Win 98SE vs Toshiba External Hard Drive 250GB

Hi,

Just bougth a Toshiba External USB 2.0 250GB hard disk. The saleguy
tells me it will work on any pc. I have tried it on my W 98SE pc but it
won't work because it needs drivers. Just like other stuff i put on my
98SE. Now Toshiba tells me these hard drives will only work on XP and
there are no drivers available for other platforms.

Has anybody managed to get this device working under 98SE? Otherwise
the only way for me is to get my money back at the shop.

Greatings

mega wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Just bougth a Toshiba External USB 2.0 250GB hard disk. The saleguy
> tells me it will work on any pc. I have tried it on my W 98SE pc but it
> won't work because it needs drivers. Just like other stuff i put on my
> 98SE. Now Toshiba tells me these hard drives will only work on XP and
> there are no drivers available for other platforms.
>
> Has anybody managed to get this device working under 98SE? Otherwise
> the only way for me is to get my money back at the shop.
>
> Greatings
>

Well, if Toshiba told you that there are no drivers for 98SE then it is
likely that it will not work for this operating system. BTW, you will
need to have a controller card when you get above the 137 gigabyte limit
of 98SE. I think having multiple partitions can also overcome this
problem but I know a controller card can overcome this problem. I have
an 80 gigabyte Western Digital with XP Professional and Windows Vista
Ultimate --- 32 bit edition on that hard drive in separate partitions
that were created courtesy of Boot It NG. This drive is a slave drive
to my main master drive which is a smaller 40 gigabyte hard drive in Fat
32 which is set up in one giant partition for Window 98 Second Edition.
I have only used up about 10 gigabytes of space for the 98SE side of
my computer and still have plenty of room left on the other hard drive
as well. BTW, I have emailed support at Western Digital to register my
two hard drives and also for your consideration since these two hard
drives have worked out so well for me then I will find out what you can
get and what I can get as a replacement hard drive when needed for
98SE. Have a nice day, mega and the response should be within 1-2
business days!

Thanks Dan!

Yes, it looks kind of dumb of me to try to get it running but the guy
in the shop told me it would. After i sent tech support of the shop an
email they told me they do supply a driver for it. I asked them to tell
me where i could get it, but have yet to get an answer. This while
Toshiba told me they don't have drivers. I hope it wil work because it
is a big harddisk for little money. Besides, other vendors will
probably also stop making 98SE drivers so the only option would then be
to upgrade the laptop. Laptop is still fast enough with 98SE, but
probably not on xp or even vista later on.

Agian, thanks!

Greatings

mega wrote:
> Thanks Dan!
>
> Yes, it looks kind of dumb of me to try to get it running but the guy
> in the shop told me it would. After i sent tech support of the shop an
> email they told me they do supply a driver for it. I asked them to tell
> me where i could get it, but have yet to get an answer. This while
> Toshiba told me they don't have drivers. I hope it wil work because it
> is a big harddisk for little money. Besides, other vendors will
> probably also stop making 98SE drivers so the only option would then be
> to upgrade the laptop. Laptop is still fast enough with 98SE, but
> probably not on xp or even vista later on.
>
> Agian, thanks!
>
> Greatings
>

You are most welcome. Support for 98SE is still there especially in
regards to some of the hardware coming out. For example, I was told
Logitech has a new laser mouse that works with 98SE. I have not yet
confirmed this but see no reason why someone would lie about this. The
last Ati Radeon card that is the latest and greatest for 98SE and
supported through a ME driver is Ati Radeon 9800 XT with 256 megs. of
video memory and supports 4x/8x AGP (Advanced Graphics Port). I
upgraded from Ati 9000 to Ati 9200 and now to the 9800 XT for my
tri-boot system. I have a Sound Blaster Audigy 1 --- a slightly older
model of the one currently offered on the website that has drivers that
work in 98SE. The nice thing about this Creative solution and Ati
solution is that both are fully supported from 98SE to Windows Vista
except for the Sound Blaster Audigy 1-2 (not sure about 3-4 yet) which
has driver issues that I and Rock, MVP have discovered. Another user
posted about the solution being to use the current XP driver but I have
not tried this solution yet. A large power supply and a large enough
case is critical when building a PC. I also have a DVD burner and a CD
burner and two hard drives but enough about that and I will check my
email for any information that may help you. It is time for me to have
a late breakfast and bye for now!

Dan,

None of that info applies to exernal HDDs.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"Dan" <spamyou@user.nec> wrote in message
news:exerwO74GHA.888@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> mega wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Just bougth a Toshiba External USB 2.0 250GB hard disk. The saleguy
>> tells me it will work on any pc. I have tried it on my W 98SE pc but it
>> won't work because it needs drivers. Just like other stuff i put on my
>> 98SE. Now Toshiba tells me these hard drives will only work on XP and
>> there are no drivers available for other platforms.
>>
>> Has anybody managed to get this device working under 98SE? Otherwise
>> the only way for me is to get my money back at the shop.
>>
>> Greatings
>>
>
> Well, if Toshiba told you that there are no drivers for 98SE then it is
> likely that it will not work for this operating system. BTW, you will
> need to have a controller card when you get above the 137 gigabyte limit
> of 98SE. I think having multiple partitions can also overcome this
> problem but I know a controller card can overcome this problem. I have an
> 80 gigabyte Western Digital with XP Professional and Windows Vista
> Ultimate --- 32 bit edition on that hard drive in separate partitions that
> were created courtesy of Boot It NG. This drive is a slave drive to my
> main master drive which is a smaller 40 gigabyte hard drive in Fat 32
> which is set up in one giant partition for Window 98 Second Edition. I
> have only used up about 10 gigabytes of space for the 98SE side of my
> computer and still have plenty of room left on the other hard drive as
> well. BTW, I have emailed support at Western Digital to register my two
> hard drives and also for your consideration since these two hard drives
> have worked out so well for me then I will find out what you can get and
> what I can get as a replacement hard drive when needed for 98SE. Have a
> nice day, mega and the response should be within 1-2 business days!

What model is the drive? Do you have USB 2.0 capability on that machine?

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"mega" <megaprutser@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1159517631.666323.307320@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> Hi,
>
> Just bougth a Toshiba External USB 2.0 250GB hard disk. The saleguy
> tells me it will work on any pc. I have tried it on my W 98SE pc but it
> won't work because it needs drivers. Just like other stuff i put on my
> 98SE. Now Toshiba tells me these hard drives will only work on XP and
> there are no drivers available for other platforms.
>
> Has anybody managed to get this device working under 98SE? Otherwise
> the only way for me is to get my money back at the shop.
>
> Greatings
>

Dan W. wrote:
> mega wrote:
>> Thanks Dan!
>>
>> Yes, it looks kind of dumb of me to try to get it running but the guy
>> in the shop told me it would. After i sent tech support of the shop an
>> email they told me they do supply a driver for it. I asked them to tell
>> me where i could get it, but have yet to get an answer. This while
>> Toshiba told me they don't have drivers. I hope it wil work because it
>> is a big harddisk for little money. Besides, other vendors will
>> probably also stop making 98SE drivers so the only option would then be
>> to upgrade the laptop. Laptop is still fast enough with 98SE, but
>> probably not on xp or even vista later on.
>>
>> Agian, thanks!
>>
>> Greatings
>>
>
> You are most welcome. Support for 98SE is still there especially in
> regards to some of the hardware coming out. For example, I was told
> Logitech has a new laser mouse that works with 98SE. I have not yet
> confirmed this but see no reason why someone would lie about this. The
> last Ati Radeon card that is the latest and greatest for 98SE and
> supported through a ME driver is Ati Radeon 9800 XT with 256 megs. of
> video memory and supports 4x/8x AGP (Advanced Graphics Port). I
> upgraded from Ati 9000 to Ati 9200 and now to the 9800 XT for my
> tri-boot system. I have a Sound Blaster Audigy 1 --- a slightly older
> model of the one currently offered on the website that has drivers that
> work in 98SE. The nice thing about this Creative solution and Ati
> solution is that both are fully supported from 98SE to Windows Vista
> except for the Sound Blaster Audigy 1-2 (not sure about 3-4 yet) which
> has driver issues that I and Rock, MVP have discovered. Another user
> posted about the solution being to use the current XP driver but I have
> not tried this solution yet. A large power supply and a large enough
> case is critical when building a PC. I also have a DVD burner and a CD
> burner and two hard drives but enough about that and I will check my
> email for any information that may help you. It is time for me to have
> a late breakfast and bye for now!

Thanks Gary and you reminded me to read the title better.

Gary S. Terhune schreef:

> What model is the drive? Do you have USB 2.0 capability on that machine?
>
> --
>
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User


Hi,

I have the Toshiba ( PX1266E-1G25 ) 250 GB. USB 2.0 is no problem.
Works with Sandisk and Nikon stuff.

The fact is it recognizes a new device as i beleive "USB 2.0 + Hdd" or
something, i will check this tonight. Then it wants a driver. Isn't
there a driver from a previous Toshiba USB drive when 98 was still
supported i can use?

Greatings

mega wrote:
> Gary S. Terhune schreef:
>
>> What model is the drive? Do you have USB 2.0 capability on that machine?
>>
>> --
>>
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I have the Toshiba ( PX1266E-1G25 ) 250 GB. USB 2.0 is no problem.
> Works with Sandisk and Nikon stuff.
>
> The fact is it recognizes a new device as i beleive "USB 2.0 + Hdd" or
> something, i will check this tonight. Then it wants a driver. Isn't
> there a driver from a previous Toshiba USB drive when 98 was still
> supported i can use?
>
> Greatings
>

It depends if Toshiba wrote a driver for the external hard drive for
98/98SE and it should have told you which operating systems were supported.

--
Dan W.

Computer User

Get your money back. Toshiba doesn't bother to provide *any* drivers for
that drive, depending instead on the native drivers in Win 2000 and XP (and
presumably, Vista.) Everywhere I look, the product specs specifically state
"OS Required -- Windows 2000 or XP". Toshiba's own site lists no drivers.

I've always had good luck with Maxtor external HDs. Just make sure that
they're using USB2. On USB 1, the timing apparently causes problems that
Windows interprets as file system issues, corruption, etc. Scandisk, et al,
will proceed to mangle the data if you let them. At least, I've seen that
happen, even in XP (but using USB1).

Regardless of what model you choose next, if it doesn't say right on the box
that Win98SE is supported, then write down the model number(s), then go home
and thoroughly research them before making your purchase. Or do what I do --
research the models online before going out, or even make the purchase
online.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"mega" <megaprutser@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1159859850.104684.188790@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> Gary S. Terhune schreef:
>
>> What model is the drive? Do you have USB 2.0 capability on that machine?
>>
>> --
>>
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I have the Toshiba ( PX1266E-1G25 ) 250 GB. USB 2.0 is no problem.
> Works with Sandisk and Nikon stuff.
>
> The fact is it recognizes a new device as i beleive "USB 2.0 + Hdd" or
> something, i will check this tonight. Then it wants a driver. Isn't
> there a driver from a previous Toshiba USB drive when 98 was still
> supported i can use?
>
> Greatings
>

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> Get your money back. Toshiba doesn't bother to provide *any* drivers for
> that drive, depending instead on the native drivers in Win 2000 and XP (and
> presumably, Vista.) Everywhere I look, the product specs specifically state
> "OS Required -- Windows 2000 or XP". Toshiba's own site lists no drivers.
>
> I've always had good luck with Maxtor external HDs. Just make sure that
> they're using USB2. On USB 1, the timing apparently causes problems that
> Windows interprets as file system issues, corruption, etc. Scandisk, et al,
> will proceed to mangle the data if you let them. At least, I've seen that
> happen, even in XP (but using USB1).
>
> Regardless of what model you choose next, if it doesn't say right on the box
> that Win98SE is supported, then write down the model number(s), then go home
> and thoroughly research them before making your purchase. Or do what I do --
> research the models online before going out, or even make the purchase
> online.
>

Great advice and I agree with you completely, Gary. Hmm, wonder if
Gekko will chime in about this but I don't care. <grin>

--
Dan W.

Computer User

RE: Maxtor External Hard Drives

The Maxtor Personal Storage 3100 series supports Windows 98 and above. The
newer Personal Storage 3200 series only supports Win2000 and XP. Make sure
you get the right drive if you want to use it with Win98.

Kevin



"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:eExjWBu5GHA.4616@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Get your money back. Toshiba doesn't bother to provide *any* drivers for
> that drive, depending instead on the native drivers in Win 2000 and XP
(and
> presumably, Vista.) Everywhere I look, the product specs specifically
state
> "OS Required -- Windows 2000 or XP". Toshiba's own site lists no drivers.
>
> I've always had good luck with Maxtor external HDs. Just make sure that
> they're using USB2. On USB 1, the timing apparently causes problems that
> Windows interprets as file system issues, corruption, etc. Scandisk, et
al,
> will proceed to mangle the data if you let them. At least, I've seen that
> happen, even in XP (but using USB1).
>
> Regardless of what model you choose next, if it doesn't say right on the
box
> that Win98SE is supported, then write down the model number(s), then go
home
> and thoroughly research them before making your purchase. Or do what I
do --
> research the models online before going out, or even make the purchase
> online.
>
> --
>
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
>
> "mega" <megaprutser@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1159859850.104684.188790@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Gary S. Terhune schreef:
> >
> >> What model is the drive? Do you have USB 2.0 capability on that
machine?
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have the Toshiba ( PX1266E-1G25 ) 250 GB. USB 2.0 is no problem.
> > Works with Sandisk and Nikon stuff.
> >
> > The fact is it recognizes a new device as i beleive "USB 2.0 + Hdd" or
> > something, i will check this tonight. Then it wants a driver. Isn't
> > there a driver from a previous Toshiba USB drive when 98 was still
> > supported i can use?
> >
> > Greatings
> >
>
>

Shoulda figured that would be the case, that Maxtor now has drives that are
only for Win2K/XP (and Vista, I presume.) Thanks for the clarification.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Cagey Bee" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:45252896@news.greennet.net...
> RE: Maxtor External Hard Drives
>
> The Maxtor Personal Storage 3100 series supports Windows 98 and above. The
> newer Personal Storage 3200 series only supports Win2000 and XP. Make sure
> you get the right drive if you want to use it with Win98.
>
> Kevin
>
>
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:eExjWBu5GHA.4616@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Get your money back. Toshiba doesn't bother to provide *any* drivers for
>> that drive, depending instead on the native drivers in Win 2000 and XP
> (and
>> presumably, Vista.) Everywhere I look, the product specs specifically
> state
>> "OS Required -- Windows 2000 or XP". Toshiba's own site lists no drivers.
>>
>> I've always had good luck with Maxtor external HDs. Just make sure that
>> they're using USB2. On USB 1, the timing apparently causes problems that
>> Windows interprets as file system issues, corruption, etc. Scandisk, et
> al,
>> will proceed to mangle the data if you let them. At least, I've seen that
>> happen, even in XP (but using USB1).
>>
>> Regardless of what model you choose next, if it doesn't say right on the
> box
>> that Win98SE is supported, then write down the model number(s), then go
> home
>> and thoroughly research them before making your purchase. Or do what I
> do --
>> research the models online before going out, or even make the purchase
>> online.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>
>> "mega" <megaprutser@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1159859850.104684.188790@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> > Gary S. Terhune schreef:
>> >
>> >> What model is the drive? Do you have USB 2.0 capability on that
> machine?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> Gary S. Terhune
>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I have the Toshiba ( PX1266E-1G25 ) 250 GB. USB 2.0 is no problem.
>> > Works with Sandisk and Nikon stuff.
>> >
>> > The fact is it recognizes a new device as i beleive "USB 2.0 + Hdd" or
>> > something, i will check this tonight. Then it wants a driver. Isn't
>> > there a driver from a previous Toshiba USB drive when 98 was still
>> > supported i can use?
>> >
>> > Greatings
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Gary S. Terhune schreef:

> Get your money back. Toshiba doesn't bother to provide *any* drivers for
> that drive, depending instead on the native drivers in Win 2000 and XP (and
> presumably, Vista.) Everywhere I look, the product specs specifically state
> "OS Required -- Windows 2000 or XP". Toshiba's own site lists no drivers.
>
> I've always had good luck with Maxtor external HDs. Just make sure that
> they're using USB2. On USB 1, the timing apparently causes problems that
> Windows interprets as file system issues, corruption, etc. Scandisk, et al,
> will proceed to mangle the data if you let them. At least, I've seen that
> happen, even in XP (but using USB1).
>
> Regardless of what model you choose next, if it doesn't say right on the box
> that Win98SE is supported, then write down the model number(s), then go home
> and thoroughly research them before making your purchase. Or do what I do --
> research the models online before going out, or even make the purchase
> online.
>
> --
>
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
>
> "mega" <megaprutser@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1159859850.104684.188790@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Gary S. Terhune schreef:
> >
> >> What model is the drive? Do you have USB 2.0 capability on that machine?
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have the Toshiba ( PX1266E-1G25 ) 250 GB. USB 2.0 is no problem.
> > Works with Sandisk and Nikon stuff.
> >
> > The fact is it recognizes a new device as i beleive "USB 2.0 + Hdd" or
> > something, i will check this tonight. Then it wants a driver. Isn't
> > there a driver from a previous Toshiba USB drive when 98 was still
> > supported i can use?
> >
> > Greatings
> >

Thanks guys, i will get it back to the shop.

Greatings, thanks again

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> Shoulda figured that would be the case, that Maxtor now has drives that are
> only for Win2K/XP (and Vista, I presume.) Thanks for the clarification.
>

Thanks and I also appreciate the information. BTW, Gary the Sound
Blaster Audigy drivers do not yet work in Vista test version with the
beta Vista drivers. I am going to try out the XP drivers for the Sound
Blaster Audigy with the next build that Microsoft comes out with and I
will indeed do yet another clean install. My third clean install --
grin. I hope to test out some games with Vista as well as Windows Media
Player 11 with Vista. Actually, I am planning to test Office 2007 as
well but this is not nearly as interesting as the operating system to me.

--
Dan W.

Computer User