Network Places shows no computers

Dell had me update the Broadcom NIC driver to fix a problem. Soing so wiped
out all previous settings. The dual NIC card were readdressed, CEICW was
rerun, communications are back, everyone can get out, emails works, ping
works, file sharing and pinting works, DHCP works, everything seems to work
ok except that:

On server: no computers are shown under the Domain group on the server, not
even the server itself.

On clients: All clients show up under the domain group, but the server does
not show up in the domain listing

Clearly some protocol is missing on the server so it is hidden, even to
itself. I see that netbios is disableed on the Lan NIC

Since I know it will be asked for here is ipconfig/all for the server

Windows IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : SAMSON

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : hostname.lan

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes

DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : hostname.lan



Ethernet adapter Wan:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom BCM5708C NetXtreme II GigE
(NDIS VBD Client) #2

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-19-B9-B4-18-48

DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.6.19.3

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.6.19.1

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2

NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled



Ethernet adapter Lan:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom BCM5708C NetXtreme II GigE
(NDIS VBD Client)

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-19-B9-B4-18-4A

DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2

Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2

NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Hi Joe,

Maybe... 'Enable' NetBIOS over TCP/IP on the internal NIC.

--
Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
============================

"Joe" <Joe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:20E1C3CE-8957-4F21-96C4-95E85662D3E9@microsoft.com...
> Dell had me update the Broadcom NIC driver to fix a problem. Soing so
> wiped
> out all previous settings. The dual NIC card were readdressed, CEICW was
> rerun, communications are back, everyone can get out, emails works, ping
> works, file sharing and pinting works, DHCP works, everything seems to
> work
> ok except that:
>
> On server: no computers are shown under the Domain group on the server,
> not
> even the server itself.
>
> On clients: All clients show up under the domain group, but the server
> does
> not show up in the domain listing
>
> Clearly some protocol is missing on the server so it is hidden, even to
> itself. I see that netbios is disableed on the Lan NIC
>
> Since I know it will be asked for here is ipconfig/all for the server
>
> Windows IP Configuration
>
>
>
> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : SAMSON
>
> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : hostname.lan
>
> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
>
> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
>
> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
>
> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : hostname.lan
>
>
>
> Ethernet adapter Wan:
>
>
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
>
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom BCM5708C NetXtreme II GigE
> (NDIS VBD Client) #2
>
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-19-B9-B4-18-48
>
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
>
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.6.19.3
>
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.6.19.1
>
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
>
> NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
>
>
>
> Ethernet adapter Lan:
>
>
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
>
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom BCM5708C NetXtreme II GigE
> (NDIS VBD Client)
>
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-19-B9-B4-18-4A
>
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
>
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
>
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
>
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
>
> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
>
> NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
>
>

Thanks for the reply. Sorry for not getting back sooner. Just got back from a
business trip.

I enabled netbios over TCP/IP and indeed that allowed the client computers
to show up. The server was missing still. Then I found the box label
"register this connections address in DNS" unchecked. Chwcking that box then
allowed the server to be seen in the group as well.

It is amazing how easy it is to shoot yourself in the foot! You would not
expect that updating the driver for the NIC card would mess thes many things
up. I was further complicated by the fact that a new AC was installed in the
server room and apparently the worker picked up my server book with all of
the notes in it.

I am also uncertain why running the CEICW left so many things undone.
Usually that will clear up most of the problems. Correct me if I am wrong but
when setting up SBS the first time you don't have to go back and do this
manually. I had to redo DNS too!

Thanks again for your input.

Joe

"Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" wrote:

> Hi Joe,
>
> Maybe... 'Enable' NetBIOS over TCP/IP on the internal NIC.
>
> --
> Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
> ============================
>
> "Joe" <Joe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:20E1C3CE-8957-4F21-96C4-95E85662D3E9@microsoft.com...
> > Dell had me update the Broadcom NIC driver to fix a problem. Soing so
> > wiped
> > out all previous settings. The dual NIC card were readdressed, CEICW was
> > rerun, communications are back, everyone can get out, emails works, ping
> > works, file sharing and pinting works, DHCP works, everything seems to
> > work
> > ok except that:
> >
> > On server: no computers are shown under the Domain group on the server,
> > not
> > even the server itself.
> >
> > On clients: All clients show up under the domain group, but the server
> > does
> > not show up in the domain listing
> >
> > Clearly some protocol is missing on the server so it is hidden, even to
> > itself. I see that netbios is disableed on the Lan NIC
> >
> > Since I know it will be asked for here is ipconfig/all for the server
> >
> > Windows IP Configuration
> >
> >
> >
> > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : SAMSON
> >
> > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : hostname.lan
> >
> > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
> >
> > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
> >
> > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
> >
> > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : hostname.lan
> >
> >
> >
> > Ethernet adapter Wan:
> >
> >
> >
> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> >
> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom BCM5708C NetXtreme II GigE
> > (NDIS VBD Client) #2
> >
> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-19-B9-B4-18-48
> >
> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> >
> > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.6.19.3
> >
> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> >
> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.6.19.1
> >
> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
> >
> > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
> >
> >
> >
> > Ethernet adapter Lan:
> >
> >
> >
> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> >
> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom BCM5708C NetXtreme II GigE
> > (NDIS VBD Client)
> >
> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-19-B9-B4-18-4A
> >
> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> >
> > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
> >
> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> >
> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
> >
> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
> >
> > Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
> >
> > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
> >
> >
>
>
>

Right, initially the SBS setup discovers your NIC(s) and sets them up
properly. I suspect that the update you applied was a major revision of the
driver software and probably confused CEICW (and Windows 2003). Broadcom
NICs can sometimes be a pain anyway (at least with Windows 2003 SP1 and
SP2).

--
Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
============================

"Joe" <Joe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:CB68BB14-E6BF-46D5-95C3-C942C3471455@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for the reply. Sorry for not getting back sooner. Just got back
> from a
> business trip.
>
> I enabled netbios over TCP/IP and indeed that allowed the client computers
> to show up. The server was missing still. Then I found the box label
> "register this connections address in DNS" unchecked. Chwcking that box
> then
> allowed the server to be seen in the group as well.
>
> It is amazing how easy it is to shoot yourself in the foot! You would not
> expect that updating the driver for the NIC card would mess thes many
> things
> up. I was further complicated by the fact that a new AC was installed in
> the
> server room and apparently the worker picked up my server book with all of
> the notes in it.
>
> I am also uncertain why running the CEICW left so many things undone.
> Usually that will clear up most of the problems. Correct me if I am wrong
> but
> when setting up SBS the first time you don't have to go back and do this
> manually. I had to redo DNS too!
>
> Thanks again for your input.
>
> Joe
>
> "Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Hi Joe,
>>
>> Maybe... 'Enable' NetBIOS over TCP/IP on the internal NIC.
>>
>> --
>> Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
>> ============================
>>
>> "Joe" <Joe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:20E1C3CE-8957-4F21-96C4-95E85662D3E9@microsoft.com...
>> > Dell had me update the Broadcom NIC driver to fix a problem. Soing so
>> > wiped
>> > out all previous settings. The dual NIC card were readdressed, CEICW
>> > was
>> > rerun, communications are back, everyone can get out, emails works,
>> > ping
>> > works, file sharing and pinting works, DHCP works, everything seems to
>> > work
>> > ok except that:
>> >
>> > On server: no computers are shown under the Domain group on the server,
>> > not
>> > even the server itself.
>> >
>> > On clients: All clients show up under the domain group, but the server
>> > does
>> > not show up in the domain listing
>> >
>> > Clearly some protocol is missing on the server so it is hidden, even
>> > to
>> > itself. I see that netbios is disableed on the Lan NIC
>> >
>> > Since I know it will be asked for here is ipconfig/all for the server
>> >
>> > Windows IP Configuration
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : SAMSON
>> >
>> > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : hostname.lan
>> >
>> > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
>> >
>> > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
>> >
>> > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
>> >
>> > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : hostname.lan
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Ethernet adapter Wan:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
>> >
>> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom BCM5708C NetXtreme II
>> > GigE
>> > (NDIS VBD Client) #2
>> >
>> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-19-B9-B4-18-48
>> >
>> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
>> >
>> > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.6.19.3
>> >
>> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>> >
>> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.6.19.1
>> >
>> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
>> >
>> > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Ethernet adapter Lan:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
>> >
>> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom BCM5708C NetXtreme II
>> > GigE
>> > (NDIS VBD Client)
>> >
>> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-19-B9-B4-18-4A
>> >
>> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
>> >
>> > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
>> >
>> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>> >
>> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
>> >
>> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
>> >
>> > Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
>> >
>> > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>