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Old 12-06-2005
Carsten Beckermann
 
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WSUS: Very slow download from Updates from Microsoft

Hello

By Testing the new WSUS on a new installed machine the updates have to be
downloaded from Microsoft through the internet.

This is very, very slow. In three days there are only 1.100 MB down. 10.000
MB left...

Have i forgotten some options or are the responsible
Microsoft-Download-Servers permanently overload by a lot of much, much
users?

I installed the SUS months ago on another machine. It downloaded the updates
very fast.

Server Software is on both machines a Windows 2000 Server.

Any ideas?

Greetings
Carsten



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Old 12-06-2005
Franco König
 
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Re: Very slow download from Updates from Microsoft

Hi Carsten!

> By Testing the new WSUS on a new installed machine the updates have to be
> downloaded from Microsoft through the internet.
>
> This is very, very slow. In three days there are only 1.100 MB down.
> 10.000 MB left...
>
> Have i forgotten some options or are the responsible
> Microsoft-Download-Servers permanently overload by a lot of much, much


I have the same probelm. I must download 1480 MB, but in one day i make
maybe 40-50 MB. Whats going wrong here?

greetz

Franco König



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Old 13-06-2005
Frank
 
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Re: Very slow download from Updates from Microsoft

I'm having the same problem - how to solve ?
Frank

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Old 13-06-2005
max
 
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Re: Very slow download from Updates from Microsoft

I've had this on WUS beta, WSUS RC and WSUS RTM. Also downloading at about
50mb a day. Painfully slow.
SUS running on same server (2003sp1) doesn't suffer this problem.
Good idea to check your BITS settings to make sure it''s not being
throttled.
One poster on the beta newsgroup found that disabling Mcafee AV on his ISA
server (that doubled up as the WSUS box) resolved the problem! Not a
particularly good solution.

Max.



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Old 13-06-2005
Pierre Martineau
 
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Re: Very slow download from Updates from Microsoft

BITS uses idle system time. If your machine is too busy it'll take forever
to download. Try setting the BITS foreground bit like this:

WsusDebugTool.exe /Tool:SetForegroundDownload

pgm


"max" <max@max.com> wrote in message
news:%23GZFW55bFHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> I've had this on WUS beta, WSUS RC and WSUS RTM. Also downloading at about
> 50mb a day. Painfully slow.
> SUS running on same server (2003sp1) doesn't suffer this problem.
> Good idea to check your BITS settings to make sure it''s not being
> throttled.
> One poster on the beta newsgroup found that disabling Mcafee AV on his ISA
> server (that doubled up as the WSUS box) resolved the problem! Not a
> particularly good solution.
>
> Max.
>
>




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Old 14-06-2005
Lawrence Garvin
 
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Re: Very slow download from Updates from Microsoft

Correction, Pierre... BITS uses idle /network/ time.

If your /network/ is too busy, it'll take forever to download. :-)

The purpose of BITS is to throttle, use available, and protect in use
/bandwidth/.



"Pierre Martineau" <emu_forever@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:O2gUFm7bFHA.3400@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> BITS uses idle system time. If your machine is too busy it'll take forever
> to download. Try setting the BITS foreground bit like this:
>
> WsusDebugTool.exe /Tool:SetForegroundDownload
>
> pgm
>
>
> "max" <max@max.com> wrote in message
> news:%23GZFW55bFHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> I've had this on WUS beta, WSUS RC and WSUS RTM. Also downloading at
>> about
>> 50mb a day. Painfully slow.
>> SUS running on same server (2003sp1) doesn't suffer this problem.
>> Good idea to check your BITS settings to make sure it''s not being
>> throttled.
>> One poster on the beta newsgroup found that disabling Mcafee AV on his
>> ISA
>> server (that doubled up as the WSUS box) resolved the problem! Not a
>> particularly good solution.
>>
>> Max.
>>
>>

>
>




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Old 14-06-2005
Stefan Theobald
 
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Re: Very slow download from Updates from Microsoft

Hi,

where can I find the WsusDebugTool.exe ???
It seams not to be installed on my Drive.

Your´s
Stefan

"Pierre Martineau" wrote:

> BITS uses idle system time. If your machine is too busy it'll take forever
> to download. Try setting the BITS foreground bit like this:
>
> WsusDebugTool.exe /Tool:SetForegroundDownload
>
> pgm
>
>
> "max" <max@max.com> wrote in message
> news:%23GZFW55bFHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > I've had this on WUS beta, WSUS RC and WSUS RTM. Also downloading at about
> > 50mb a day. Painfully slow.
> > SUS running on same server (2003sp1) doesn't suffer this problem.
> > Good idea to check your BITS settings to make sure it''s not being
> > throttled.
> > One poster on the beta newsgroup found that disabling Mcafee AV on his ISA
> > server (that doubled up as the WSUS box) resolved the problem! Not a
> > particularly good solution.
> >
> > Max.
> >
> >

>
>
>


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Old 14-06-2005
Pierre Martineau
 
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Re: Very slow download from Updates from Microsoft

I understand that BITS throttles it's network usage but it's system idle
time that it uses to schedule itself. Run something simple as SETI@HOME or
some other idle time soaker and BITS all but dies Lawrence!

pgm

"Lawrence Garvin" <onsitechsolutions@news.postalias> wrote in message
news:eySiPPFcFHA.3328@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Correction, Pierre... BITS uses idle /network/ time.
>
> If your /network/ is too busy, it'll take forever to download. :-)
>
> The purpose of BITS is to throttle, use available, and protect in use
> /bandwidth/.
>
>
>
> "Pierre Martineau" <emu_forever@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:O2gUFm7bFHA.3400@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> BITS uses idle system time. If your machine is too busy it'll take
>> forever to download. Try setting the BITS foreground bit like this:
>>
>> WsusDebugTool.exe /Tool:SetForegroundDownload
>>
>> pgm
>>
>>
>> "max" <max@max.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23GZFW55bFHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>> I've had this on WUS beta, WSUS RC and WSUS RTM. Also downloading at
>>> about
>>> 50mb a day. Painfully slow.
>>> SUS running on same server (2003sp1) doesn't suffer this problem.
>>> Good idea to check your BITS settings to make sure it''s not being
>>> throttled.
>>> One poster on the beta newsgroup found that disabling Mcafee AV on his
>>> ISA
>>> server (that doubled up as the WSUS box) resolved the problem! Not a
>>> particularly good solution.
>>>
>>> Max.
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>




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Old 14-06-2005
Pierre Martineau
 
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Re: Very slow download from Updates from Microsoft

It's on the WSUS beta place stite.

pgm

"Stefan Theobald" <StefanTheobald@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:014D4F99-98A9-48F7-855E-B7EA3ED6A19B@microsoft.com...
> Hi,
>
> where can I find the WsusDebugTool.exe ???
> It seams not to be installed on my Drive.
>
> Your´s
> Stefan
>
> "Pierre Martineau" wrote:
>
>> BITS uses idle system time. If your machine is too busy it'll take
>> forever
>> to download. Try setting the BITS foreground bit like this:
>>
>> WsusDebugTool.exe /Tool:SetForegroundDownload
>>
>> pgm
>>
>>
>> "max" <max@max.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23GZFW55bFHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> > I've had this on WUS beta, WSUS RC and WSUS RTM. Also downloading at
>> > about
>> > 50mb a day. Painfully slow.
>> > SUS running on same server (2003sp1) doesn't suffer this problem.
>> > Good idea to check your BITS settings to make sure it''s not being
>> > throttled.
>> > One poster on the beta newsgroup found that disabling Mcafee AV on his
>> > ISA
>> > server (that doubled up as the WSUS box) resolved the problem! Not a
>> > particularly good solution.
>> >
>> > Max.
>> >
>> >

>>
>>
>>




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Old 14-06-2005
Peter Lawton
 
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Re: Very slow download from Updates from Microsoft

Yes I can confirm that, BITS transfers through an ISA server with McAfee
Security Shield installed are very slow, I haven't found a fix for it yet
unfortunately.

Peter Lawton

"max" <max@max.com> wrote in message
news:%23GZFW55bFHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> I've had this on WUS beta, WSUS RC and WSUS RTM. Also downloading at about
> 50mb a day. Painfully slow.
> SUS running on same server (2003sp1) doesn't suffer this problem.
> Good idea to check your BITS settings to make sure it''s not being
> throttled.
> One poster on the beta newsgroup found that disabling Mcafee AV on his ISA
> server (that doubled up as the WSUS box) resolved the problem! Not a
> particularly good solution.
>
> Max.
>
>




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Old 14-06-2005
Steve Aldred
 
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Re: Very slow download from Updates from Microsoft

"Pierre Martineau" <emu_forever@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:OS38YNHcFHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl:

> It's on the WSUS beta place stite.
>
> pgm
>
> "Stefan Theobald" <StefanTheobald@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:014D4F99-98A9-48F7-855E-B7EA3ED6A19B@microsoft.com...
>> Hi,
>>
>> where can I find the WsusDebugTool.exe ???
>> It seams not to be installed on my Drive.
>>
>> Your´s
>> Stefan
>>
>> "Pierre Martineau" wrote:
>>
>>> BITS uses idle system time. If your machine is too busy it'll take
>>> forever to download. Try setting the BITS foreground bit like this:
>>>
>>> WsusDebugTool.exe /Tool:SetForegroundDownload
>>>
>>> pgm
>>>
>>>


Since that site is probably down now, it would be better to use the RTM
version at
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserv.../downloads/def
ault.mspx

Steve

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