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Old 21-04-2012
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XFX Radeon HD 6870 vs. EVGA GeForce GTX 560
  

I am planning to build a system and that too for the first time , now I am new in this so I need help of you people here , I have done and bought everything that is needed to build the PC except the Graphic which is giving me a hard time , not that I haven?t done my research , I did some finding on the card and then shorted the list to the two gpu that I have mentioned and that would be the XFX Radeon HD 6870 and the EVGA GeForce GTX 560. So guys I need help here , I have got the two mail from the eBay stating the XFX Radeon HD 6870 will be available in above 129 $ and next day I again got the mail that stayed the will be available in above 149 $. I know the EVGA GeForce GTX 560 better then the XFX Radeon HD 6870 but is it worth to buy can you tell me if ye why . is there anyone here can help me on this I will be really appreciating this

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Re: XFX Radeon HD 6870 vs. EVGA GeForce GTX 560

The XFX Radeon HD 6870 XXX dual fan is next to a slight overclock on primarily by the built-in cooler solution. This cools the card much better, but still audible under load. In desktop mode, it is also not silent, can be regulated by software but sharply downwards. Through the good work of setting a lower temperature values would have been desirable. A 25 MHz higher clock chip may also be adjusted for the standard version, so that we would recommend the slightly cheaper version with the dual cooling solution and the standard clock from XFX. The cooling solution is not perfect, and to use for silent systems with their own adjustments, but significantly better than the stock cooler. Due to the small fee of only € 10 compared to the cheapest standard model, this is a compromise solution for users who want to stay free of charge in an even higher potent cooling solution. The accessory is made of a surprisingly low. Namely, no adapter for the video connections are provided for the power plug. A door hanger made from cardboard is the only accessory. On this, a number is to register the product. The tutorial is as usual very general and almost any graphics card can be resolved, but is somewhat larger than the competition. the card is to be operated cooler and quieter. It is therefore a bit higher, but with about 24 centimeters, as long as a standard HD 6870th The two 6-pin power connectors are positioned on top of the card. At 36 ? C in desktop mode and 60 ? C under load, the graphics card is actually much cooler than a standard HD 6870th

At least 28% of the rotational speed of the fans are still easily audible, and thus suitable depending on the sensitivity or perhaps just not for a silent system. Under load, they turned in the test for up to 57% and were significantly noticeable. Through the good temperature values, the fan speed by software can be customized. The card could run so well with only 10% in desktop mode. With a little patience can be a suitable and quieter setting to find out under load. However, this depends built by the housing, so that we can give no precise recommendation.

The power consumption under load confirmed this suspicion. With the XFX model of our test system takes at least 5 watts more than with the reference model (309 instead of 304 watts). For a given consumption of the card from AMD alone of 151 watts at least a deviation of 3.3 percent. At idle, the test system is content with the XFX Radeon HD 6870 as the reference map with 148 watts.
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Re: XFX Radeon HD 6870 vs. EVGA GeForce GTX 560

The XFX Radeon HD 6870 Black Edition, welcome in our test lab. This variant is also equipped with a send-XFX's cooler that holds not only numerous aluminum fins and thick heatpipes, but is driven primarily by two 70 mm fans. Under the hood, tinkers BartsXT a fast chip, which is also done with even higher clock speeds his services. During the 40-nm GPU operates at 940 MHz speed, it brings the 1024 MB of GDDR5 video memory to 2300 MHz. By comparison, the reference model from AMD sees just before clock speeds of 900 or 2100 MHz. Also included is the XFX shows not just economically . The XFX Radeon HD 6870 is based on AMD's Barts GPU, which runs in 40-nm process at TSMC from the tape and puts it in a total of 1.7 billion transistors. Contrary to rumors at that time built the cluster AMD's Barts GPU not, but sat still on the 5D-proven design. In comparison to the direct predecessors, the ATI Radeon HD 5870, but it reduced the number of stream processors. Came to the Evergreen branch still 1600 stream processors (320 5D) were used on the AMD Radeon HD 6870 only 1120 stream processors (224 5D) remained. They are divided into 14 SIMD units and continues to host one quad-TMU, so too the number of texture units had to be revised downwards. Instead of 80 texture units, there are now only 56 such units. In the video memory, however, everything remained the same. Thus found a total of eight 128-Mbyte chips place on the PCB and are dominated by four 64-bit controllers. Overall, the fast GDDR5 chips communicate so with 256 data lines. At each memory controller also eight grid amplifiers are coupled, so the AMD Radeon HD 6870 can score points with 32 ROPs. By default, this model assumes 900 2100 MHz, respectively. XFX Radeon HD 6870 turned in its Black Edition, however, at the stroke screw and work with chip and memory of his latest series increase with 940/2300 MHz. The maximum heat that the XFX's proprietary dual-fan cooler has to pay is so little above the 151 watts, which are specified by AMD.
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Re: XFX Radeon HD 6870 vs. EVGA GeForce GTX 560

  • EVGA GeForce GTX 560 comes with , the obligatory adapter and cables were attached on the driver CD, and we even find two games, but only demos. Give value software packages were not tied, then unfortunately that falls into the category "Spartan Equipment", for not even a little SLI bridge is in a box

  • It turns out that Nvidia's reference board was produced in manageable dimensions, the GTX 560 TI remains with its 228mm in relatively space-efficient regions, even though Nvidia has shifted the power connectors to the rear, which extends the card unnecessarily, because the plug will be restricted in space calculation will not forget. Nevertheless, should standard PC housing can provide enough space for this graphics card. If you have a current power supply with the appropriate connectors, should the two 6-pin power connectors also stopping accordingly, otherwise it hails cannonades beep from the motherboard. Without these connections it is in principle not because the PCI Express slots provide up to 75 watts are available, it also change new motherboard with PCI 2.0 interface, nothing.




  • The GTX 560 TI has two DVI ports and a mini-HDMI 1.4a port, display port does not exist. The VGA port is missing, is quite understandable from a technical point, especially as a VGA port, neither the resolution nor the quality of current graphics cards can deliver high-quality monitors. Operation of three monitors is not possible, this will require a combination of talk-SLI dual graphics cards. In this regard, ATI is a clear advantage if one of the three monitors has a DisplayPort or the brand new HD 6950 HD 6970, respectively, are used.

  • At the basic layout of the reference designs EVGA has not changed, the GTX 560 TI is a 4-phase power conversion fitted for the GPU and a 1-phase transformation for the Samsung K4G10325FE-HC04 memory. The graphics card has a digital voltage converter, which can be proven by ON Semiconductor chip controlled. The coils of the transformer required are closed and sealed with epoxy resin has been, so that should the notorious coil pipes pose no problem. Nvidia has also brought additional monitoring components into play, namely monitoring chips in correspondence with the driver on the circuit board, the voltage and power consumption of 12 volt rail in real time.

  • The weight of the graphics card is on a normal level, the 632 grams correspond quite other current high-end graphics cards and had absolutely no cause for concern. To improve the signal quality carry on FR4 board clearly visible solid capacitors (polymer aluminum capacitors) in which we find again more frequently and that's a good thing, because its benefits are not explained away, especially since they do not leak etc. .

  • The 75mm axial fan provides together with the newly designed copper heatsink and its three heat pipes for cooling a very EFFECTIVE, even when the heat is not conducted on a direct path from the case. The waste heat from the voltage converter is a large black base derived in the main cooler, as we know it already from the GTX 570/GTX 580th We see it anyway as a prerequisite, which is built in such a graphics card in a well ventilated enclosure. The processing of the EVGA GTX 560 TI we categorize as very high and the quality soldering on the PCB leaves a very professional impression. The black PCB exudes a certain exclusivity different colored boards would also be out of place.


  • On Whoever thinks about external cooler retrofits thoughts should first read once more and to make our chapter relevant test an opinion, because one would give away already, the reference cooler would be difficult to control, together with its balanced outdo.
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Re: XFX Radeon HD 6870 vs. EVGA GeForce GTX 560

The excellent performance of the installed heat sink almost forced to continue to rotate on the bolt stroke. In fact, even some of it was to extract performance from the 3D accelerator. At the end of our tests including respectable 985 MHz were on the counter - an increase of another 45 MHz. Even the built GDDR5 video memory still made with a little more. Overclocking may pay off in terms of performance but, at the expense even more electricity, heat and volume. Expected especially at idle should be at significantly higher cost. In terms of volume and efficiency of sending supplies but from XFX cooler during our overclocking tests, a very good picture. Here, everyone must decide for themselves what is more important to him. it was far more to high-priced but high-quality graphics cards. The XFX Radeon HD 6870 Black Edition is one of them, although not quite as profound need in the bag. The additional cost between the standard model and our today's test candidate is just 20 ? - a bill that pays for itself in our eyes, quite. So the graphics card offers because of the factory overclocked to 940/2300 MHz is not only a little more power than the reference model of AMD, but is also in terms of power, volume and temperature behavior of things right. Bart's GPU, which shows once again due to some optimizations significantly more efficient than their predecessors in the Evergreen series, is the power consumption of the XFX Radeon HD 6870 Black Edition at a respectable level. Although the Black Edition series has seen the launch of the new graphics card generation to even more boring standard cooler and another time with fancy dual-fan cooler, it is our 3D accelerators today only in the version with the XFX- own cooler. This does the job. While the XFX Radeon HD 6870 Black Edition Idle could barely hear out of the closed test system, the two 70 mm fans turned under load only slightly higher, so the noise would also move in this discipline at a very good level.

The bottom line is one of the XFX Radeon HD 6870 Black Edition of the quietest Barts offshoots, with whom we had been doing in our editorial. Not only do the volume of cooler please. The temperatures are considerably lower than the reference layout so still and allowed higher clock rates, we could achieve in our overclocking tests, too. Here we were able to coax even a respectable 985 MHz of the chip. Finally, the charge also makes the delivery felt. Here XFX was not limited to a manual along with Driver CD and Quick Start Guide, but also put an immediate fancy gaming door sign, a huge body stickers and many other Black Edition sticker in the box
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Re: XFX Radeon HD 6870 vs. EVGA GeForce GTX 560

the clock speeds are only slightly higher. These are around 40 or above 200 MHz and thus bring it on fast 940 MHz respectively in 2300. This is accompanied by a higher pixel fill rate and memory bandwidth of a thicker 147.2 GB / sec. At first glance distinguishes the XFX Radeon HD 6870 outside does not look her little brother, which we tested in late November. On closer inspection, it is striking that our current test sample has somewhat risen in its length and a further 6-pin PCI Express power connector is required. As before, this model is clocked higher. Matching the overall visual impression XFX has left the PCB color the same and also opted for black. Compared to the other model in the same line , the Radeon HD 6850, is the XFX Radeon HD 6870 from a little longer, but has just under 24.5 cm of the same dimensions as the reference layout of AMD. AMD estimates that the maximum power consumption of its Radeon HD 6870 at 151 watts. Since our sample is additionally equipped with higher clock speeds, but this should again be slightly higher. To the two 6-pin connectors is the XFX Radeon HD 6870 so not around. While the PCI Express interface provides 75 watts, the average fast-class graphics card approved by the two additional power plug another 150 watts more. If you stay within the specifications are so up to 225 watts. On the bracket there is only a small aesthetic changes. Led is decorated with a XFX logo the vents, while the remaining lines all the same. Here You have two DVI outputs, an HDMI port and two mini-DisplayPort connectors. For the right connection is guaranteed. As the reference model from AMD also has the XFX Radeon HD 6870 is only one CrossFire connector. With the right motherboard can thus two equivalent 3D accelerators combine and improve performance further. In general, manufacturers show little creative when it comes to the package contents. In the past, however, proved that AMD graphics cards can shine with more allowances than it is for NVIDIA models of the case. The same is true for the XFX Radeon HD 6870 Black Edition. This limited one is not only a handbook along with Driver CD and Quick Start Guide, but also laid a CrossFire bridge, the famous XFX-door sign for gamers, send XFX Black Edition stickers and a nice aluminum stickers for the refrigerator or computer cases with the board. By and large, know the XFX Radeon HD 6870 Black Edition to please now. Be convinced of the supply, the higher clock rates and the sizable dual-fan heatsink. But if the card really does what it promises, we will clarify on the following pages.
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Re: XFX Radeon HD 6870 vs. EVGA GeForce GTX 560

The new Nvidia GeForce GTX 560 TI will find their place in our computers, there is no mouse bites off the thread. It is the legitimate and above all improved successor to the hugely successful GTX 460 and they can do almost everything better. The speed is on par with the HD 6950 from AMD (with 2048MB VRAM), the volume and cooling capacity reached almost level and the reference price performance ratio designed accordingly extremely customer friendly. If there is something to complain about at all, then the power consumption under load, in this regard but all manufacturers do very seriously, even though it certainly can not provide an excuse, because a focus on negatives should not really be the goal.



Now one could argue admirably about whether the improved AF (Anisotropic Filtering) from Nvidia or ATI supersampling antialiasing would be preferable, both philosophies have their advantages and disadvantages. Nvidia has its advantages in this respect by a clearly reduced tendency to fibrillation than ATI, even if future drivers should mitigate this discrepancy. In addition, let the optimizations for anisotropic filter switch individually, what ATI has been missing entirely. Supersampling anti-aliasing on Nvidia's Fermi graphics cards now updated using official external tools and for all DirectX versions (AMD DirectX 9 only). Nvidia has in this regard is still in the lead, but not because it was invested in new innoviative techniques, but because ATI still has to catch smaller debris and sooner or later certainly is. Technically, the Fermi graphics chip at the time the measure of things and not just because of the publicity value of CUDA, PhysX or Tessalation, but because Nvidia has taken account of the games in development that are not yet there. Which of course begs the question: what has the potential buyers about it?

Another thing would be if AMD and Nvidia would sit at a table and could finally establish common standards already for SGSSAA and PhysX. Then more game designers would jump on this train and we all had something like this: namely, attractive games with a maximum image quality ...

Pros
  1. Excellent workmanship, very good quality soldering
  2. Attractive sleek design, quality feel
  3. Very quiet operation with and without load
  4. excellent 3D performance, even at very high resolutions
  5. Excellent image quality, no flickering texture
  6. good overclocking potential
  7. first-class DVD / Blu-ray quality
  8. HD-DVD and Blu-ray on dual-link possible even for large LCDs
  9. Two monitors can be controlled
  10. SLI ready (no 3-way SLI or 4-way SLI!)
  11. CUDA, and PhysX integration Tessellation
  12. minimized power consumption (idle mode)
  13. thank effective cooling system temperatures minimized
  14. very good value for money

Cons
  • Power consumption under load is slightly too high
  • lean Equipment
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Re: XFX Radeon HD 6870 vs. EVGA GeForce GTX 560

EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti delivers the 448 cores Classified as even the GTX 570 Classified, in a plain and simple, black packaging. In keeping with the card is adorned with the logo on the front of the Classified packaging. In addition EVGA mentioned, as usual, that the GTX 448 core 560 Ti Classified typical features such as Nvidia 3D Vision Surround, PhysX, and SLI support DX 11. In addition, you can see the front of the packaging that the GTX 448 core 560 Ti Classified also as the GeForce GTX 570 has about 1280 MiByte graphics memory. On the back of the package are in addition to a picture of EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti 448 cores Classified lists, other properties of the cards. Thus, the image can be taken on the back of the packaging that the GeForce GTX 560 Ti has 448 cores Classified along with two DVI ports and a mini-HDMI output. The mini-HDMI 1.4a output is standard. EVGA GeForce GTX 560, the Ti registered 448 Classified scores within 30 days starting from invoice date with EVGA, the warranty period is extended to three years. As a bonus, little is available to purchasers of the EVGA GTX 560 Ti 448 cores in addition to EVGA's Classified Precision and OC Scanner. Both tools are primarily designed for overclocking, which you must explore yourself with EVGA Precision, the maximum clock rate. EVGA OC Scanner is able to automatically find the maximum clock rate. Since it is the Geforce GTX 448 core 560 Ti Classified to a special overclocking cars, most buyers will want to find the maximum clock speeds independently.

The interesting details of the EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti 448 Classified cores are definitely but hidden under the radiator cover. Mounted to the cover and the cooling block, the board will be visible. Although the EVGA Geforce GTX 560 Ti 448 Classified scores based on the GF-110 chip, EVGA recycled here, the reference board of the old Geforce GTX 480 is based on the GF-100 chip. The layout of the individual components was taken over 1:1, even fans of the recess for the GTX 480 is available on the board. Comparing the components of a reference GeForce GTX 480 and GTX 560 Ti 448 Classified cores is striking that only a few components have been changed
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