Windows XP- 24online client: Networking blues
I have an ethernet (NIC) based Internet connection from myISP, Hathway in Chennai.
The ISP uses a Network management software called elitecore 24online on the gateway server. There is a client called 24online client that I use on my primary desktop to authenicate and connect myself to the ISPs network.
Now I am trying to set up a ad-hoc wireless between the Desktop and my Laptop to share the Internet connection and for file sharing but ran intto some major issues.
The ad-hoc network and file sharing worked fine when I set-it up, however as soon as I installed the 24online client on the desktop, the network connectivity between the desktop and the laptop disappeared. I wasn't able to ping the laptop frm the desktop and vice-versa. (The Internet connection worked ine)
Then i unistalled the 24online client frm the desktop and restarted it , and pinging/ file sharing started working again.
Next I tried installing the 24online client on the laptop, and I was able to log in to the ISPs server..With the desktop acting as the gateway. I was able to get internet connectivity on bot h the machine. However, file sharing stopped working and ping between the laptop and desktop also stopped (Surprisingly, Internet was accessible on both)
Any pointers how to resolve this issue.
OS: Win XP home on both machines.
NIC IP: 192.168.2.15 (Static) (on the desktop)
ISP authentication server/gateway: 192.168.2.1
USB Wireless adapter IP: 192.168.0.1 (static) (on the desktop)
Wireless adapter IP (on laptop): DHCP assigned (ususally 192.168.0.210)
No authentication client (24online) on either machine: File sharing works, ping works, ping from both machines to ISP gateway works.
Authentication client on Desktop only: Desktop connected to Internet but no ping, no Internet, no file sharing on laptop
Authentication client on Laptop only: Internet available on both machines (by logging on ISP server thru laptop) but no file sharing, no ping between the desktop and laptop.
the 24online CLient contains a Firewall Machanism in it. As soon as u intall the 24online CLient it Binds the Specific NIC its connected from -- binds it for the Bandwidth --up & down -- & blocks tcp & udp Requests -- in - & out so ur Machine is not Visible to the Outside LAN
I have been with this software for 4 years now -we are ISP's Ourselves using this ;) -- just one thing --- if its blocking ur internal Network -- disable the internal Network Card b4 u install 24 online.
For safey reasons we recommend using Class B (172.16.xxx.xxx) Ip's to ur ISP -- cos normally the internal Nets are configured with 192.168.0.xxx Class C
If ur ISP isnt Willing to Do this (which normally he WOnt) that try using Class B ip's for ur internal Networks with the Subnet 255.255.0.0.
This will help keep 2 Different Gateways so the ARP Routing isnt Confused.
hey mehar:check ur PM!
Thanks a Lot...Let mer try this out as soon as I reach home today.
Let me try your suggestion of using a class B IP (say 172.16.1.1)
Since Windows DHCP supports only class C IpS, i think I will have to manually configure the Laptop IP to say 172.16.1.2
AM sure this is worth a try.....
100 % it will work-- provided u uninstall the 24online -- clean the Registry off it -- search occurence of 24online & Elitecore & cyberoam & delete them. Delete the Folder it was instld in. THen most imp is u configure ur BASE network Properly. check the Pings -- both outer & inner.
If ur Using XP then right Click both the Nics & Click Repair - this Flushes the ARP Cache which is Crucial. then Read the post Again & when u get both Pings write for 5 mins & After 2-3 Reboots(must chk for 2--3 Reboots). Then install 24online
If that goes well -- just Post it went Right or not
thanks again meher.....
I tried your steps and have almost got it right....
- I uninstalled 24online client
-cleaned the registry
-configured the network with internal network with class B private UPs
- Flushed the ARP cache
- 3 reboots
- Installed a local copy of the client (build 1.3.1) on desktop (gateway)
- logged and behold :--) everythng works fine
- Next restart of the desktop and my client started an automatic download of the new version without even asking..cancel also didn't work
- After installing the new version, it forced a reboot andd after the reboot, the internal network stopped working again,,,,:-(
Right now, i have uninstalled the new version...reinstalled the old one and logged in...so right now, am enjoying a wireless net connection on my bed along with music streamed off the desktop hard disk(Sharing si working):-)
But when I''ll restart my desktop, it'll be back to this problem again :-(
Any idea how I can stop this auto download and forced update?
(wish i cld rep u though)
do one thing.install the client restart the pc then disable your internal network loggon to the internet using the client enable your internal network that's it u can share the internet connection.it works for me
but this means i'll need to do it every time....
I mean I can leave the desktop on all nght but need to switch it off before leaving for office,....
If i do it this way, this'd mean:
-Come back in evening....
-switch on PC-
-restart and diable internal network
-install cliennt and login
- Enable internal network
Whew......once in awhile, guess it's ok,,,,,but everyday :-O
You dont need to uninstall and Install the client everytime.. just need to disable and enable your home network as techmaster suggested
Aces, u r missing the crux of the problem,
Say if i do as techmaster said, this is what'll happens:
I switch off my desktop in a working state....
When i restart it the next time around, the @#$% client will bind itself to the external LAN NIC and cut it off from the wireless one
u missed some Text in my Post
Abhi -- first let ur External Connection setup-- & the Cyberoam Setup-- dont Toucht the internal NIC. but u did the Opposite.
Plus -- did u change the Subnets of both the Networks -- that is the most important. else after the Reboot 24 online will start binding all nics to its Subnet thinking it as a Bridge.
Meher, I actuall tried doing that in the reverse order too.....Also I used a class B internal network with a subnet mask of 255.255.0.0
See, the current situation is that I am able to share files and share the Internet too, but only via logging in thru the Laptop....My dsktop that acts as a gateway had to be completely cleaned off the client to manage this...
Basically I have an old version of cyberoam (184.108.40.206) that I have installed on the laptop....That allows me to do sharing....
However, when I install this version on the desktop , it automatically downloads a newer version (220.127.116.11) that screws up all the settings....
if ur elite Server expects u to Use the Newer Version- -u cant Help it -- its theBase Code of the 24 online..
there is no Solution rather than looking for DSL/ADSL which donw use these stupid sofware
well....thanks for all the help meher...really appreciated that...unfortunately, I have paid my ISP in advance fotill March so guss i am stuck with them till then a t least....
As of now, I can share my connection though only if i keep both the machines if i want to access the net....there's no way i can just switch on my desktop and log on to the net directly frm there.....
Guess i'll have to live with tis for a while
Thanks a Lot! Most other ppl on the forum never bothered to reply!
Its better to :shutup: than talk rubbish.....applies to some important person in the forum ;)
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