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Old 05-11-2008
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Printing to local XP machine from program on Server 2008

I have a server in Iowa running Server 2008 (x64) and my local machine in Maryland runs XP. I connect to the server through Remote Desktop as I need to access a program on it. I'm having trouble setting up my local printer to print items directly from the server. The printer is setup for use on my local network, and I've entered all the IP and port info I can find to enable it for the server, yet still nothing works. Any help?

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Old 05-11-2008
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Re: Printing to local XP machine from program on Server 2008

So just to be clear; you're connecting to the server through the Remote
Desktop Connection Client?
And you say you can't then print to your local printer.
On your Remote Desktop client, to you have the option checked off for local
printers? To do that, after you've double-clicked on the RDP client, click
on the Options button, and then the Local Resources tab. Make sure Printers
is check off.
When you say "nothing works", does that mean you had already tried that?



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> I have a server in Iowa running Server 2008 (x64) and my local machine
> in Maryland runs XP. I connect to the server through Remote Desktop as
> I need to access a program on it. I'm having trouble setting up my
> local printer to print items directly from the server. The printer is
> setup for use on my local network, and I've entered all the IP and port
> info I can find to enable it for the server, yet still nothing works.
> Any help?
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Re: Printing to local XP machine from program on Server 2008

Yes, the print option is checked, yet it still will not work.

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Re: Printing to local XP machine from program on Server 2008

Can you describe what you mean by "it will not work"?

Do you get an error message?
Does the print job appear to go to the printer, but never prints?

After you've remoted into the server, does the printer show up in Printers
and Faxes?
If not, is it a USB printer?



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> Yes, the print option is checked, yet it still will not work.
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Re: Printing to local XP machine from program on Server 2008

The print job goes directly to the queue, where it remains, and eventually reads an Error. Upon logging into the server, the printer does not show up in Printers and Faxes, yet we have tried multiple times to add it to the list of printers (using the ip and port #s). And no, this is not a USB printer, it is connected to a switch in my office, which connects to my computer and 2 others.

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Can you describe what you mean by "it will not work"?

Do you get an error message?
Does the print job appear to go to the printer, but never prints?

After you've remoted into the server, does the printer show up in Printers
and Faxes?
If not, is it a USB printer?
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Old 06-11-2008
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Re: Printing to local XP machine from program on Server 2008

Hi

Did you try http://support.microsoft.com/kb/302361/en-us ?

ThePro

"terpsfan08" <terpsfan08.3if2rc@DoNotSpam.com> wrote:
>
> The print job goes directly to the queue, where it remains, and
> eventually reads an Error. Upon logging into the server, the printer
> does not show up in Printers and Faxes, yet we have tried multiple times
> to add it to the list of printers (using the ip and port #s). And no,
> this is not a USB printer, it is connected to a switch in my office,
> which connects to my computer and 2 others.
>
> JohnB;4062749 Wrote:
>> Can you describe what you mean by "it will not work"?
>>
>> Do you get an error message?
>> Does the print job appear to go to the printer, but never prints?
>>
>> After you've remoted into the server, does the printer show up in
>> Printers
>> and Faxes?
>> If not, is it a USB printer?
>> >

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Old 06-11-2008
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Re: Printing to local XP machine from program on Server 2008

Normally when one uses the RDP client to remote into a server and Local
Printers are being brought over, the printers that show up on the
workstation's Printers and Faxes show up in Printer and Faxes in the RDP
session. And of course, if they don't, then printing to that printer isn't
even a a possibility, you can't print to what you can't choose.

> The print job goes directly to the queue, where it remains, and
> eventually reads an Error.

So you are seeing it in the queue, in your Remote Desktop connection?

>Upon logging into the server, the printer
> does not show up in Printers and Faxes, yet we have tried multiple times
> to add it to the list of printers (using the ip and port #s).

Do you mean logging to the server locally or through Remote Desktop?
If you're logging in locally, can you ping the printer's IP address from the
server?





And no,
> this is not a USB printer, it is connected to a switch in my office,
> which connects to my computer and 2 others.
>
> JohnB;4062749 Wrote:
>> Can you describe what you mean by "it will not work"?
>>
>> Do you get an error message?
>> Does the print job appear to go to the printer, but never prints?
>>
>> After you've remoted into the server, does the printer show up in
>> Printers
>> and Faxes?
>> If not, is it a USB printer?
>> >

>
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Old 06-11-2008
Phillip Windell
 
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Re: Printing to local XP machine from program on Server 2008

"terpsfan08" <terpsfan08.3if2rc@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
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>
> The print job goes directly to the queue, where it remains, and
> eventually reads an Error. Upon logging into the server, the printer
> does not show up in Printers and Faxes, yet we have tried multiple times
> to add it to the list of printers (using the ip and port #s). And no,
> this is not a USB printer, it is connected to a switch in my office,
> which connects to my computer and 2 others.


1. The printer driver has to be loaded onto the TS Server *ahead of time*.
It needs to be the same drive that your workstation uses.

2. Some USB Printers simply just will not work. With USB printers it is a
"crap shoot" as to if it will work or not. In my experience the HP LaserJet
1505 (which is USB only) is one such example.

My expeirience with the HP LaserJet 1300 & 1320, I had to physically carry
the printer over to the Server, plug in the USB, let the plug-n-play install
the printer in the normal way. Then I unplugged the printer,...deleted the
printer (the driver always stays behind, deleting the printer does not
delete the driver). Took the printer back to the user. The 1505 would not
respond using this method (or any other method) and I eventually gave up on
the 1505.

I then found out how to add just a Driver to the OS without the printer
present by using "File-->Server Properties" from the Printers and Faxes
windows,...but it made no difference with the 1505. The 1505 would print
fine locally from the server when attached directly to it, but would never
properly redirect when the printer was local to the user.

It is very possible that others here have had other better or worse
experiences,..but those things are what I experienced.

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Old 06-11-2008
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Re: Printing to local XP machine from program on Server 2008

A printer with a DOT4 interface is one of those multi-function devices.....
printer/fax/scanner, etc. And they're always USB. He mentioned that it
isn't USB.



"ThePro" <mcthepro@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi
>
> Did you try http://support.microsoft.com/kb/302361/en-us ?
>
> ThePro
>
> "terpsfan08" <terpsfan08.3if2rc@DoNotSpam.com> wrote:
>>
>> The print job goes directly to the queue, where it remains, and
>> eventually reads an Error. Upon logging into the server, the printer
>> does not show up in Printers and Faxes, yet we have tried multiple times
>> to add it to the list of printers (using the ip and port #s). And no,
>> this is not a USB printer, it is connected to a switch in my office,
>> which connects to my computer and 2 others.
>>
>> JohnB;4062749 Wrote:
>>> Can you describe what you mean by "it will not work"?
>>>
>>> Do you get an error message?
>>> Does the print job appear to go to the printer, but never prints?
>>>
>>> After you've remoted into the server, does the printer show up in
>>> Printers
>>> and Faxes?
>>> If not, is it a USB printer?
>>> >

>>
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Old 06-11-2008
Phillip Windell
 
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Re: Printing to local XP machine from program on Server 2008

"ThePro" <mcthepro@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi
>
> Did you try http://support.microsoft.com/kb/302361/en-us ?


Interesting.
I'll have to try that later on that 1505 I had trouble with. I didn't know
you could switch them to and LPT port,..I thought it would just quit working
if you did that since the machine (typically now-a-days) doesn't have a
"real" LPT.

Is the registry entry mentioned go on the TS "server" or on the Client that
is connecting? Is this entry not required if you switch to LPT,...I assume
it is for when you can't or don't want to switch it to LPT.

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Old 06-11-2008
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Re: Printing to local XP machine from program on Server 2008

John, I tried the link you sent, and the server now recognizes the printer, however it still sends the print to the queue, and then errors out. Let me reiterate, this is a network printer connected to a hub, it is the HP Laserjet 2550n. Do I need to install server 08 drivers for the printer on my XP machine? I didn't think I needed to do this, but should I?

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Re: Printing to local XP machine from program on Server 2008

Ok, so it is a network printer (ethernet) not USB.

I didn't send you that link, that was from ThePro.

These were my last questions. It's difficult to help further without
knowing that information:

Normally when one uses the RDP client to remote into a server and Local
Printers are being brought over, the printers that show up on the
workstation's Printers and Faxes show up in Printer and Faxes in the RDP
session. And of course, if they don't, then printing to that printer isn't
even a a possibility, you can't print to what you can't choose.

> The print job goes directly to the queue, where it remains, and
> eventually reads an Error.

So you are seeing it in the queue, in your Remote Desktop connection?

>Upon logging into the server, the printer
> does not show up in Printers and Faxes, yet we have tried multiple times
> to add it to the list of printers (using the ip and port #s).

Do you mean logging to the server locally or through Remote Desktop?
If you're logging in locally, can you ping the printer's IP address from the
server?




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> John, I tried the link you sent, and the server now recognizes the
> printer, however it still sends the print to the queue, and then errors
> out. Let me reiterate, this is a network printer connected to a hub, it
> is the HP Laserjet 2550n. Do I need to install server 08 drivers for
> the printer on my XP machine? I didn't think I needed to do this, but
> should I?
>
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Old 06-11-2008
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Re: Printing to local XP machine from program on Server 2008

Please read carefully the links before you reply.

The title is "Printers That Use Ports That Do Not Begin With COM, LPT, or
USB Are Not Redirected in a Remote Desktop or Terminal Services Session", so
it applies to printers with ports that begins with IP.

ThePro

"JohnB" <jbrigan@yahoo.com> wrote:
>A printer with a DOT4 interface is one of those multi-function devices.....
>printer/fax/scanner, etc. And they're always USB. He mentioned that it
>isn't USB.
>
>
>
> "ThePro" <mcthepro@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23quhR63PJHA.1148@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Hi
>>
>> Did you try http://support.microsoft.com/kb/302361/en-us ?
>>
>> ThePro
>>
>> "terpsfan08" <terpsfan08.3if2rc@DoNotSpam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> The print job goes directly to the queue, where it remains, and
>>> eventually reads an Error. Upon logging into the server, the printer
>>> does not show up in Printers and Faxes, yet we have tried multiple times
>>> to add it to the list of printers (using the ip and port #s). And no,
>>> this is not a USB printer, it is connected to a switch in my office,
>>> which connects to my computer and 2 others.
>>>
>>> JohnB;4062749 Wrote:
>>>> Can you describe what you mean by "it will not work"?
>>>>
>>>> Do you get an error message?
>>>> Does the print job appear to go to the printer, but never prints?
>>>>
>>>> After you've remoted into the server, does the printer show up in
>>>> Printers
>>>> and Faxes?
>>>> If not, is it a USB printer?
>>>> >

>>>
>>>
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>>> terpsfan08
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> terpsfan08's Profile: http://forums.techarena.in/members/terpsfan08.htm
>>> View this thread:
>>> Printing to local XP machine from program on Server 2008
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>>

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Old 06-11-2008
ThePro
 
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Re: Printing to local XP machine from program on Server 2008

Hi,

This registry modification does not switch the printer to LPT, it redirects
it in the RDP session even though its port name does not begin with LPT, USB
or COM.

The registry hack is done on the client computer, and since it is in the
HKEY_CURRENT_USER hive you must do it for each user on the machine.

ThePro

"Phillip Windell" <philwindell@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "ThePro" <mcthepro@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23quhR63PJHA.1148@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Hi
>>
>> Did you try http://support.microsoft.com/kb/302361/en-us ?

>
> Interesting.
> I'll have to try that later on that 1505 I had trouble with. I didn't know
> you could switch them to and LPT port,..I thought it would just quit
> working if you did that since the machine (typically now-a-days) doesn't
> have a "real" LPT.
>
> Is the registry entry mentioned go on the TS "server" or on the Client
> that is connecting? Is this entry not required if you switch to LPT,...I
> assume it is for when you can't or don't want to switch it to LPT.
>
> --
> Phillip Windell
> www.wandtv.com
>
> The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or
> Microsoft,
> or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
> -----------------------------------------------------
>
>



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Old 06-11-2008
ThePro
 
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Re: Printing to local XP machine from program on Server 2008

Hi,

The statement below is right, but there is 2 things to keep in mind for the
local printers to redirect in the RDP session:

- The port name must begin by LPT, USB or COM (except if you apply KB302361)
- The printer driver must exist on the Terminal Server. If it is not
included in Windows, you must add it manually. If the driver is missing you
will get an event 1111 in the server's system event log with the name of the
missing driver.

ThePro

"JohnB" <jbrigan@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Normally when one uses the RDP client to remote into a server and Local
> Printers are being brought over, the printers that show up on the
> workstation's Printers and Faxes show up in Printer and Faxes in the RDP
> session. And of course, if they don't, then printing to that printer
> isn't even a a possibility, you can't print to what you can't choose.



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