Partition Hard Drive

[hawaiidream]

I just received a new laptop with vista ultimate, 200GB HDD, of which 175 is available on C:.

When i go to shrink the 175 space using vista, it says the the maximum shrink size 63GB.

1) what does this mean? Does it mean the new partition space will be 63GB and the C drive 112GB?
2) If the answer to 1 is yes, would a third party program allow me to create a larger new partition?
3) can a partition created using vista be reversed or resized later on?

thanks

Working Around Windows Vista's "Shrink Volume" Inadequacy Problems:
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windo...uacy-problems/

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Windows Vista Enthusiast

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"hawaiidream" <hawaiidream.3fklvd@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message news:hawaiidream.3fklvd@DoNotSpam.com...

I just received a new laptop with vista ultimate, 200GB HDD, of which
175 is available on C:.

When i go to shrink the 175 space using vista, it says the the maximum
shrink size 63GB.

1) what does this mean? Does it mean the new partition space will be
63GB and the C drive 112GB?
2) If the answer to 1 is yes, would a third party program allow me to
create a larger new partition?
3) can a partition created using vista be reversed or resized later
on?

thanks


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On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:50:00 -0500, "Carey Frisch [MVP]"
<cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote:

>Working Around Windows Vista's "Shrink Volume" Inadequacy Problems:
>http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windo...uacy-problems/
>
>--
>Carey Frisch
>Microsoft MVP
>Windows Desktop Experience -
>Windows Vista Enthusiast

One thing I love about fanboys is they endlessly tell us how wonderful
Vista is then in the next breath link to some web site that confirms
how screwed up it really is and how dangerous it is to even attempt to
fiddle with it usually ending in giving the lame advice do a clean
install instead.

Vista, millions of lines of code and nothing included that easily lets
you resize a partition without risking losing data. Priceless!

The built-in shrink utility will be able to decrease the partition size till
it bumps against the first unmovable/locked system file.

If you want to decrease the partition further you will need a 3rd party Disk
Management tool. I use Acronis Disk Director suite (ver 11.0 latest build).
It is 100% Vista compatible.

After installing the above program, create the emergency CD. Reboot the
computer and boot up with this CD. Do your partition work from there.

You will not be hampered with locked files.


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Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience


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>
> I just received a new laptop with vista ultimate, 200GB HDD, of which
> 175 is available on C:.
>
> When i go to shrink the 175 space using vista, it says the the maximum
> shrink size 63GB.
>
> 1) what does this mean? Does it mean the new partition space will be
> 63GB and the C drive 112GB?
> 2) If the answer to 1 is yes, would a third party program allow me to
> create a larger new partition?
> 3) can a partition created using vista be reversed or resized later
> on?
>
> thanks
>
>
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Yes, the builtin Vista partition tool is rather inadequate, although it
is better than XP's. Partition Magic is not compatible with Vista, so
don't try that. A program I've used for this purpose is Boot-It NG:
'Boot Manager, Partition Manager, and Drive Image Utility - BootIt Next
Generation'
(http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/boo...generation.htm)
You can download and try the program free for 30 days. It has a
built-in program to burn a CD with the program on it. After you do
that, you don't need to install it on your hard drive, but can boot from
it and run it from the CD. It's a rather "geeky" tool, with an old DOS
style format, but it's fairly easy to use. There are lots of videos and
tutorials you can look at on this page:
'TeraByte Unlimited :: Support :: BootIt Next Generation'
(http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/sup...generation.htm)


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On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:49:42 +0530, hawaiidream wrote:

> I just received a new laptop with vista ultimate, 200GB HDD, of which
> 175 is available on C:.
>
> When i go to shrink the 175 space using vista, it says the the maximum
> shrink size 63GB.
>
> 1) what does this mean? Does it mean the new partition space will be
> 63GB and the C drive 112GB?
> 2) If the answer to 1 is yes, would a third party program allow me to
> create a larger new partition?
> 3) can a partition created using vista be reversed or resized later on?
>
> thanks

I have found the Gparted Linux Live CD to be quite useful in partitioning
hard drives. It will tell you what is really up.

In article <879ic4l00l9r22tt41lb15tdqp14b0ic3r@4ax.com>,
Ringmaster <bigtop@VistaGeneralCircus.net> wrote:
>One thing I love about fanboys is they endlessly tell us how wonderful
>Vista is then in the next breath link to some web site that confirms

Very few LVM systems allow shrink volume at all, so in that way
at least Vista's ahead of some. I think AIX is the only one that actually
gets it right. Linux lvreduce mostly works but can corrupt the filesystem
and drops data that existed in the former data blocks.

On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:44:27 +0000 (UTC), wrat@panix.com (the wharf
rat) wrote:

>In article <879ic4l00l9r22tt41lb15tdqp14b0ic3r@4ax.com>,
>Ringmaster <bigtop@VistaGeneralCircus.net> wrote:
>>One thing I love about fanboys is they endlessly tell us how wonderful
>>Vista is then in the next breath link to some web site that confirms
>
> Very few LVM systems allow shrink volume at all, so in that way
>at least Vista's ahead of some. I think AIX is the only one that actually
>gets it right. Linux lvreduce mostly works but can corrupt the filesystem
>and drops data that existed in the former data blocks.

Yes, but the point is you shouldn't need to purchase third party
software to do something the OS itself should be capable of on it's
own.

The list of Windows failures is way too long to list fully but some
notable flaws that impact many follow:

1. The shell, Windows Explorer, has been fu*ked up for years and
Microsoft makes no attempt to truly fix it. Even many died in the
wool MVP's that otherwise endlessly sing the praises of Windows
hate it and admit they use something else.

2. UAC. The mere mention of it is enough to rile anyone.

3. Movie Maker. One of the biggest pieces of crap ever from
Microsoft refuses to play video files or starts, then chokes
while many third party free software have no issues at all
playing the same files.

4. Stupid things like Windows "forgetting" drive letter assignments
for USB devices, also not remembering how you arranged your icons
on your desktop if you change users or resolution or deciding to
change which folder view is shown regardless what you do.

5. The dreaded Explorer needs to close because... BS and never once
giving any valid reason why other than saying it is some internal
Windows file causing it.

6. Ridiculously long file processing times when copying or moving
files.

This takes us back to basic file system upkeep. Disk Management in
Vista is pitiful, clumsy and crude. You have issues resizing a
partition or pushing unallocated space back and forth. Using the
included disk defragmenter tool is laughable with it never doing
a decent job and precious little feedback. The poor implementation of
so-called security features forcing users to deal with cryptic file
permissions and ownerships.

There's simply too many rough spots for a product (Windows) that's
been on the market for over twenty years.

[hawaiidream]

Richard...thanks for your reply and suggestions, they were very helpful...BTW, i did go with acronis and partitioning worked effortlessly...

Happy to assist you.

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Windows Desktop Experience


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> Richard...thanks for your reply and suggestions, they were very
> helpful...BTW, i did go with acronis and partitioning worked
> effortlessly...
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