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| Office 2007 Crashing on Vista 64-bit?
We have several workstations running Vista Business 64-bit with 8GB RAM. These workstations primarily run SolidWorks 2009, which is a CAD program, but also run Office Small Business 2007. All OS & Office updates are applied from the Microsoft Update website. This website: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/com...ites&os=32-bit Shows that Office 2007 is compatible with 64-bit Operating Systems, and is Vista certified. However, since installing on Vista 64-bit (it was installed as a fresh install of both the OS and Office, not an upgrade), Office has been nearly unusable. Powerpoint, Excel, and Word all crash (this morning Powerpoint would crash simply when trying to add text to a slide) randomly and often. Outlook crashes almost every time it is used. Opening attachments, sending email, and even just closing the application (yes, I said closing the application!) all cause it to crash. Has anyone run into this before? Any suggestions as to how to resolve this issue? |
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| RE: Office 2007 Crashing on Vista 64-bit?
We have the same exact configuration and the same problem - random crashes. We also have problems in Solidworks being slow or crashing. The files are of course very large and being pulled across Gigabit Ethernet and our tests indicate the speed of the network is not to blame. We took extreme care to setup all the workstations identically and made sure they did not have unnecessary 3rd party garbage that could foul things up. After much tinkering and tests, talks with Solid Experts, there are really only a couple things that we think it could be. 1. Some things in Vista business 64 simply require modifying write permissions to certain directories and/or running as an admin user 2. We also think or symantec real time scan is doing something funky to the files when it copies to a temp folder over the network. I wonder if these two things are at all related - out of curiosity, what AV software are you running, and how do you have it configured? We are testing shutting off the real time scanning to see if the problems continue. Between Solidworks not working and the random office crashes it continues to be a huge drain on productivity! Thanks for the post - I am in a way glad that other people are having the same problem - maybe we can get this figured out yet! |
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This seems to be a somewhat common problem with this configuration as I have found a couple other folks experiencing this same problem. Our users have local admin rights on their workstations. We also load our SolidWorks files from a server via a Gigabit network. SolidWorks runs locally, but the design files are on the server. We run Symantec End Point Security 11.0. We are using all features (outlook scanning, AV, etc). We have uninstalled this software (we could do that since it was just one layer in our security scheme) with no impact on the problem. One note... due to the issues we were having with SolidWorks on Win XP 32-bit, we originally deployed these Vista Bus 64-bit workstations as dedicated SolidWorks platforms. All other "administrative" apps were run on a separate PC. We had absolutely no issues with this configuration - SolidWorks ran great (again, as good as it can). The dual PC desk situation proved too cumbersome, however, so we combined the apps onto the Vista 64-bit workstations. Office 2007 has been crashing ever since. It's the only app that seems to be crashing for us, and it's all parts of Office (Excel, Word, Powerpoint, Outlook) that crash. Also, MS Office 2007 Diagnostics did find and fix one issue (no idea what it was since it doesn't tell you what it found or how it fixed it), but it has not made a difference. Thankfully, our SolidWorks 2009 installations are reasonably stable (or at least as stable as SW can be - I am convinced that this is not a well-written piece of software). We did catch a moment when the Task Mgr on one of the machines said we had 4 KB of memory available. I am not sure what "cached" means in the Vista Task Manager for memory, but it appeared that we had no free memory. Office would crash if we tried to do anything. Quitting Solidworks did not seem to free up the memory. We had to reboot the PC. We have been trying to watch the memory utilization, but it's tough for the users. Grab our phone number off our website and call me to chat - I am interested in your interactions with SolidWorks - that was going to be our next step. We are having the same problem as well. User is Local Admin Symantec 11 Office 2007 Solidworks We mostly notice the issue with Outlook. Did you guys ever hear anything from solidworks about this? We called them and they said they were unfamiliar with the problem. We have not heard from SolidWorks on this particular issue. We have several cases open with them about their 64-bit software, though. I have little confidence in their support of the product, though, since after several days of troubleshooting, their "senior" support engineer said "Well, I can't duplicate this... maybe I should try it on a 64-bit system." Meaning he had been trying to troubleshoot our 64-bit problem on a 32-bit system. We have been forced to go back to a dual-PC setup, with the SolidWorks running on a completely separate system. Painful, but still much better than having Office crash constantly. |
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| Re: Office 2007 Crashing on Vista 64-bit?
We are having similar issues. Here's what's going on here: -Open Solidworks -Create a new Assembly -Insert a part (insert component, drag/drop from explorer, feature palette/design library) -When we try to open a Microsoft Office via a shortcut it doesn't work. -Outlook fails -A logoff/login seems to fix it. Our VAR said that Solidworks and Microsoft are aware and that Microsoft is coming to Solidworks fix this...LOL...RRRRIIIIGGGGHHHTTT!!!! Can you try to replicate this. This happens on all of our machines. |
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I manage two systems with your same configuration (SW2009, Vista-64, and Office 2007). Both systems were randomly crashing Office application (XL, Word, Outlook,…). Rebooting was a temporary fix. My V.A.R. had me removing Office add-ins and performing repairs on Office to no avail. Then I stumbled across this Service record in the SW Customer Portal “S-036457” It Seems unrelated, but a quick regedit and the problem went away. Turns out the issue is not a vista or office, but an Explorer 8 and 64bit windows OS. Derek, after reading your reply I checked and IE7 is what's installed on our work stations. I made an assumption that IE8 is what came with Vista. However, S-036475 has still seems to have fixed the Issue. I’ve not had any Office related apps crash since making the change. Best regards |
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| Re: Office 2007 Crashing on Vista 64-bit?
pls contact your local SolidWorks support for help. From today there is a hotfix available that fixes the above described issues. The fix should solve these problems : Microsoft Office 2007 crashing on Windows Vista x 64 with Solidworks installed. Randomly, not reproducable crashes occur in Excel 2007 , Outlook 2007 and Word 2007. |
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