Vista to 2003 SBS - Remote Desktop Connection Failure

Players:

1.) ThinkPad x61 w/ Vista Ultimate

2.) (x2) Xeon Quad Core Clone Build w/ SBS 2003

3.) Linksys RV016 Gateway Router (example) - Server Side

4.) Linksys WiFi Router (example - garden variety / various) - Client
Side


Problem:

Cannot RDC to our customer SBS's using Vista machines, regardless of
what make/model of gateway router employed server side. XP machines
connect flawlessly, but with Vista we get about 1/3 of the way through
the login screen and never have a chance to enter credentials.

(Tried posting a screenie here but could not get one to paste in)

Thanks,

JC

On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 08:26:16 -0800, info wrote:

> the login screen and never have a chance to enter credentials.
>
> (Tried posting a screenie here but could not get one to paste in

Another Vista gold award...

--
:-)

Why insulse comment on a technical foru oriented to SOLVE problems?
Maybe Holz needs some training on Microsoft operating systems.

Windows Vista AND new server OSs (R2's, 2008 ...) have new and far better
security performances.

To connect Vista clients you need to verify the following:

1) SBS 2003 needs to be upgraded to SP1 or R2.
2) You need to install KB article 926505 (and KB article 911829 if you
are using OWA http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=77013)
3) Upgrade User Profile WMI Provider
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=78007
4) If SBS is Premium and you are using ISA 2004, you need to upgrade ISA
server to SP2 (or SP3) and need to install (and delivery to clients) the
most recent firewall client

Gandalf

"Holz" <none@none.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:%23N$83cHXIHA.1532@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 08:26:16 -0800, info wrote:
>
>> the login screen and never have a chance to enter credentials.
>>
>> (Tried posting a screenie here but could not get one to paste in
>
> Another Vista gold award...
>
> --
> :-)

"info@phxnet.com" wrote:

> Players:
>
> 1.) ThinkPad x61 w/ Vista Ultimate
>
> 2.) (x2) Xeon Quad Core Clone Build w/ SBS 2003
>
> 3.) Linksys RV016 Gateway Router (example) - Server Side
>
> 4.) Linksys WiFi Router (example - garden variety / various) - Client
> Side
>
>
> Problem:
>
> Cannot RDC to our customer SBS's using Vista machines, regardless of
> what make/model of gateway router employed server side. XP machines
> connect flawlessly, but with Vista we get about 1/3 of the way through
> the login screen and never have a chance to enter credentials.
>
> (Tried posting a screenie here but could not get one to paste in)
>
> Thanks,
>
> JC
>

Hi JC,

I am having a very similar issue. I can get as far as the blue screen, but
no login box on the client. My XP machines also connect without any
problems. I thought that my problem had to do with Norton Internet Security.
But, evidently that is not the case. I will keep on watching this thread
with the hope that someone knows what is wrong. I hope we find an answer.
Good luck.

Steve

Hello Customer,

Thank you for posting here. Let's also thank Gandalf for the good input.

According to your description, I understand that you unable to connect
external SBS thru RDP from Vista client. If I have misunderstood the
problem, please don't hesitate to let me know.

Based on my research, I suggest we try the following steps to see if we can
resolve this issue:

1. Please ensure the RDP is properly set and enabled on Vista client:

a. On the Vista client, open Control Panel, double click System

b. Click Remote settings in Task pane

c. Select "Allow connections from computers running any version of Remote
Desktop (less secure)"

d. Click OK, then test this issue.

2. If the issue persists, we can take the following steps to save the
credentials on the Vista client:

a. Click Start, enter remote desktop connection in the Start Search column.
After finding it, click it.

b. Type the external SBS IP or domain name in the Computer and click
Options.

c. Under the General tab, click Save As and put the RDP file in the
Desktop. Click Connection.

d. In the Enter your credentials window, type "SBS DOMAIN NAME\USER
ACCOUNT" in the User name then enter password.

e. Check Remember my credentials. Click OK.

f. When connecting that server next time, test the issue again.

3. Do you turn on UAC on the Vista client? If yes, please perform the
following steps to see if it help:

After you turn on User Account Control in Windows Vista, programs may be
unable to access some network locations
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/937624

Additional information for your reference:

Using Windows Vista and Outlook 2007 in a Windows Small Business Server
2003 Network
http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...1-8997-f50868c
869f5/SBSVista_Conceptual.doc

If we cannot resolve the issue after we perform the above steps, please
help me collect some information for further investigation:

1. Can you connect the SBS thru RDP from XP clients which in the same LAN
with the Vista?

2. Can you connect the XP client thru RDP from the Vista in same LAN?

3. Please capture screenshots on the RDP connection failure window and send
the pictures to me at v-terliu@microsoft.com

4. Do you get any event error on the Vista client about RDP?

5. Try to connect SBS from another Vista client, does the issue reoccur?

I hope these steps will give you some help.

Thanks and have a nice day!

Best regards,

Terence Liu(MSFT)

Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support

Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

================================================== ===
This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have issues
regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the corresponding
newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely manner.
You can locate the newsgroup here:
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...s/default.aspx

When opening a new thread via the web interface, we recommend you check the
"Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications when there are
any updates in your thread. When responding to posts via your newsreader,
please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn and benefit from your
issue.

Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread. Although we
provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean. In doing
so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.

For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly. Please
check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.

Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
================================================== ===

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

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| From: info@phxnet.com
| Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
| Subject: Vista to 2003 SBS - Remote Desktop Connection Failure
| Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 08:26:16 -0800 (PST)
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| Players:
|
| 1.) ThinkPad x61 w/ Vista Ultimate
|
| 2.) (x2) Xeon Quad Core Clone Build w/ SBS 2003
|
| 3.) Linksys RV016 Gateway Router (example) - Server Side
|
| 4.) Linksys WiFi Router (example - garden variety / various) - Client
| Side
|
|
| Problem:
|
| Cannot RDC to our customer SBS's using Vista machines, regardless of
| what make/model of gateway router employed server side. XP machines
| connect flawlessly, but with Vista we get about 1/3 of the way through
| the login screen and never have a chance to enter credentials.
|
| (Tried posting a screenie here but could not get one to paste in)
|
| Thanks,
|
| JC
|

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:05:15 +0100, Gandalf wrote:

> Why insulse comment on a technical foru oriented to SOLVE problems?
> Maybe Holz needs some training on Microsoft operating systems.

Vista is a piece of crap bloatware that should have never come out!! How
can a bunch of so many smart people come out with the biggest piece of
shit of all times? No wonder Gates is leaving..
Look at what you have to go through to connect a new client to your same
MFG OS software...We have 170 client, NON even dares upgrading, and those
who did for testing, dropped it within hours.
More secure compare to what? CEMENT? (CE. ME NT) And which one of the 6
versions? I need my pills..
Isn't it the OS Blamer said will never need an SP? And what are all Vista
users waiting on for now? SP1..
Cancel or Allow?

--
:-)

"Terence Liu [MSFT]" wrote:

> Hello Customer,
>
> Thank you for posting here. Let's also thank Gandalf for the good input.
>
> According to your description, I understand that you unable to connect
> external SBS thru RDP from Vista client. If I have misunderstood the
> problem, please don't hesitate to let me know.
>
> Based on my research, I suggest we try the following steps to see if we can
> resolve this issue:
>
> 1. Please ensure the RDP is properly set and enabled on Vista client:
>
> a. On the Vista client, open Control Panel, double click System
>
> b. Click Remote settings in Task pane
>
> c. Select "Allow connections from computers running any version of Remote
> Desktop (less secure)"
>
> d. Click OK, then test this issue.
>
> 2. If the issue persists, we can take the following steps to save the
> credentials on the Vista client:
>
> a. Click Start, enter remote desktop connection in the Start Search column.
> After finding it, click it.
>
> b. Type the external SBS IP or domain name in the Computer and click
> Options.
>
> c. Under the General tab, click Save As and put the RDP file in the
> Desktop. Click Connection.
>
> d. In the Enter your credentials window, type "SBS DOMAIN NAME\USER
> ACCOUNT" in the User name then enter password.
>
> e. Check Remember my credentials. Click OK.
>
> f. When connecting that server next time, test the issue again.
>
> 3. Do you turn on UAC on the Vista client? If yes, please perform the
> following steps to see if it help:
>
> After you turn on User Account Control in Windows Vista, programs may be
> unable to access some network locations
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/937624
>
> Additional information for your reference:
>
> Using Windows Vista and Outlook 2007 in a Windows Small Business Server
> 2003 Network
> http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...1-8997-f50868c
> 869f5/SBSVista_Conceptual.doc
>
> If we cannot resolve the issue after we perform the above steps, please
> help me collect some information for further investigation:
>
> 1. Can you connect the SBS thru RDP from XP clients which in the same LAN
> with the Vista?
>
> 2. Can you connect the XP client thru RDP from the Vista in same LAN?
>
> 3. Please capture screenshots on the RDP connection failure window and send
> the pictures to me at v-terliu@microsoft.com
>
> 4. Do you get any event error on the Vista client about RDP?
>
> 5. Try to connect SBS from another Vista client, does the issue reoccur?
>
> I hope these steps will give you some help.
>
> Thanks and have a nice day!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Terence Liu(MSFT)
>
> Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
>
> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
>
> ================================================== ===
> This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have issues
> regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the corresponding
> newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely manner.
> You can locate the newsgroup here:
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities...s/default.aspx
>
> When opening a new thread via the web interface, we recommend you check the
> "Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications when there are
> any updates in your thread. When responding to posts via your newsreader,
> please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn and benefit from your
> issue.
>
> Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread. Although we
> provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
> different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean. In doing
> so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.
>
> For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly. Please
> check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
>
> Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
> ================================================== ===
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>
> --------------------
> | From: info@phxnet.com
> | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
> | Subject: Vista to 2003 SBS - Remote Desktop Connection Failure
> | Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 08:26:16 -0800 (PST)
> | Organization: http://groups.google.com
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> |
> | Players:
> |
> | 1.) ThinkPad x61 w/ Vista Ultimate
> |
> | 2.) (x2) Xeon Quad Core Clone Build w/ SBS 2003
> |
> | 3.) Linksys RV016 Gateway Router (example) - Server Side
> |
> | 4.) Linksys WiFi Router (example - garden variety / various) - Client
> | Side
> |
> |
> | Problem:
> |
> | Cannot RDC to our customer SBS's using Vista machines, regardless of
> | what make/model of gateway router employed server side. XP machines
> | connect flawlessly, but with Vista we get about 1/3 of the way through
> | the login screen and never have a chance to enter credentials.
> |
> | (Tried posting a screenie here but could not get one to paste in)
> |
> | Thanks,
> |
> | JC
> |
>
>

See answers below...

"Terence Liu [MSFT]" wrote:

> Hello Customer,
>
> Thank you for posting here. Let's also thank Gandalf for the good input.
>
> According to your description, I understand that you unable to connect
> external SBS thru RDP from Vista client. If I have misunderstood the
> problem, please don't hesitate to let me know.
>
> Based on my research, I suggest we try the following steps to see if we can
> resolve this issue:
>
> 1. Please ensure the RDP is properly set and enabled on Vista client:
>
> a. On the Vista client, open Control Panel, double click System
>
> b. Click Remote settings in Task pane
>
> c. Select "Allow connections from computers running any version of Remote
> Desktop (less secure)"
>
> d. Click OK, then test this issue.
>
> 2. If the issue persists, we can take the following steps to save the
> credentials on the Vista client:
>
> a. Click Start, enter remote desktop connection in the Start Search column.
> After finding it, click it.
>
> b. Type the external SBS IP or domain name in the Computer and click
> Options.
>
> c. Under the General tab, click Save As and put the RDP file in the
> Desktop. Click Connection.
>
> d. In the Enter your credentials window, type "SBS DOMAIN NAME\USER
> ACCOUNT" in the User name then enter password.
>
> e. Check Remember my credentials. Click OK.
>
> f. When connecting that server next time, test the issue again.
>
> 3. Do you turn on UAC on the Vista client? If yes, please perform the
> following steps to see if it help:
TURNED IT OFF
>
> After you turn on User Account Control in Windows Vista, programs may be
> unable to access some network locations
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/937624
>
> Additional information for your reference:
>
> Using Windows Vista and Outlook 2007 in a Windows Small Business Server
> 2003 Network
> http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...1-8997-f50868c
> 869f5/SBSVista_Conceptual.doc
>
> If we cannot resolve the issue after we perform the above steps, please
> help me collect some information for further investigation:
>
> 1. Can you connect the SBS thru RDP from XP clients which in the same LAN
> with the Vista?
YES
>
> 2. Can you connect the XP client thru RDP from the Vista in same LAN?
NO --> If Vista is in the equation, total failure.
>
> 3. Please capture screenshots on the RDP connection failure window and send
> the pictures to me at v-terliu@microsoft.com
SENDING NOW
>
> 4. Do you get any event error on the Vista client about RDP?
NO
>
> 5. Try to connect SBS from another Vista client, does the issue reoccur?
YES
>
> I hope these steps will give you some help.
>
> Thanks and have a nice day!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Terence Liu(MSFT)
>
> Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
>
> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
>
> ================================================== ===
> This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have issues
> regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the corresponding
> newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely manner.
> You can locate the newsgroup here:
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities...s/default.aspx
>
> When opening a new thread via the web interface, we recommend you check the
> "Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications when there are
> any updates in your thread. When responding to posts via your newsreader,
> please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn and benefit from your
> issue.
>
> Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread. Although we
> provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
> different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean. In doing
> so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.
>
> For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly. Please
> check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
>
> Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
> ================================================== ===
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>
> --------------------
> | From: info@phxnet.com
> | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
> | Subject: Vista to 2003 SBS - Remote Desktop Connection Failure
> | Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 08:26:16 -0800 (PST)
> | Organization: http://groups.google.com
> | Lines: 24
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> |
> | Players:
> |
> | 1.) ThinkPad x61 w/ Vista Ultimate
> |
> | 2.) (x2) Xeon Quad Core Clone Build w/ SBS 2003
> |
> | 3.) Linksys RV016 Gateway Router (example) - Server Side
> |
> | 4.) Linksys WiFi Router (example - garden variety / various) - Client
> | Side
> |
> |
> | Problem:
> |
> | Cannot RDC to our customer SBS's using Vista machines, regardless of
> | what make/model of gateway router employed server side. XP machines
> | connect flawlessly, but with Vista we get about 1/3 of the way through
> | the login screen and never have a chance to enter credentials.
> |
> | (Tried posting a screenie here but could not get one to paste in)
> |
> | Thanks,
> |
> | JC
> |
>
>

"Gandalf" wrote:

> Why insulse comment on a technical foru oriented to SOLVE problems?
> Maybe Holz needs some training on Microsoft operating systems.

Because he may be really aggravated like I am that this investment is not
paying off...I can bearly do my job with Vista.

>
> Windows Vista AND new server OSs (R2's, 2008 ...) have new and far better
> security performances.

My understanding is Vista is to XP as ME was to 98.

>
> To connect Vista clients you need to verify the following:
>
> 1) SBS 2003 needs to be upgraded to SP1 or R2.

Operating system shipped in SP1/R2

> 2) You need to install KB article 926505 (and KB article 911829 if you
> are using OWA http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=77013)

NO OWA in the mix.

> 3) Upgrade User Profile WMI Provider
> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=78007

Vista Client only? (Tried and no dice on the client side only patch)

> 4) If SBS is Premium and you are using ISA 2004, you need to upgrade ISA
> server to SP2 (or SP3) and need to install (and delivery to clients) the
> most recent firewall client

Unless ISA came bundled for free with SBS 2003 then no we are not using it
on any of these sites.

Thanks a bunch Gandalf for your time on this!

JC
>
> Gandalf
>
> "Holz" <none@none.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
> news:%23N$83cHXIHA.1532@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 08:26:16 -0800, info wrote:
> >
> >> the login screen and never have a chance to enter credentials.
> >>
> >> (Tried posting a screenie here but could not get one to paste in
> >
> > Another Vista gold award...
> >
> > --
> > :-)
>
>

Hello Customer,

Thank you for your update.

1. Do you perform the step 1# in my previous reply

a. On the Vista client, open Control Panel, double click System
b. Click Remote settings in Task pane
c. Select "Allow connections from computers running any version of Remote
Desktop (less secure)"

Note: Ensure you select the above option.

d. Click OK, then test this issue.

2. If the issue persists, I think the firewall on the Vista client block
TCP 3389 port. Please try to disable windows firewall on Vista and then
test this issue:

a. On the Vista client, run command "services.msc" to open Services console
b. Find "Windows Firewall" service, right click it, select Stop
c. After windows firewall service stop, test the RDP connection.

3. Do you install any 3rd-party firewall on Vista? If yes, please uninstall
it. Then, do clean boot on Vista client to narrow down this issue:

To clean boot the problematic computer, please use the steps below:
a. Click Start, click Run, and then in the Open box, type "MSCONFIG"
(without the quotation marks). Click OK.

b. In the System Configuration Utility (MSConfig) window, click to select
the Selective Startup button.

c. Click to clear the check mark from the "Load startup items" below
Selective Startup.

d. Click the Services tab, click to check the "Hide All Microsoft Services"
box, and remove all the check marks from the remained Non-Microsoft
Services.

e. Click OK to close the MSConfig window. Click Yes when you are asked to
restart your computer in order to enable the changes.

f. After restarting, please check whether this issue will reoccur.

g. If there are no more problems, please use the above steps to enable
services and startup items one by one in order to figure out the root cause
of this issue.

If we cannot resolve the issue after we perform the above steps, please
help me collect some information for further investigation:

1. Can you connect Vista thru RDP from itself (input Vista computer name in
the Remote Desktop Connection)?

2. Can you connect Vista thru RDP from another Vista client?

3. I do not receive your screenshot, please send it again to me working
mailbox: V-terliu@microsoft.com.

4. Can you connect SBS desktop thru RWW from the IE of Vista client?

I hope these steps will give you some help.

Best regards,

Terence Liu(MSFT)

Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support

Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

================================================== ===
This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have issues
regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the corresponding
newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely manner.
You can locate the newsgroup here:
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...s/default.aspx

When opening a new thread via the web interface, we recommend you check the
"Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications when there are
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provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean. In doing
so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.

For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly. Please
check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.

Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
================================================== ===

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| Subject: RE: Vista to 2003 SBS - Remote Desktop Connection Failure
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| X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
|
| See answers below...
|
| "Terence Liu [MSFT]" wrote:
|
| > Hello Customer,
| >
| > Thank you for posting here. Let's also thank Gandalf for the good input.
| >
| > According to your description, I understand that you unable to connect
| > external SBS thru RDP from Vista client. If I have misunderstood the
| > problem, please don't hesitate to let me know.
| >
| > Based on my research, I suggest we try the following steps to see if we
can
| > resolve this issue:
| >
| > 1. Please ensure the RDP is properly set and enabled on Vista client:
| >
| > a. On the Vista client, open Control Panel, double click System
| >
| > b. Click Remote settings in Task pane
| >
| > c. Select "Allow connections from computers running any version of
Remote
| > Desktop (less secure)"
| >
| > d. Click OK, then test this issue.
| >
| > 2. If the issue persists, we can take the following steps to save the
| > credentials on the Vista client:
| >
| > a. Click Start, enter remote desktop connection in the Start Search
column.
| > After finding it, click it.
| >
| > b. Type the external SBS IP or domain name in the Computer and click
| > Options.
| >
| > c. Under the General tab, click Save As and put the RDP file in the
| > Desktop. Click Connection.
| >
| > d. In the Enter your credentials window, type "SBS DOMAIN NAME\USER
| > ACCOUNT" in the User name then enter password.
| >
| > e. Check Remember my credentials. Click OK.
| >
| > f. When connecting that server next time, test the issue again.
| >
| > 3. Do you turn on UAC on the Vista client? If yes, please perform the
| > following steps to see if it help:
| TURNED IT OFF
| >
| > After you turn on User Account Control in Windows Vista, programs may
be
| > unable to access some network locations
| > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/937624
| >
| > Additional information for your reference:
| >
| > Using Windows Vista and Outlook 2007 in a Windows Small Business Server
| > 2003 Network
| >
http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...1-8997-f50868c
| > 869f5/SBSVista_Conceptual.doc
| >
| > If we cannot resolve the issue after we perform the above steps, please
| > help me collect some information for further investigation:
| >
| > 1. Can you connect the SBS thru RDP from XP clients which in the same
LAN
| > with the Vista?
| YES
| >
| > 2. Can you connect the XP client thru RDP from the Vista in same LAN?
| NO --> If Vista is in the equation, total failure.
| >
| > 3. Please capture screenshots on the RDP connection failure window and
send
| > the pictures to me at v-terliu@microsoft.com
| SENDING NOW
| >
| > 4. Do you get any event error on the Vista client about RDP?
| NO
| >
| > 5. Try to connect SBS from another Vista client, does the issue reoccur?
| YES
| >
| > I hope these steps will give you some help.
| >
| > Thanks and have a nice day!
| >
| > Best regards,
| >
| > Terence Liu(MSFT)
| >
| > Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
| >
| > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
| >
| > ================================================== ===
| > This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have issues
| > regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the
corresponding
| > newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely
manner.
| > You can locate the newsgroup here:
| > http://www.microsoft.com/communities...s/default.aspx
| >
| > When opening a new thread via the web interface, we recommend you check
the
| > "Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications when there
are
| > any updates in your thread. When responding to posts via your
newsreader,
| > please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn and benefit from your
| > issue.
| >
| > Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread. Although we
| > provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
| > different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean. In
doing
| > so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.
| >
| > For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly.
Please
| > check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
| >
| > Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
| > ================================================== ===
| >
| > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
| >
| > --------------------
| > | From: info@phxnet.com
| > | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
| > | Subject: Vista to 2003 SBS - Remote Desktop Connection Failure
| > | Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 08:26:16 -0800 (PST)
| > | Organization: http://groups.google.com
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| > | .NET CLR 2.0.50727; Media Center PC 5.0; .NET CLR 3.0.04506; Tablet
PC
| > 2.0;
| > | InfoPath.2),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
| > | Bytes: 1853
| > | X-Original-Bytes: 1810
| > | Path:
| >
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| >
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| >
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| > .com!not-for-mail
| > | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs:87849
| > | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
| > |
| > | Players:
| > |
| > | 1.) ThinkPad x61 w/ Vista Ultimate
| > |
| > | 2.) (x2) Xeon Quad Core Clone Build w/ SBS 2003
| > |
| > | 3.) Linksys RV016 Gateway Router (example) - Server Side
| > |
| > | 4.) Linksys WiFi Router (example - garden variety / various) - Client
| > | Side
| > |
| > |
| > | Problem:
| > |
| > | Cannot RDC to our customer SBS's using Vista machines, regardless of
| > | what make/model of gateway router employed server side. XP machines
| > | connect flawlessly, but with Vista we get about 1/3 of the way through
| > | the login screen and never have a chance to enter credentials.
| > |
| > | (Tried posting a screenie here but could not get one to paste in)
| > |
| > | Thanks,
| > |
| > | JC
| > |
| >
| >
|

Performed Step #1 and I said I did this already on my first post back to you.

Would never take that much time out of my schedule to "test" Step #2 and I
will not work without third party security software.

I already wiped the machine, threw the Vista Ultimate License in the trash
and "downgraded" to XP Table Edition 2005. I do not have time to bother with
poor product craftsmanship and greedy dollar sign driven product development.
Vista is nothing short of a profit center meets stop gap measure while
Windows 7 continues to fail even candidate level testing.

This is just another example of poor product quality from Microsoft...I
truly hope that open source systems begin to destroy this product line post
Windows 7 / Server 2008.



"Terence Liu [MSFT]" wrote:

> Hello Customer,
>
> Thank you for your update.
>
> 1. Do you perform the step 1# in my previous reply
>
> a. On the Vista client, open Control Panel, double click System
> b. Click Remote settings in Task pane
> c. Select "Allow connections from computers running any version of Remote
> Desktop (less secure)"
>
> Note: Ensure you select the above option.
>
> d. Click OK, then test this issue.
>
> 2. If the issue persists, I think the firewall on the Vista client block
> TCP 3389 port. Please try to disable windows firewall on Vista and then
> test this issue:
>
> a. On the Vista client, run command "services.msc" to open Services console
> b. Find "Windows Firewall" service, right click it, select Stop
> c. After windows firewall service stop, test the RDP connection.
>
> 3. Do you install any 3rd-party firewall on Vista? If yes, please uninstall
> it. Then, do clean boot on Vista client to narrow down this issue:
>
> To clean boot the problematic computer, please use the steps below:
> a. Click Start, click Run, and then in the Open box, type "MSCONFIG"
> (without the quotation marks). Click OK.
>
> b. In the System Configuration Utility (MSConfig) window, click to select
> the Selective Startup button.
>
> c. Click to clear the check mark from the "Load startup items" below
> Selective Startup.
>
> d. Click the Services tab, click to check the "Hide All Microsoft Services"
> box, and remove all the check marks from the remained Non-Microsoft
> Services.
>
> e. Click OK to close the MSConfig window. Click Yes when you are asked to
> restart your computer in order to enable the changes.
>
> f. After restarting, please check whether this issue will reoccur.
>
> g. If there are no more problems, please use the above steps to enable
> services and startup items one by one in order to figure out the root cause
> of this issue.
>
> If we cannot resolve the issue after we perform the above steps, please
> help me collect some information for further investigation:
>
> 1. Can you connect Vista thru RDP from itself (input Vista computer name in
> the Remote Desktop Connection)?
>
> 2. Can you connect Vista thru RDP from another Vista client?
>
> 3. I do not receive your screenshot, please send it again to me working
> mailbox: V-terliu@microsoft.com.
>
> 4. Can you connect SBS desktop thru RWW from the IE of Vista client?
>
> I hope these steps will give you some help.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Terence Liu(MSFT)
>
> Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
>
> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
>
> ================================================== ===
> This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have issues
> regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the corresponding
> newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely manner.
> You can locate the newsgroup here:
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities...s/default.aspx
>
> When opening a new thread via the web interface, we recommend you check the
> "Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications when there are
> any updates in your thread. When responding to posts via your newsreader,
> please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn and benefit from your
> issue.
>
> Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread. Although we
> provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
> different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean. In doing
> so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.
>
> For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly. Please
> check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
>
> Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
> ================================================== ===
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>
> --------------------
> | Thread-Topic: Vista to 2003 SBS - Remote Desktop Connection Failure
> | thread-index: AchfnsDY1GjOmVjDTOG+mh1doGaWPQ==
> | X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 207.46.19.197
> | From: =?Utf-8?B?SkM=?= <JC@discussions.microsoft.com>
> | References:
> <0d9a6a8e-0f03-4922-a7d2-e9e11a4d50ce@z17g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>
> <tWeG3rXXIHA.7508@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl>
> | Subject: RE: Vista to 2003 SBS - Remote Desktop Connection Failure
> | Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:08:02 -0800
> | Lines: 181
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> | NNTP-Posting-Host: tk2msftibfm01.phx.gbl 10.40.244.149
> | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
> |
> | See answers below...
> |
> | "Terence Liu [MSFT]" wrote:
> |
> | > Hello Customer,
> | >
> | > Thank you for posting here. Let's also thank Gandalf for the good input.
> | >
> | > According to your description, I understand that you unable to connect
> | > external SBS thru RDP from Vista client. If I have misunderstood the
> | > problem, please don't hesitate to let me know.
> | >
> | > Based on my research, I suggest we try the following steps to see if we
> can
> | > resolve this issue:
> | >
> | > 1. Please ensure the RDP is properly set and enabled on Vista client:
> | >
> | > a. On the Vista client, open Control Panel, double click System
> | >
> | > b. Click Remote settings in Task pane
> | >
> | > c. Select "Allow connections from computers running any version of
> Remote
> | > Desktop (less secure)"
> | >
> | > d. Click OK, then test this issue.
> | >
> | > 2. If the issue persists, we can take the following steps to save the
> | > credentials on the Vista client:
> | >
> | > a. Click Start, enter remote desktop connection in the Start Search
> column.
> | > After finding it, click it.
> | >
> | > b. Type the external SBS IP or domain name in the Computer and click
> | > Options.
> | >
> | > c. Under the General tab, click Save As and put the RDP file in the
> | > Desktop. Click Connection.
> | >
> | > d. In the Enter your credentials window, type "SBS DOMAIN NAME\USER
> | > ACCOUNT" in the User name then enter password.
> | >
> | > e. Check Remember my credentials. Click OK.
> | >
> | > f. When connecting that server next time, test the issue again.
> | >
> | > 3. Do you turn on UAC on the Vista client? If yes, please perform the
> | > following steps to see if it help:
> | TURNED IT OFF
> | >
> | > After you turn on User Account Control in Windows Vista, programs may
> be
> | > unable to access some network locations
> | > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/937624
> | >
> | > Additional information for your reference:
> | >
> | > Using Windows Vista and Outlook 2007 in a Windows Small Business Server
> | > 2003 Network
> | >
> http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...1-8997-f50868c
> | > 869f5/SBSVista_Conceptual.doc
> | >
> | > If we cannot resolve the issue after we perform the above steps, please
> | > help me collect some information for further investigation:
> | >
> | > 1. Can you connect the SBS thru RDP from XP clients which in the same
> LAN
> | > with the Vista?
> | YES
> | >
> | > 2. Can you connect the XP client thru RDP from the Vista in same LAN?
> | NO --> If Vista is in the equation, total failure.
> | >
> | > 3. Please capture screenshots on the RDP connection failure window and
> send
> | > the pictures to me at v-terliu@microsoft.com
> | SENDING NOW
> | >
> | > 4. Do you get any event error on the Vista client about RDP?
> | NO
> | >
> | > 5. Try to connect SBS from another Vista client, does the issue reoccur?
> | YES
> | >
> | > I hope these steps will give you some help.
> | >
> | > Thanks and have a nice day!
> | >
> | > Best regards,
> | >
> | > Terence Liu(MSFT)
> | >
> | > Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
> | >
> | > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
> | >
> | > ================================================== ===
> | > This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have issues
> | > regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the
> corresponding
> | > newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely
> manner.
> | > You can locate the newsgroup here:
> | > http://www.microsoft.com/communities...s/default.aspx
> | >
> | > When opening a new thread via the web interface, we recommend you check
> the
> | > "Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications when there
> are
> | > any updates in your thread. When responding to posts via your
> newsreader,
> | > please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn and benefit from your
> | > issue.
> | >
> | > Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread. Although we
> | > provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
> | > different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean. In
> doing
> | > so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.
> | >
> | > For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly.
> Please
> | > check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
> | >
> | > Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
> | > ================================================== ===
> | >
> | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.
> | >
> | > --------------------
> | > | From: info@phxnet.com
> | > | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
> | > | Subject: Vista to 2003 SBS - Remote Desktop Connection Failure
> | > | Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 08:26:16 -0800 (PST)
> | > | Organization: http://groups.google.com
> | > | Lines: 24
> | > | Message-ID:
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> | > 16:26:17 GMT)
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> | > | NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:26:17 +0000 (UTC)
> | > | Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
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> | > | User-Agent: G2/1.0
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> | > SLCC1;
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> PC
> | > 2.0;
> | > | InfoPath.2),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
> | > | Bytes: 1853
> | > | X-Original-Bytes: 1810
> | > | Path:
> | >
> TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSF TFEEDS02.phx.gbl!newsfeed0
> | >
> 0.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nn tp.dca
> | >
> .giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.co m!z17g2000hsg.googlegroups
> | > .com!not-for-mail
> | > | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs:87849
> | > | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
> | > |
> | > | Players:

Hello Customer,

Thank you for your update.

I'm sorry that I did not help you to find the root cause of this issue.

Generally speaking, I think this issue is cause by improper configuration
or 3rd-party software on the Vista, because the Vista unable to RDP to XP
client in the same LAN. Additional, your issue is a individual problem, it
is not the Vista quality issue. I use Vista as my working computer since
Vista launch. I need RDP to the SBS 2003 test machine Every day. But I
never got any error about RDP.

Since you use XP instead of Vista now, we unable to continue
troubleshooting this issue, I will close this thread.

Thanks for your understanding.

Have a nice day.

Best regards,

Terence Liu(MSFT)

Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support

Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

================================================== ===
This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have issues
regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the corresponding
newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely manner.
You can locate the newsgroup here:
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...s/default.aspx

When opening a new thread via the web interface, we recommend you check the
"Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications when there are
any updates in your thread. When responding to posts via your newsreader,
please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn and benefit from your
issue.

Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread. Although we
provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean. In doing
so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.

For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly. Please
check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.

Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
================================================== ===

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

--------------------
| Thread-Topic: Vista to 2003 SBS - Remote Desktop Connection Failure
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| Subject: RE: Vista to 2003 SBS - Remote Desktop Connection Failure
| Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 13:23:00 -0800
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| Performed Step #1 and I said I did this already on my first post back to
you.
|
| Would never take that much time out of my schedule to "test" Step #2 and
I
| will not work without third party security software.
|
| I already wiped the machine, threw the Vista Ultimate License in the
trash
| and "downgraded" to XP Table Edition 2005. I do not have time to bother
with
| poor product craftsmanship and greedy dollar sign driven product
development.
| Vista is nothing short of a profit center meets stop gap measure while
| Windows 7 continues to fail even candidate level testing.
|
| This is just another example of poor product quality from Microsoft...I
| truly hope that open source systems begin to destroy this product line
post
| Windows 7 / Server 2008.
|
|
|
| "Terence Liu [MSFT]" wrote:
|
| > Hello Customer,
| >
| > Thank you for your update.
| >
| > 1. Do you perform the step 1# in my previous reply
| >
| > a. On the Vista client, open Control Panel, double click System
| > b. Click Remote settings in Task pane
| > c. Select "Allow connections from computers running any version of
Remote
| > Desktop (less secure)"
| >
| > Note: Ensure you select the above option.
| >
| > d. Click OK, then test this issue.
| >
| > 2. If the issue persists, I think the firewall on the Vista client
block
| > TCP 3389 port. Please try to disable windows firewall on Vista and then
| > test this issue:
| >
| > a. On the Vista client, run command "services.msc" to open Services
console
| > b. Find "Windows Firewall" service, right click it, select Stop
| > c. After windows firewall service stop, test the RDP connection.
| >
| > 3. Do you install any 3rd-party firewall on Vista? If yes, please
uninstall
| > it. Then, do clean boot on Vista client to narrow down this issue:
| >
| > To clean boot the problematic computer, please use the steps below:
| > a. Click Start, click Run, and then in the Open box, type "MSCONFIG"
| > (without the quotation marks). Click OK.
| >
| > b. In the System Configuration Utility (MSConfig) window, click to
select
| > the Selective Startup button.
| >
| > c. Click to clear the check mark from the "Load startup items" below
| > Selective Startup.
| >
| > d. Click the Services tab, click to check the "Hide All Microsoft
Services"
| > box, and remove all the check marks from the remained Non-Microsoft
| > Services.
| >
| > e. Click OK to close the MSConfig window. Click Yes when you are asked
to
| > restart your computer in order to enable the changes.
| >
| > f. After restarting, please check whether this issue will reoccur.
| >
| > g. If there are no more problems, please use the above steps to enable
| > services and startup items one by one in order to figure out the root
cause
| > of this issue.
| >
| > If we cannot resolve the issue after we perform the above steps, please
| > help me collect some information for further investigation:
| >
| > 1. Can you connect Vista thru RDP from itself (input Vista computer
name in
| > the Remote Desktop Connection)?
| >
| > 2. Can you connect Vista thru RDP from another Vista client?
| >
| > 3. I do not receive your screenshot, please send it again to me working
| > mailbox: V-terliu@microsoft.com.
| >
| > 4. Can you connect SBS desktop thru RWW from the IE of Vista client?
| >
| > I hope these steps will give you some help.
| >
| > Best regards,
| >
| > Terence Liu(MSFT)
| >
| > Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
| >
| > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
| >
| > ================================================== ===
| > This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have issues
| > regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the
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| > different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean. In
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| > so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.
| >
| > For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly.
Please
| > check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
| >
| > Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
| > ================================================== ===
| >
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| > | Thread-Topic: Vista to 2003 SBS - Remote Desktop Connection Failure
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| > | Subject: RE: Vista to 2003 SBS - Remote Desktop Connection Failure
| > | Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:08:02 -0800
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| > |
| > | "Terence Liu [MSFT]" wrote:
| > |
| > | > Hello Customer,
| > | >
| > | > Thank you for posting here. Let's also thank Gandalf for the good
input.
| > | >
| > | > According to your description, I understand that you unable to
connect
| > | > external SBS thru RDP from Vista client. If I have misunderstood
the
| > | > problem, please don't hesitate to let me know.
| > | >
| > | > Based on my research, I suggest we try the following steps to see
if we
| > can
| > | > resolve this issue:
| > | >
| > | > 1. Please ensure the RDP is properly set and enabled on Vista
client:
| > | >
| > | > a. On the Vista client, open Control Panel, double click System
| > | >
| > | > b. Click Remote settings in Task pane
| > | >
| > | > c. Select "Allow connections from computers running any version of
| > Remote
| > | > Desktop (less secure)"
| > | >
| > | > d. Click OK, then test this issue.
| > | >
| > | > 2. If the issue persists, we can take the following steps to save
the
| > | > credentials on the Vista client:
| > | >
| > | > a. Click Start, enter remote desktop connection in the Start Search
| > column.
| > | > After finding it, click it.
| > | >
| > | > b. Type the external SBS IP or domain name in the Computer and
click
| > | > Options.
| > | >
| > | > c. Under the General tab, click Save As and put the RDP file in the
| > | > Desktop. Click Connection.
| > | >
| > | > d. In the Enter your credentials window, type "SBS DOMAIN NAME\USER
| > | > ACCOUNT" in the User name then enter password.
| > | >
| > | > e. Check Remember my credentials. Click OK.
| > | >
| > | > f. When connecting that server next time, test the issue again.
| > | >
| > | > 3. Do you turn on UAC on the Vista client? If yes, please perform
the
| > | > following steps to see if it help:
| > | TURNED IT OFF
| > | >
| > | > After you turn on User Account Control in Windows Vista, programs
may
| > be
| > | > unable to access some network locations
| > | > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/937624
| > | >
| > | > Additional information for your reference:
| > | >
| > | > Using Windows Vista and Outlook 2007 in a Windows Small Business
Server
| > | > 2003 Network
| > | >
| >
http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...1-8997-f50868c
| > | > 869f5/SBSVista_Conceptual.doc
| > | >
| > | > If we cannot resolve the issue after we perform the above steps,
please
| > | > help me collect some information for further investigation:
| > | >
| > | > 1. Can you connect the SBS thru RDP from XP clients which in the
same
| > LAN
| > | > with the Vista?
| > | YES
| > | >
| > | > 2. Can you connect the XP client thru RDP from the Vista in same
LAN?
| > | NO --> If Vista is in the equation, total failure.
| > | >
| > | > 3. Please capture screenshots on the RDP connection failure window
and
| > send
| > | > the pictures to me at v-terliu@microsoft.com
| > | SENDING NOW
| > | >
| > | > 4. Do you get any event error on the Vista client about RDP?
| > | NO
| > | >
| > | > 5. Try to connect SBS from another Vista client, does the issue
reoccur?
| > | YES
| > | >
| > | > I hope these steps will give you some help.
| > | >
| > | > Thanks and have a nice day!
| > | >
| > | > Best regards,
| > | >
| > | > Terence Liu(MSFT)
| > | >
| > | > Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
| > | >
| > | > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
| > | >
| > | > ================================================== ===
| > | > This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have
issues
| > | > regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the
| > corresponding
| > | > newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely
| > manner.
| > | > You can locate the newsgroup here:
| > | > http://www.microsoft.com/communities...s/default.aspx
| > | >
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| > are
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| > | > please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn and benefit from
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| > | > issue.
| > | >
| > | > Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread.
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| > | > provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
| > | > different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean.
In
| > doing
| > | > so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.
| > | >
| > | > For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly.
| > Please
| > | > check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone
numbers.
| > | >
| > | > Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
| > | > ================================================== ===
| > | >
| > | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
| > rights.
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