Gene E. Bloch
 
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Re: Please help ntldr is missing

Hmm. Maybe *that's* the real reason MS decide to go to a forum for 7,
(instead of doing it to avoid the plague of trolls we see here, as I and
others had presumed)...
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