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| Vista32, new driver? & USB Mouse/Keyboard not working
Yesterday my Vista32 Ultimate was working fine, this morning it was in Standby mode - not normal behavior, as I have backups & scanning running most of the night. Powered on and found mouse didn't work. After that keyboard failed. Worked on it, found it to be Win problem but not sure what. Reading here I may be victim of USB problem, though I've been running fine since Christmas. Tried Safe mode, no change. Eventually got it back to Last Good Config and it worked but before I could do a restore it loaded new device drivers for my USB, apparently 3 drivers - Generic USB Hub, USB Composite Device, & USB Human Interface. Once they loaded keyboard and mouse died and even a restore to Last Known Good hasn't fixed the problem. I also tried a ps2 connector keyboard & mouse and they didn't work either... not quite sure why there, as I thought that was different than USB, but hey... I don't know everything. (smile) Any thoughts, directions, assistance appreciated on how to get my system running again. |
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| RE: Vista32, new driver? & USB Mouse/Keyboard not working
I too am having some sort of mouse trouble after the patches yesterday, and as of yet, no fix, but as far as the ps2 , you may want to make sure legacy support is enabled in the bios if you haven't been using them, maybe it was disabled or not enabled. My problem seems to be a duplicate instal in device manager under human interface devices, and mouse pointers. I would be curious to know if you have same thing, but i don't know how you can find out if you dont have mouse or keyboard working |
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| RE: Vista32, new driver? & USB Mouse/Keyboard not working
It may well be what happened, as I was able to get back to Last Known Config once and that's when I noticed it loading the device drivers for USB... I saw it load 3 drivers, Generic USB Hub, USB Composite Device, USB Human Interface... and it did this two times. As to the PS2, for the mouse, I had to re-enable it in Bios, but it didn't fix Win problem nor did using ps2 kybd. Again, not sure why, as I thought that was different drivers/different hw. Have tried System Restore off Vista install disk, but it never runs. It SAYS it's running but nothing ever comes up. Ran Fix System and it says nothing is wrong. |
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I am also having the same problem, but this doesn't exactly solve the problem. Is there anything that can fix this issue caused by windows update? Definitely an Automatic Updates issue. Spent three hours last night trying the exact same fixes. I plugged another mouse into a different USB port and did a restore to an earlier date but the mouse didn't work. So I unplugged it and plugged my other wireless mouse and keyboard back into it's normal USB port and they started working fine. Then this morning my computer automatically installed the updates again and I had no mouse again!! the only difference is I'm running x64 Ultimate. Since yesterdays update, no USB mouse will work. To troubleshoot I: Changed batteries. Changed the Mouse to a different USB mouse Changed the USB ports. Tried PS2 PS2 are the only ones that work. My USB ports are fine, I can see drives etc from them, but not the mice. When I try to plug in my logitech Cordless Trackman, it tries to install drivers, which it doesn't need to do. What the... So who do I yell at to get my mice working again? I hate ps2. |
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your restore point should still exist, you could disconnect your internet, and restore again, buying yourself a chance to poke around without it updating on ya More and more complaints are rolling in, we can only hope they will get it fixed and patch again to help us out :/ It sure seems to be usb related, HID devices,(mice and keyboards) most notably. Obviously there are many out there without a 2nd pc, who are probably stuck without a mouse/keyboard who can't even ask for help. x64 vista home premium here, I narrowed down my problem to vista trying to find a driver for HID mouse, if i cancel out it keeps working without error, just pops up everytime i reboot... new hardware found and driver instal failed. Mouse shows no error in device manager and I installed 64bit intellipoint with no problem, just no driver for HID mouse device. The problem is definetly related to USB , HID, and seemingly the patch a few days ago triggered it, although removing the patches did not fix it for me. |
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I caught the updater before it could start up and manually installed and rebooted after each update. My Mouse went bye bye on Vista (KB938371). Did a restare and all was well. I am putting update on manual until I see a fix has been issued. I suggest the rest do the same. I fixed my problem by going to device manager and uninstalling everything under the HID section. Mouse now finally works after 2 days of struggling to fix it. |
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| Re: Vista32, new driver? & USB Mouse/Keyboard not working
Same exact problem here, but Vista 64 Ultimate. Installed KB938371, and at first bootup lost use of my Logitech USB Trackman Wheel. It was showing up as a Generic USB HID device, and not responding.. Other drivers were showing up as "unknown device", when I rebooted, it turned out that was my keyboard and laptop's touchpad - both of which interface through USB. On that second reboot, keyboard and mouse stopped working completely - and computer was as good as dead. Luckily had a full backup. I've found no other solutions yet. Installing drivers manually gives me errors about "access denied", "file not found" or messages about the driver being "designed for windows 95 or later" and missing part of the INF file. This is a REALLY, REALLY bad one, MS. As another poster mentioned, a lot of folks having this problem won't even be able to respond or complain online, and I'll bet it'll take a few days before the Tier 1 tech support people at MS's call centers realizes it's not just people with faulty cables / unplugged mice. This has been the first update in years that has simply knocked my computer dead. Automatic updates are now OFF, and will remain so.. Hopefully a hotfix comes in days - not weeks. Smooth move, microsoft. |
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| Re: Vista32, new driver? & USB Mouse/Keyboard not working
I fixed my problem by changing the mouse entry under Human interface devices, to HID-compliant consumer control device. Theres a more complete fix post under my thread "Mouse not recognized after reboot following the 4/8 patch" |
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I have been plagued with your problem for months. I have to go to safe mode, uninstall all the drivers, reboot and eventually everything *might* start working again. After maybe a week or a fortnight if I am lucky, I will then have another random USB shutdown. Vista sucks. I think the only solution is to upgrade to XP. Like me! I spent two days repeatedly hard-rebooting my computer (ie just pulling the plug out) until eventually Vista installed the mouse and keyboard drivers. OK, I will try that. BTW, why don't they just call it a frigging mouse in Device Manager? Did Dr Spock design Windows? |
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| Re: Vista32, new driver? & USB Mouse/Keyboard not working
I know and fully agree, but to make sure I was clear on what i was doing.... In device manager there is a catagory called mice and other pointing devices. In that catagory it is called mouse, and uses the intellipoint software for a microsoft mouse. The change I made was in the Device manager also, in the catagory "Human interface Devices" and i changed it FROM mouse TO HID-compliant consumer control device. Having 2 places with the mouse listed was either causing the conflict, or blocking the load of the driver, when it requires this usbtype driver instead, I am hoping this includes keyboards for those having usb keyboard problems also. From what I read and correct me if I am wrong (sure someone will :P) HID was supposed to replace/upgrade the usb interfaces and never fully reached it's potential and was integrated instead. I look at it as a bridge between the onboard USB hubs and the system interface. So something like, mouse/keyboard to USB hub to HID interface to System (where the device is finally called mouse or keyboard, hard drive, etc). No reason why vista or the last patch interuptted this, but if you look at some the posts over the last 18 months, several vista patches has had this effect. As a side note for self builders and upgraders, Improper power supply size can cause havok with usb devices. |
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All this week I'd work out of my office. I left my mouse on work table and use my HP Compaq nc6320 laptop without it. I'm back today and found my usb mouse doesn't work now. It works good on my wife HP Compaq nc6320 with Windows XP but not for me :-) with my vista business. I am having the same problem. I didnot have a mouse after Windows updates. Uninstalled the updates and now I don't have a keyboard. Any help would be appreciated. Before uninstall system restore would not work and last known good boot was useless as is safe mode. After my son inadvertently pushed the restart and install updates button (xp would change user now you must push the arrow at the end of the line)trying to get to his profile my computer hasn't been the same (No Mouse) . Option number 3 worked like a charm for me ... outside of the Warning about Microsoft not being able to verify the driver it went PERFECTLY !!! What a joke Microsoft can't verify it's own drivers ! I have similar problem to all. Running Vista Home Prem and able to deal with all gliches, until Monday, when my mouse and keyboard (wireless usb) both died. Tried usb mouse, ps2 keyboard, restoring to much earlier date. Everything works in safe mode, but *no mouse or keyboard of any kind* after Vista loads. At this point I'd like to throw the damn thing out the window. Any suggestions gratefully accepted. |
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| RE: Vista32, new driver? & USB Mouse/Keyboard not working
Symptoms: Old usb devices worked fine new usb devices would not install patch Windows6.0-KB940199-x86 or x64 would not install (error "this update does not apply to your system") pointing the installation to C:\windows\system32 returned an error The issue is solved now and I took a few roads to get here. I tried moving around the usbstor and deleting the infcache.1 with no results. My computer had best results with number 3 but i will post all my steps. 1. I opened the device manager and uninstalled all the entries under Universal Serial Bus Controller. Vista will try to reinstal them as you uninstal, just keep track of what you have uninstalled already. After you have uninstalled all the entries restart Vista. After this I tried installing my new usb device... no luck 2. Download update KB940119 (either x86 or x64), using 7-zip extract the installation file and copy the file Windows6.0-KB940199-x86.cab to c:\ (i choose c:\ because it was easy to type). In CMD type "start /w pkgmgr /ip /m:c:\Windows6.0-KB940199-x86.cab" (copied from earlier post xechvol) after install, reboot machine again. I tried my devices after this and again nothing. 3. After plugging in my new usb device, from the Device Manager window, click "Unknown Device" and click update driver. Click Browse My Computer for Driver Software. Either navigate to or type C:\Windows\winsxs and go on from there. This one worked for me after pulling up a warning about the driver not being digitally signed or something. I have rebooted my computer and installed 3 other new usb devices all of different nature and all three have installed fine without needing any input from me (just the way it used to be). |
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Sorry to report, but I was never able to recover from this error. PS2 mouse/kybd wouldn't work, even after enabling in Bios. USB or PS2 worked fine on computer until Vista loaded, then locked. ONLY resolution for me was to pull hd, install in another Dell, copy data, and then wipe array and rebuild my computer. Hoping a clean build will prevent problem that wiped successful running of Vista Ultimate for past 4 months. Chris155 had excellent write-up... I sure hope Microsoft is reading what they've done. I'm NOT real happy right now... and taxes have to be finished by Tuesday! There seems to be a lot of talk about the vista update KB938371 and it knocking out your mouse etc. Has anyone found a solution as yet? try system restore back to march it worked for me |
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| Re: Vista32, new driver? & USB Mouse/Keyboard not working
While in safe mode run a full anti-virus scan might find a culprit. Another thing to try is to run check disk from safe mode since may find and fix a corrupted file that is causing your problem. |
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#15
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| USB/PS2 mouse and keyboard not working/locks up
Cause error in file C:\windows\prefetch\agapplaunch.db Fix F8 enter safe mode computer C:right click properties tools error checking, check now allow to run. This fixed my problem |
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