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    AMD Phenom II X6 1055T and 1090T BE

    Introduction

    Almost to the day one year ago, AMD introduced the Phenom X4 955 in the package probably the best desktop processor, the company with the green logo on the market. The period up to now have been used for many improvements. Not only the improved performance, but also addressed the problem child, compared to the competition is always something higher power consumption. The result is before you today: the AMD Phenom Black Edition II X6 1090T. In desktop processors with six cores, although only one second, but it will offer them the first time at a price below 300, respectively, even under 200 €. Whether the models Phenom worth X6 1090T Black Edition 3.2 GHz and the small offshoot 1055T 2.8 GHz compared to the previous quad-core models, we will examine in detail. We take a look at separately, of course, the new Turbo mode by AMD, which allows for applications that support fewer seeds, a speed boost of up to 500 MHz more clock.


    Overview

    The new AMD processor, code-named "Thuban" is a giant. On a desktop CPUs for the current time record-breaking area of 346 mm ² houses the manufacturer (probably) 904 million transistors. Also, the repeated demand advanced AMD is not out with accurate information. Yes, the six-core processor is based on the "Istanbul" server processor, but has experienced various optimizations, says the company. But whether it directly "Lisbon" is, would not confirm it. Likewise, it makes the number of transistors officially a secret. The area consists of six cores, each with 512 KB L2 cache, which a shared L3 cache of 6MB in size as fast as the latch to the side. In principle, so it's a quad-core processor of the type II Phenom X4, which was "simply" added two cores including L2 cache.


    For today's launch of two models come with six cores on the market. The rumor mill had previously by two other processors, reported something, also there should be a branch with four cores and turbo type. These are sometimes postponed significantly, it is from nearby vendor circles.

    Besides the six cores impressive increase is to be sought primarily in the area of power consumption. With the same TDP as of today can operate a Phenom II X6 permanently at 3.2 GHz, which six months ago was just for four cores. A brand new stepping of the type "E0" contributes to the "Thuban", among other things to this. We should beat the smaller Lynnfield processors both in performance and in price: The aim of the tenth and twelfth week of this year and made templates so brand new processors, the computer base is defined by AMD clear. The flagship enters directly against the Core i7-860, a 2.8 GHz speed quad-core processor on. What at first glance an unequal duel, is quickly. Because the "Lynnfield," acted with a strong turbo, thanks to HyperThreading can fly eight threads for applications and also knew otherwise been in the area of performance to convince. There was also a low power consumption, which could not compete with current AMD CPUs. The "Thuban" is on the point exactly these points where it was so far behind to attack.


    "Turbo CORE" technology

    Besides the six cores, the most important innovation in the AMD desktop segment is in this spring's "Turbo CORE" technology. This ensures that each half of the available processor cores by 400 to 500 MHz respectively, base frequency is increased. In the same breath, the remaining seeds to a minimum of 800 MHz to be clocked down. For this, each played with the voltage, which is solved from AMD clever. While the default voltage of our test model in the form of the flagship 1090T Black Edition Phenom II X6 at just under 1.3 volts, is clocked up the half of the nuclei in the turbo mode and therefore requires up to 1.45 volts. The others are meanwhile set to the Cool'n'Quiet mode and up to 800 MHz clocked down. They operate with a voltage of 1.2 volts. What seeds to use the turbo is also completely independent. Each core can be up to the maximum overclock Turbo - depending on such as the operating system manages the threads. As a prerequisite for the AMD-Turbo mode only needs a BIOS update for the motherboard are available. This BIOS should include at least version 3.6.6.0 of AMD Generic Encapsulated Software Architecture (AGESA). This collection of micro code contains all the important information to the processors, which begins with the number of cores continues over the stepping and revision, and finally includes the Turbo feature.

    The version 3.6.6.0 is only the foundation, which provides up to date that can handle especially older boards with the six-core processor, including Turbo. This includes our used M4A79T Asus Deluxe is a based on the AMD 790FX chipset, which is already on version 3.6.9.0 AGESA. These boards allow the beginning but virtually no setting options - work it must simply what is in Windows but can be detected very easily. One of the new AMD 890FX boards is already on AGESA 3.7.0.0. The BIOS of our Asus Crosshair Formula IV, thanks to the latest update allows all sorts of possibilities for adjusting the said technology. Apart from the easy activation and deactivation of the turbo-mode 'to see that even self in his place. For this you can determine the multiplier of the processor in Turbo mode itself, which is due to a Phenom Black Edition II X6 1090T with free choice of multiplier is a snap. And since this is true for the mode range up and down, so each can be smaller model of the Phenom II X6 easily simulate accurately.

    For the small taste we have some tests from our course decoupled. This shows in the form of the classic single-threaded application "lame" that are possible thanks to significant increases in Turbo. Also show the differences, because the flagship is the one core only an increase of 400 MHz along the way, the smaller offshoots least 500 MHz in addition. At the end, therefore, in this model is 13 percent faster performance on paper.


    If you mix the image with applications that benefit from more cores, or the latest games at high resolution, the result is virtually no advantage anymore. This finding is important and shows that you can not compare the turbo mode by AMD and Intel can. Because Intel's Turbo ignite even with load on all cores and still have them, such as the Core i7-870, permanent 266 MHz clock with more under way.

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    Re: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T and 1090T BE

    New Chipsets

    After nearly 2.5 years, the high-end range of experiences is an update in the field of chip sets. The 890FX chip is replacing as the 790FX north bridge, the SB850 also keeps feeding into the segment. This is particularly interesting, but it offers native Support for SATA 6 Gb / s. When high-end 890FX chipset you meet a lot of things again that we know already from the 790FX. A total of 42 lanes to ensure that we can address two graphics cards with full x16 lanes, or, if you want to try to four graphics solutions that are powered electrically, each with eight lanes. New to the 890FX Northbridge is the virtualization function IOMMU 1.2, which will initially only be found in this chipset. The 890FX chipset as its predecessor, still manufactured in 65 nm TSMC. The TDP specification provides for a maximum of 19.6 watts front, which is well below the previous quarter. Together with the SB850 Southbridge, which is also manufactured in 65 nm, whose predecessor is still taken up in 130 nm, to some can save energy.

    In addition to the high-end offshoot of the two 890FX chipset 880G and 870 reinforce the portfolio. The 880G chipset is it the third within a year, based on the Radeon HD 4200th It differs from the 890GX and the 785G again only by the beat of the integrated graphics. The AMD 870 waived, however the graphics solution and is designed for beginners systems. It offers up one PCI Express slot, which is supplied with full 16 lanes. The Board is responsible partners if they want to pair the cheaper chipsets with the SB850. As an alternative solution could also be offered with the previous SB710. The recent suspected in weeks SB810 South Bridge is as yet a mere wishful thinking.


    Test System

    Nearly 60 processors, has seen our test system last year, time to sort out the older models and start a new beginning with a new platform. We have resorted to many suggestions from readers, we have received in recent months. The biggest change over previous year is therefore in the graphics solution, which comes from an immediate Radeon HD 5870 from MSI is used. This map is characterized by a very low energy demand in idle, delivers when it is needed, but enough performance. Besides the necessary components for each platform, as different motherboards, power supply remains the "80 Plus Silver" certification, the same. Also, the "Cooler Master Stacker RC-832" continues to use with its two integrated 120 mm fans to provide a fair and realistic comparison between the counterparty and simultaneously encountering any thermal problems of the counterparty.

    As operating system we put in the new edition of Windows 7 in the 64-bit version, like the other software used look, see section benchmarks broken. All other details are to the test system is the following:

    • AMD
      • AMD Phenom II X6 1090T - 3.20 GHz, 3 MB L2 cache, 6 MB L3 cache, HT 2.0 GHz (E0 Thuban)
      • AMD Phenom II X6 1055T - 2.80 GHz, 3 MB L2 cache, 6 MB L3 cache, HT 2.0 GHz (E0 Thuban)

    • Intel
      • Intel Core i7-980X Extreme Edition - 3.33 GHz, 1.5 MB L2 cache, 12 MB L3 cache, FSB 6.4 GHz (Harpertown B1)

    • Quad-Core
      Intel
      • Intel Core i7-975 Extreme Edition - 3.33 GHz, 1 MB L2 cache, 8 MB L3 cache, 6.4 GHz FSB (Bloomfield D0)
      • Intel Core i7-960 - 3.20 GHz, 1 MB L2 cache, 8 MB L3 cache, 4.8 GHz FSB (Bloomfield D0)
      • Intel Core i7-870 to 2.93 GHz, 1 MB L2 cache, 8 MB L3 cache (Lynnfield B1)
      • Intel Core i7-860 - 2.80 GHz, 1 MB L2 cache, 8 MB L3 cache (Lynnfield B1)
      • Intel Core i5-750 - 2.66 GHz, 1 MB L2 cache, 8 MB L3 cache (Lynnfield B1)
      • Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 - 2.83GHz, 12MB L2 cache, FSB1333 (Yorkfield C1)
      • Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 - 2.33 GHz, 4 MB L2 cache, FSB1333 (Yorkfield R0)
      • Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 - 2.40 GHz, 8 MB L2 cache, FSB1066 (Kentsfield G0)

      AMD
      • AMD Phenom X4 Black Edition 965 - 3,40 GHz, 2 MB L2 cache, 6 MB L3 cache, HT 2.0 GHz (Deneb C3)
      • AMD Phenom X4 925 to 2.80 GHz, 2 MB L2 cache, 6 MB L3 cache, HT 2.0 GHz (Deneb C2)
      • AMD Athlon X4 620 to 2.60 GHz, 2 MB L2 cache, HT 2.0 GHz (Propus C2)

    • Motherboard

      AMD
      • Asus M4A79T Deluxe (AMD 790FX + SB750) - Socket AM3 - Revision 1.01G - BIOS 2205 (28 October 2009), BIOS 3004 (12 March 2010) for Phenom II X6
      • Asus Crosshair Formula IV (AMD 890FX + SB850) - Socket AM3 - Revision 1.02G - BIOS 0602 (9 April 2010)
      • Asus M4A89GTD Pro/USB3 (AMD 890GX + SB850) - Socket AM3 - Revision 1.01G - BIOS 1301 (April 12, 2010)


      Intel
      • Asus P6T Deluxe (Intel X58 chipset) - Base 1366 - Revision 1.02G - BIOS: 2004 (January 28, 2010)
      • P7P55D Asus (Intel P55 chipset) - Base 1156 - Revision 1.02G - BIOS: 1207 (7 December 2009)
      • Asus P5E3 Premium (Intel X48 chipset) - LGA775 Socket - Revision 2.00g - BIOS 0803 (May 21, 2009)

    • Memory

      • 2x 2048 MB OCZ Platinum DDR3-1333 (CL7-7-7-20-1T, 1.50 Volt, Dual-Channel)
      • 3 x 2,048 MB DDR3-1066 OCZ Platinum (CL7-7-7-20-1T, 1.50 Volt, Triple-Channel)
      • 2x 2048 MB OCZ Platinum DDR3-1066 (CL7-7-7-20-1T, 1.50 Volt, Dual-Channel)

    • Video Card
      • MSI Radeon HD 5870, 40nm, 1024 MB GDDR5, reference clock

    • Power Supply
      • Cooler Master UCP 700W

    • CPU coolers
      • Noctua NH-U12P with NF-P12 fan

    • Driver Versions
      • ATi Catalyst 9.11
      • Intel Chipset Driver 9.1.1.1020

    • Software
      • Microsoft Windows 7 64-bit
      • Microsoft DirectX 11

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    Benchmarks

    In addition to the newly designed from the ground test system, we have also carried the benchmark course an update. Still, some theoretical tests of the party, as they usually are one step further than any real application. There are new features that have found a place in processors, first tested in their performance. Since these theoretical tests use the user on the PC but not much, we are also many practical applications for help. These are now the main variety of multimedia applications, but also everyday things like packaging of files. Rounding out the test a few games. The test track, we have divided on this point. Once we rate the games in low resolution at high details with no quality-enhancing agents (AA / AF), the second part uses the currently most used resolution of 1,680 x 1,050 pixels and is the performance, as in actual use at least quadruple AA / AF on the agenda. As is customary in the past, each benchmark is performed several times to meet with any outliers in performance can. This happens in almost all applications, unfortunately, more often than expected, both the negative and the positive direction. The average of the five tests (excluding extreme outliers) is then transferred to the individual diagrams.

    • Theoretical tests

      • 3DMark Vantage 1:01
      • Cinebench R10
      • SiSoftware Sandra 2010.1.16.11
      • x264 HD Benchmark 3:01
      • WinRAR 3.91 (integrated testing)
      • wPrime 2:00

    • Applications
      • Autodesk 3ds Max 2010 features for 3ds Max 9 SPECapc "
      • Lame 3.98.2
      • MainConcept H.264/AVC Pro 1.6.1
      • Paint.NET 3.36 with PDNBench 3:20
      • PCMark Vantage 1:01
      • SPECjvm2008 (Java Virtual Machine Benchmark)
      • TrueCrypt 6.3a
      • WinRAR 3.91 (real pack)

    • Games
      • Anno 1404, full version, patch 1.01
      • Armed Assault 2 (ArmA II "), full version, patch 1.03
      • Call of Duty 2, full version, delivery status
      • Colin McRae: DiRT 2, full version, delivery status
      • Far Cry 2, full version, delivery status, built-in benchmark
      • Resident Evil 5, Benchmark Version

    • Other Required Tools
      • CPU-Z 1:54
      • Core Temp 0.99.5
      • Fraps 3:03
      • Prime95 25.11



    3DMark Vantage

    After the veteran 3DMark06 a few years under his belt and is therefore not only the graphics become a little dusty but looks beyond the CPU limit for fast graphics card is more noticeable, it was high time for a successor. The Finnish company Futuremark has accordingly after a long wait, the 3DMark Vantage on the market, which had been programmed in advance for the Direct3D 10 API. However, since this too a few months ago, we take the benchmark only in the course, because the results can also understand for everyone at home soon.



    WinRAR

    Although 7-Zip is free and superior in terms of compression rate many competitors, the software comes in terms of distribution does not come to WinRAR, in the form of RAR for DOS and Windows 3.1 is available. Meanwhile, WinRAR is indeed in a position next to zip and other formats such as 7z to extract, for example, to compress are only rare and zip available. Since WinRAR 3.60 now offers the popular Packer Multi-core support. It should be noted is the program that with each new version and faster processors is all a little bit faster and more compressed, so that the projection of 7-Zip has been reduced considerably. The program, version 3.91 has to bring in this section, the integrated test behind them, the part for the practical application is presented in a separate section.



    Games

    Call of Duty 2

    Just over two years, Ward was Infinity with "Call of Duty 4 - Modern Warfare" new genre standards and published a real top seller, the general public was, and most reviews extremely good evaluation points was able to in. No wonder then that the publication of the sequel to several months in advance hit huge waves. Overall, the successor is ultimately exactly what one might expect to begin with: A game that has filled the large footprints due. We use the first mission of the second act, "Wolverine", for an analysis of performance on current processors.



    Colin McRae: DiRT 2

    This new racing game is one of the first applications that are shaping the DirectX 11 era on the PC. Codemaster content builds on previous DiRT, which focuses more so on off-road races with various vehicles, rather than a pure rally implementation as in the original titles in the series. It makes the game fun and looks like hell thanks to the latest graphics support also really good. We use the built-in benchmark feature in several passes on a route in the Moroccan desert for a long 100 seconds, because the more accurate can the ups and downs of a course on long, sweeping sandy roads full of smoke or the interior of a city represented by narrow streets.



    Far Cry 2

    Although the well-known predecessor, Far Cry is still by the German company Crytek (Crysis and Crysis Warhead now) are developed, the brand UbiSoft Far Cry has not abandoned, but developed a second part, even if the original with the game no longer has much in common. Remained the same, albeit not quite as high, however, is a very good technique that Africa can appear in a polished finish. This UbiSoft with Dunia has designed a new engine that is on the current state of the art. We use the built-in Far Cry 2 benchmark tool and testing the game with the small-flyby sequence.



    Performance Rating

    In our rating as we break down in recent years from and after the different ranges on. In the final rating to flow as usual, only tests in the areas of application and games, all other segments will be issued separately. First, we present here the result which has the highest content of reality, so all applications and games in a resolution of 1,680 x 1,050 pixels. In parallel, we give but also the rating, which in revealing more in the future when the applications remain virtually the same, but games will continue to optimize not only graphics but also on CPUs. Therefore, there flows the games in low resolution with no AA / AF. Finally, for all areas (applications, games) in low and high resolution, and summarizes the theoretical tests and issued separately.


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    Power consumption

    The power is in our test track are given for the entire system. In this discipline, all power-saving characteristics of the platforms are in use, which includes Cool'n'Quiet, EIST, C1E and other things. Thanks to the modern 40-nm graphics card, which in the idle also a very low power requirements, in some cases significantly lower values than in years previously permitted, even if one combines the fastest processors with the currently best single-GPU graphics. In the test under full load, the processors we rely on the good old Prime95 in the latest version. Indicating the Voltcraft meter at the end directly at the outlet, we are losing in the following diagrams.


    What's new chipset team 890FX/890GX + SB850 saves on power consumption is amazing (the old Phenom X4 965 in the C3-Stepping is in this environment to a value that is up to 30 watts under the old platform). The new six-core processor arranged just above the previous model - the same TDP-class from the respect that is expected to be fit. The value may not impress at first glance, but, it is given 50 percent more seeds but certainly - are particularly as the overall efficiency of the platform increased compared to the former situation, because the Lynnfield not far away, but it is a direct duel eye to eye now.


    Overclocking

    Six cores to overclock promises so some performance improvements and a processor with selectable multiplier for this course, as always an easy game. And if the E0 stepping can put in new structures still gained a lot more? Even if the voltage at first looks very high, the new Phenom II X6 could we expect in the test significantly more than the older models. were up to 1.60 volts pure CPU power with respect to temperature with excellent air cooling is no problem - this creates the processor, with increases in various other tensions BIOS, also stable 4.2 GHz on six cores. The turbo technology should be disabled for these experiments, however, because once again 0.15 volts more for less active nuclei are slowly but regarded as critical.

    As usual, a higher processor clock is rewarded primarily on theoretical tests and applications, while games depend almost only on the graphics card. Is it the processor voltage properly, you can even pull rods but also doubled from the socket:


    Justify a 20 percent performance improvement in applications and any profit margin in games almost doubled power consumption of the CPU? This question is answered in a clear no. As usual, the already very high overclocking CPUs bred in our view not useful.


    Value rating

    We have picked out the current selling prices for all processors in the test represented at the cheapest online retailers and captured in a snapshot. As with the overview is the famous motto: If a processor in the price, it is moved in the chart above and its rating increased as a result. For this price / performance ratio, the overall rating is divided by the price and multiplied by 1,000. The result then represents the performance that is, rounded replaced, this time for one euro. We expressly point out again that can change the price of processors every day, so a permanent correctness of the list can not be guaranteed. Traditionally, the field is led by the competitive two-core processors, which have taken in recent weeks, however, company with three and four cores to do so. The Athlon with two, three or four cores and for introductory prices of 50 to 70 euros lead the statistics confident - even at the current rising CPU prices. As is often illustrated by the chart that you get a very high basic performance for a very low price. After that, the spiral slowly upward - slide the processors in the rating decreases significantly. AMD's six-core with views on the Core i7 Intel to launch very well there.



    Performance-Power Rating

    In the last CPU test , we had introduced this rating because it has many readers wanted to. It is still in testing status, because you can just take into account many variables in this discipline. We decided as a power input for the final performance rating, because there the power is shown, which offer the processors in the entire system as well. Since this happened under appropriate load, we set the maximum power as a reference point. As an example, the Core 2 Quad Q9550, which ends in our performance rating of 81.1 percent. At eye level of performance is 80.4 percent and the core i5 661, so that in this point there is almost a tie. What decides now is the power consumption. The Core i5-661 draws a maximum of 119 watts under full load of our complete system significantly less than the Core 2 Quad Q9550, which consumes a maximum of 178 watts.

    What you already could read between the lines in advance, pointing to that rating. The 32-nm processors deliver a good performance and low consumption pushes them in the discipline in front. The competitors are all processors from Intel, however, until the second half of the AMD processors are in the spotlight. On request, we give the maximum performance from today compared to the idle value. There, however, the error rate is much higher since, for example, the chosen motherboard affects much more. If it does, for example, five watts difference, from 150 watts under full load with only a negligible fraction. In only 60 watts at idle, the factor was, however, a significantly greater role.


    Conclusion

    After AMD has used the last year to shorten the gap to its major competitors Intel, the manufacturer engages in this year. With the AMD Athlon X6 rush into the section at the level of the fast 4-core Core i7 Nehalem-based (the new flagship AMD Phenom Black Edition II X6 1090T, the self-imposed target, the Core i7-860 defeat, decision with a split second advantage in the fact to himself) and who knows, as always in the price to convince. In the overall package of the AMD Athlon X6 in the 1055T's internal six-core duel at the end like better. His performance is only slightly below that of the flagship, but this will cost nearly 50 percent more. The Phenom II X6 1055T other hand, have the fastest quad-core processor in its own house in its place and attack while the core i5-750. In applications allows the six-core processor, the two rivals are playing in games he loses due to its lower clock but in some cases significantly.

    The much-publicized Turbo mode by AMD is a nice gimmick and will certainly be drawn from marketing sympathetic advice, but the benefits in the real world is very limited. On paper or in theory testing, everything looks rosy when the X6 1055T here and there over 500 MHz are available. But our entire test setup is already designed for the modern age and the use of multiple processor cores that this turbo function of AMD in the final statement is hardly visible. For the first attempt by the company in this field but certainly not a bad solution. Intel CPUs are known to have even a year, used to went with the "Lynnfield" the previous best solution to the Turbo Start. Precisely because of this feature is the fastest quad-core Core i7 at Lynnfield-based, the 870 for the Phenom II X6 1090T on this day as to the performance at the end then continue in most areas, a number too big. On paper, he offers only 2.93 GHz, but his turbo is also active in all active nuclei with a gain of 266 MHz. Intel's first 6-core, the Core i7 Extreme Edition 980X ("Harpertown"), plays with a price of 800 € but also one another in some cases significantly higher performance remains in a league of its own.

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