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| Word 2003 crashes - novice question
XP Home, Office Pro 2003 (obtained from TechSoup through Microsoft donation program, so no support without paying a steep charge). Word crashes soon after opening. Other apps work OK (Excel, etc.). Started today. Coincidentally(?) PC was shut down last night with USB thumb drive inserted, may have had a Word document open at the time. The PC is used by my boss and she's not sure what was open or not open on the drive. PC was turned on this morning with the drive still in it with black screen message to remove and press any key etc. Event log shows errors starting only since this morning. Event ID 1000 - Faulting application winword.exe, version 11.0.8106.0, stamp 44f8a192, faulting module ophc_ui.dll, version 1.2.7.0, stamp 42b77c20, debug? 0, fault address 0x0003ae8f. For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp. The knowledge base link yields no info. Tried "detect and repair" with no success. Tried System Restore to three different recent days, dates in bold, "system checkpoint" - "System Restore Failed". What can I do next? Try repairing from the Office 2003 CD? |
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Actually Excel is now crashing too. Guess I willl have to reinstall Office and then get the 200 or so necessary updates again. Ah, Microsoft. . . Uninstalled with CD. Reinstalled with CD "successfully". Installed all updates online. STILL CRASHES on opening! |
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| Can anyone help?
Tried "repair and detect" from CD - "successful". Still crashes. Tried "reinstall" from CD - "successful". Still crashes. Excel seems stable but Word and Publisher crash on both of the user accounts. Can anyone help? |
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| Re: Can anyone help?
try a few things and report your findings back to us: in normal mode hold down the ctrl key and click open one of the office programs until you get a message about the key you are pressing. see how the program works afterwards. then go into safemode and see how the office program works in there too. then go into safemode w/networking and see how the office program works in there as well? |
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| Re: Can anyone help?
THANK YOU FOR RESPONDING. It's XP Pro, not Home, if it makes a difference. With the control key pressed, I opened Word. Message - " Word has detectedthat you are holding down CTRL key. Do you want to start Word in safe mode?" Chose yes. Program opened and crashed - "Microsoft Word has encountered a problem. . . sorry for inconvenience. . ." etc. After starting in Safe Mode - seems to work fine! Same in Safe mode with networking. I won't be able to get back to the PC till tomorrow but thanks so much for responding. |
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| To Clarify
Not sure if the last post was clear. Word still crashes except when the PC is started in safe mode or safe mode with networking. I guess tomorrow I will be looking for some conflict that only occurs in normal mode - ? |
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I meant to rate your post at 2/25/2007 3:26 PM PST as helpful, but what I did was click "yes" the post answered my question. Sorry about that. Try Search for and Rename ALL "normal.dot" files to notmal.OLD and then start Word to recreate. (make sure you look in System and Hidden folders) |
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| Re: To Clarify further
ok, so if word starts ok in safemode, then we now know there is a third party driver in the normal mode environment. here are a few things i would do to eliminate some of the causes. There are others afterwards, if these do not work. first, go back into safemode as this is a safe environment to do the tweaking. in safemode, go ahead and temporarily disable your startups. These are programs that are pre started and one of them may be hampering office. To do this go to start, run and msconfig. Then in the startup tab, disable all of them. You can enable them later. Next open word again and check to see that it is not trying to access the internet automatically. I don't recall the exactly how but basically go to tools, preference and drill down the options and look for something like "services". Somewhere there will be an option to check for something or another on the internet.... Next, simply double check that your page file / virtual memory is not set to low. Windows is pretty good at managing pagefile except when it gets too low. Set it with a custom size of min 2 and max 1152. then reboot the system into normal mode, be sure your internet connection is turned off and launch word. see what happens.... |
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First, let me say I'm sorry for the delayed response. I'm at the mercy of the office staff as to when I'm able to access the PCs. I disabled the startups in Safe Mode. I couldn't find any clear way to stop Word from accessing the internet automatically but I took the PC off the network and also unchecked "update automatic links at open" in Tools|Options|General. The page file was already set to intial 744 max 1488 so I left it there. Still closes shortly after opening in Normal Mode. Besides Word, Access, Publisher, and PowerPoint all crash shortly after opening, either when clicking on something or before anything is attempted. Only Excel seems stable. To my inexperienced mind, the Safe Mode success implies a conflict from outside Office(?) but might there be a way to more thoroughly remove any corrupted elements associated with Office?. I uninstalled and reinstalled using the CD; maybe Add/Remove might be better? Or some other method or utility? |
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Thanks for the response, Bob. Sorry for my delayed response but the PC's user (my boss) was not able to let me back to it right away. I tried your suggestion with no success. Also, most if not all of the other Office programs crash too. I wonder if the flash drive left in the PC during shutdown and startup could be a cause or just a coincidence? |
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removing the thumb drive may be the answer. Has the thumb drive been used as a direct storage target from the problematic applications? set you pagefile/virtual memory to custom size of min 2 and max 1152 reboot and retry.... |
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I am - it's NOT good usenet "netiquette" to post in HTML - as I said, there are MANY news readers (and most regulars USE news readers not the web interface that you use) that can't read HTML..... Please refrain from posting HTML - many news readers won't see it.... |
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| Re: To Clarify further
if Microsoft wants to implement a text format limitation for their newsgroup, then they can make an update. however, it's all good |
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| Re: To Clarify further
if Microsoft wants to implement a text format limitation for their newsgroup, then they can make an update. Nothing to do with Microsoft - just stop posting in HTML and use PLAIN TEXT.....apart from anything else, it buggers up the quoting.... |
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i can understand your problem. however, if there is non microsoft programs that are unable to read my information, then i am not concerned that my replies are not readiable by them.... similarly, if i cannot read their postings because my microsoft products can't translate their data for me, then i doesn't bother me as well.... |
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