Firewire (IEEE 1394) not working

I can´t connect my video camera Sony DV with the firewire connection.
I tried the two connections (frontal and back).I am using the 9 pin
connector
Before installing Vista It worked perfectly.
I can connect to my laptop (with a 6 pin cable) and to another older
computer with windows XP with the same 9 pin cable without problems.
As anybody a solution ?

[neil741]

Does the IEEE 1394 port show up in Device Manager under it's Bus host
controller entry? If this port is on the motherboard, did you remember to
install the motherboard utility drivers from the motherboard manufacturer's
website?

A 4pin to 4pin 1394 cable isn't powered like a 6pin one. If you're using a
notebook and only have access to 4pin (either end) then ensure you have the
camcorder using A/C power, which should be enough to keep the connection
going. If you are on a desktop, use the 6pin (PC end) to 4pin (camcorder
end) and you should get a good connection.
I am running Vista Home Premium 32 bit on my Acer laptop. The pcmcia
firewire works on my neighbors XP laptop but not on my laptop. Do you
think the jobsagoodun solution would work for my Canon camcorder
connected to the firewire? I sure hope someone can help me. I am new
to this site.

I have Sony DCR-TRV18E Digital Video Camera. When I try to import the
video using a 4-pin IEEE1394 cable on Windows Vista using Microsoft
Movie Maker, I get the message that my camera is not connected to the
laptop.

Is there any driver that needs to be installed or could there be a
problem in the cable itself?

I am having a similar issue as well. My Canon ZR800 was recognized and
working perfectly last week with the DV (4 -pin) out of the camera into the
4-pin IEEE 1394 port on my Dell Vostro. However, now when I hook it up again
the computer recognizes it (pings), it shows up in the registry, but there is
a yellow triangle with an exclamation point and the machine is asking for a
driver. Canon says the driver is pre-installed in Vista, Dell says it is a
Vista issue, Microsoft said to come here. I have tried downloading the
recommended hotfix without any luck. Cameras are plugged in and cords are
new. Again, it worked last week, now it doesn't...

Well, I'm running Vista on a HP dv9000. I had so many problems and
compatibility issues that I downgraded back to a sound OS.. XP over a
year ago. Then, my video went out and that's when all my problems really
started. Vista was re-installed by HP. I thought that a year later, my
peripherals might now have work... but no dice. But, ALAS!! I was able
to solve all my problems by doing something I never thought I'd do.... I
bought a Mac!! :O) Thanks MicroSoft and HP... one of the best decisions
I've ever made. My firewire cable and devices work just fine with it,
right out of the box.

I just got the Canon DV-30 yesterday. Using Vista Business, on the first
attempt it worked with no problem, Movie Maker recognized all the
downloaded video. Than I added some more and tried the same thing...
dead! I hear the ba-ding, no visible message, and no Import Wizard.
Movie Maker on import cannot see the camcorder.
In the same time Nero recognizes the camcorder, operates it, but no
download...
Reboot, camcorder off... after several tries, it might work...
completely unstable.
In my opinion, there is a Class-Action on the horizon...
Any good news?

Having scoured the internet for info I finally came across a tip
incorporated below to fix my Sony camcorder to Vista 1394 firewire
problem

Shuttle XPC SB75G2
P4 3.07
1Gb Mem
ATI 256Mb 1950XT
dual 360Gb SATA drives
Vista Ultimate

Sony DCR-PC330e camcorder

Before:
Vista says 1394 driver Ok
plug in camera- no response from Vista when camera is connected


procedure; (that worked for me)

In device manager
Uninstall 1394 device
turn camera on
plug in to 1394 port

in device manager;
Action/scan for hardware changes
system sees 1394 port, installs driver automatically

system then detected Sony DV-VCR automatically
manualy install driver by right clicking it in Device manager and
selecting 'update driver software'
do not let it do it automatically, select 'browse my computer for
driver software'
point it at c:\windows

it detects it as a 61883 class bus device and installs driver
camcorder appears in device manager as imaging device
after completion it brought up the autoplay window to ask how I wanted
to import the video

[pablo dee]

NOPE doesn't work on my system... it's a Vista problem... I'm running Ultimate and a panasonic cam that works fine on my XP machine won't even be recognised on my Vista pc .... a friend who has a sony cam and a different pc has the same issue so it's NOT a hardware issue it's the OS... i notice that some manufacturers (ie Epson) are now telling customers that Vista WILL NOT WORK with firewire ... i checked some of the support areas on here and it looks like MS is intentionally reducing the support for firewire ... I think they should highlight this when you purchase Vista as it is sold as being designed for multimedia and firewire is very popular ... i should have got a XP machine :( boo hoo ... next time I purchase a pc i don't think it will be one using an MS OS !

Here's my story.... any more input on resolutions! Pleae reply.

I bought Vista (Home Edition 32-bit) in December '07 from Dell. For 5
months, my Sony Hi8 DV Camcorder worked great. I could download movies
without a problem using a 4 to 6 pin firewire cable (IEEE 1394) right into
Adobe Premier Elements 4.0 for editing.

Until May... at some point, the same camera via the same firewire cable is
now no longer recognized by the computer, or by the software, and doesn't
even appear in my device manager list. The only change I made was the
purchase of a Dell 22" LCD monitor with an intregal webcam.

I talked with Dell online, and they want me to revert to factory settings. I
didn't do this. I talked with Adobe online and they suggested deleting the
firewire port registry key. I didn't do this. I talked with Sony and they
said to have the camera fixed. I decided to have the camera serviced for $110.

Unfortunately, that did not fix the problem. The camera is still not
recognized. Thinking it might be the webcam drivers blocking the imaging
device, I tried to uninstall all the components of that webcam, but I don't
know if I did it correctly, because that didn't seem to work. And Vista goes
looking for the webcam drivers and loads it again.

I bought a new Sony mini-DV camera. That does not work either.

The cables and ports I have used all work because it allows me to plug in
and use my Sony CD/DVD-ROM device.

Any ideas why it would just stop working? And any ideas on how to get Vista
to recognize my camera?

[Expertz]

FireWire (IEEE 1394) Troubleshooting

Description of 1394 Connection in Windows XP

This article describes the 1394 connection in Windows XP. Windows XP provides support for Internet Protocol (IP) networking over the IEEE 1394 bus. The interface is listed in the Network Connections folder as "1394 Connection".

Using IEEE 1394 (FireWire) Devices with Windows XP

This article describes the Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers (IEEE) 1394 standard and how to use IEEE 1394 with Microsoft Windows XP. NOTE : Apple Computer FireWire is a common implementation of the IEEE 1394 standard.

General Troubleshooting for IEEE 1394 Devices and Host Controllers

This article lists basic steps for troubleshooting Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineering (IEEE) 1394 devices and host controllers.

1394 Storage Device Does Not Work After You Insert or Remove 1394 Device

A 1394 storage device with more than one Logical Unit Number (LUN) may stop functioning if another 1394 device is either inserted or removed from the computer.

[KevReid]

I have been having the same problem - only in my case I can sometimes get the camera to be recognised. I have the same problem on a Laptop with XP sp2 and on Vista ultimate.

I found this link

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/885222

and follwed the registry edits to get mine to a state where it is more reliable.

The problem appears to be with older firewire enabled cameras. When XP SP 2 was released microsoft changed the SipSpeed setting from 100 to 400 but this can be too fast for some older equipment.

I created the SipSpeed entry in the registry and XP2 was fine.

I took a chance making the same change for Vista and it looks a lot more reliable since then.

I guess there could be some newer cameras that have the same problem as well if they have the old firewire connection speed.

Good Luck

Strange that when you search for this exact problem on Google you come
up with a million questions, and no real answers...

I am probably more frustrated than anyone else on here, because it has
worked on my Vista computer in the past, and now isn't!

I have a Dell XPS with 1394 on board, using a Ricoh 1394 driver. I
have restarted, bought a new firewire cable, tried using the USB,
resetting the camera, unplugging, replugging, uninstalling the 1394
device, Searching for updates etc... to no avail.


Bottom line, my devices show a 1394 device, and show the driver as the
most updated, but when I plug in a working Sony Camcorder (DCR-TRV38) I
don't get a ba-ding at all. I suspected a bad cable, so bought a brand
new one, still nothing.

I am using Adobe Premier Pro CS2 to attempt the importing, and have
done so successfully in the past. There are even videos on this
computer that I have captured from this camera with this unit.

I am out of ideas.

Lastly, when I plug in the USB as a last gasp effort to download stuff,
it tried to find a driver, then said there was a compatibility issue
with the Sony and Vista. After reading that three or so times I
accidentally in a fit of rage pressed "don't tell me this anymore with
this device" or something, and now wish I hadn't. Any way to undo that
little drama?

New on here. Same problem as many of you with having the 1394 port
recognize a connected device - a Camera. In my case a Sony DCR-TRV315.
After reading all of these responses and doing some experimenting I very
much believe that this is a Microsoft Vista software/driver issue. When
I plug my DCR-TRV315 into my son's Apple MacBook - BOOM - there is is in
iMovie and I movie is "Ready to import from DCR-TRV315"......could not
be any easier - thats PLUG & PLAY.

HOW does something like this get RAISED as a problem report officially
to Microsoft versus us regular people just complaining about it.

Firewire is not supported in Vista-try downloading 3rd party drivers.

It works for my firewire connected JVC miniDV camcorder, but wont work
for connecting two computers.

[cmahendra]

Hi There

I had same problem with my Sony Digital8 (also called HI8 ) handycam. My vista system was not able to detect my Handycam with a very very cheap FIREWIRE PCI Card I bought in local market for only $4, yes four dollars. It came with same cable 6pin to 4pin Firewire (Sony calls it i.Link). I was trying to connect with same cable 4pin at camera end and 6pin on PCI Card, with no luck. I tried everything an expert would do, but got only frustration. Even tried a lot on Internet for the solution but it seems no one knew.

Then I started from scratch, TO DECIDED TO READ MANUAL. While reading the PDF manual found on Sony Support site, trust me, I found those golden words "USE ONLY 4PIN TO 4PIN i.Link Cable for Firewire connection."

I ran back to market and bought 4PIN TO 4PIN Firewire Cable for $1.5

At first trial, trust me, it detected "SONY DV Camcorder" and installed drivers automatically. I confirmed by going into Device Manager and found same entry in Imaging Device section. Then what in every possible software existed on my system, DV Capture was available, which was found always disabled.

Now the funny part it, technically there is no difference in 6pin to 4pin Firewire cable as two pins are used for Voltage which is discarded at 4 pin end. But it seems SONY Handycam does not wants itself to connect it to 6pin socket at PCI card end.

So these are the final things to remember.

1) Use only 4pin to 4pin Firewire cable (any cheaper make. $1.5 will do)

2) Use any cheaper FIREWIRE PCI card with at least one 4pin firewire socket. When installed XP or Vista will install driver automatically just confirm that "IEEE 1394 bus host controller" entry is shown in Device manager or not.

3) No matter you use cheaper or costlier PCI card or cable the quality will always be same coz D8 Handycams directly transfer encoded Video Data in Digital format thru Firewire cable. Firewire cable does not transfer RF video input. I get default video with 720x576 with 25 Frames/s in PAL mode.

4) No additional codecs are required to install in pc like others suggested. Required codecs are always there in XP and VISTA with windows movie maker.

5) No additional software is required, as you can directly capture with Windows Movie Maker in high quality. My choice is Adobe Premier CS3. If you want to make directly MPG file you may use ULEAD VIDEOSTUDIO 8 or later.

6) Dont blame SONY as they already told you which exact cable to use.

7) Dont blame Vista. Its nothing to do with it. Sony's PicturePackage for XP does not work on vista. For vista they offered PICTURE MOTION BROWSER which also have easy VIDEO Capture utlity with same high quality capture.

7) In handycam mode, you can control PLAY/STOP/PAUSE of Handycam from PC itself from all the video software you use, which is high convinience for capturing.

8) The sequence to capture is first Switch on the CAMERA, put it on PLAY/EDIT mode (also called VCR mode). Then connect firewire cable on both sides. Now you see the words DV-IN on LCD of camera. Now start any Video Capture Software of your choice. You will find CAPTURE command in FILE menu in almost all softwares.

Trust me I am going to add this information in almost all forums where similar problems were asked but nowhere the solution found. May be I can help them. Trust me I signed up this forum only to add this information.

[texdig]

Ah, the inspired enthusiasm of youth, above. But alas, the old fallacy of inductive reasoning still holds true. Unless the rules of logic have changed, a local success aint a global remedy. This is no solution for my VAIO (sony) laptop's 4pin firewire to 4pin of Sony VX-2000.

Soooo... I for one continue to blame Vista and/or Sony with full vigor.

Any real fixes on the horizon?

Guys, I'm lucky enough (?) to have two computers that have firewire
interfaces. One is a SONY Vaio running Vista Home Premium 32 and the
other is one that I built using the i7 Intel running Vista Home Premium
64. The Sony PC works with all of my Sony cameras and FireStore devices,
perfectly. The i7 PC does not. I have tried numerous fixes including
installing two different 1394 interface cards besides using the on-board
1394 interface. The Vista 64 PC will not reconize any 1394 device. When
I hook up to the V64 I get the Windows "ding" sound but the pop up
window that tells you that the device is now ready to use never shows
up. The SONY VIAO works without any problem WITH THE SAME CABLE AND
DEVICES. This is NOT a cable issue.

I also have an old XP (32 bit) machine with a Creative sound card that
includes a 1394 interface. All of my cameras and firewire devices work
with it.

For now I must download the video to the Sony and then move the files
to the i7 PC for editing and rendering (Wow, it is FAST!).

I am hoping that this weekend I will have time to do a comparison of
the registry settings between the two Vista PCs. I think that the clue
to this lies there. It would explain why some PCs work and some don't if
the Vista install has different settings. I am now using three different
chip sets on firewire interfaces so I think that that has been ruled
out. The same cables that work on one PC won't work on the other so the
cables are not the issue. Vista 64 says that all of the 1394 devices are
"working correctly.....BS" so the drivers are there and at least loaded.

I'm using a Grass Valley (Canopus) ADVC video capture device with the
supplied cable. I was plugging in the ADVC to the top firewire port and
would get a "ping" sound. Last week Adobe Premiere wouldn't recognize the
ADVC. When I unplug and plug back in no "ping" sound. I plugged the ADVC
into my laptop with that same cable and the laptop recognized the ADVC fine.

How can I remove and reinstall drivers or files associated with the 1394
Host and XP?

I installed SP2 for Vista x64 and now my Firewire works! The problem was
the OS.

I have the exact same problem with Vista Ultimate 64. I'm going back to
XP. The only Microsoft OPERATING SYSTEM I've ever run. I stared with
Windows 3 Nightmare Windows 95 was an improvement but crashed, Windows
98 Train wreck, 2000 much better but 6 month drive rebuilds were
required. Windows XP worked well. What happened? Shame on you Tisk
Tisk shame on you Microsoft i feel like I'm running Window 3.0 again.