Media Center Edition Tuner Not Available

I get the Tuner Not Available error in analog only the Media Center.

The tuner is there and works in Beyond TV. The drivers are the latest. It
is the VBox 164 E dual analog/HD tuner. I just plopped down for the premium
Nvidia decoder. Uninstalled the demo and installed the purchased one.



errors are indicated in ehRecvr.log

Does anyone have any ideas.

[2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't get
IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005

[2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder::Initialize: Failed to get_Init
0x80004005

[2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder(0)::Initialize: Adding Services

[2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder(0)::AddServices: No GLID Plugin
matches this recorder, 0x0

[2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder(2)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't get
IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005

[2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder::Initialize: Failed to get_Init
0x80004005

[2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder(2)::Initialize: Adding Services

[2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder(2)::AddServices: No GLID Plugin
matches this recorder, 0x0

[2007/04/28 09:27:18.281] CDigitalRecorder(1)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't get
IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005

[2007/04/28 09:27:18.281] CDigitalRecorder::Initialize: Failed to get_Init
0x80004005

[2007/04/28 09:27:18.281] CDigitalRecorder(1)::Initialize: Adding Services

[2007/04/28 09:27:18.281] CDigitalRecorder(1)::AddServices: No GLID Plugin
matches this recorder, 0x0

[2007/04/28 09:27:22.031] CAnalogRecorder::Initialize: Failed to
GetCapabilitiesKey 0x80070002

[2007/04/28 09:27:22.062] CAnalogRecorder(3)::AddServices: Can't get base
filter for IMpeg2Data, 0x80004002

[2007/04/28 09:27:22.062] CAnalogRecorder(3)::Initialize: Could not Add
Services, 0x80004002

[2007/04/28 09:27:22.265] CAnalogRecorder::Initialize: Failed to
GetCapabilitiesKey 0x80070002

[2007/04/28 09:27:22.390] CAnalogRecorder::Initialize: Failed to
GetCapabilitiesKey 0x80070002

[2007/04/28 09:27:22.390] CAnalogRecorder(4)::AddServices: Can't get base
filter for IMpeg2Data, 0x80004002

[2007/04/28 09:27:22.390] CAnalogRecorder(4)::Initialize: Could not Add
Services, 0x80004002

[2007/04/28 20:45:21.765] CRecorder(0)::FireTuningChanged:

[2007/04/28 20:45:21.843] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't get
IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005

[2007/04/28 20:45:23.671] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 0, 2

[2007/04/28 20:45:23.671] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StartServices: Can't get GLID
for recorder, 0x80004002

[2007/04/28 20:45:23.671] CRecorder(0)::RunProc: Could not Start Services,
0x80004002

[2007/04/28 20:45:59.421] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StopServices: Can't get GLID
for recorder, 0x80004002

[2007/04/28 20:45:59.421] CRecorder(0)::InternalStop: Could not Stop
Services, 0x80004002

[2007/04/28 20:45:59.625] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 2, 0

[2007/04/28 20:45:59.718] CRecorder(4)::FireTuningChanged:

[2007/04/28 20:46:01.421] CRecorder(4)::RunProc: Could not Record, 0xc0040524

[2007/04/28 20:46:01.437] CRecorder(4)::FireTunerError: +++ 0xc0040524 +++

[2007/04/28 20:46:01.578] CRecorder(4)::FireTuningChanged:

[2007/04/28 20:46:02.359] CRecorder(4)::RunProc: Could not Record, 0xc0040524

[2007/04/28 20:46:02.359] CRecorder(4)::FireTunerError: +++ 0xc0040524 +++

[2007/04/28 20:46:24.390] CRecorder(4)::FireTuningChanged:

[2007/04/28 20:46:25.093] CRecorder(4)::RunProc: Could not Record, 0xc0040524

[2007/04/28 20:46:25.093] CRecorder(4)::FireTunerError: +++ 0xc0040524 +++

[2007/04/28 20:46:25.125] CRecorder(4)::FireTuningChanged:

[2007/04/28 20:46:25.796] CRecorder(4)::RunProc: Could not Record, 0xc0040524

[2007/04/28 20:46:25.796] CRecorder(4)::FireTunerError: +++ 0xc0040524 +++

[2007/04/28 20:47:00.921] CRecorder(0)::FireTuningChanged:

[2007/04/28 20:47:00.921] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't get
IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005

[2007/04/28 20:47:02.406] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 0, 2

[2007/04/28 20:47:02.406] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StartServices: Can't get GLID
for recorder, 0x80004002

[2007/04/28 20:47:02.406] CRecorder(0)::RunProc: Could not Start Services,
0x80004002

[2007/04/28 20:47:18.609] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StopServices: Can't get GLID
for recorder, 0x80004002

[2007/04/28 20:47:18.609] CRecorder(0)::InternalStop: Could not Stop
Services, 0x80004002

[2007/04/28 20:47:18.734] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 2, 0

[2007/04/28 20:49:19.062] CRecorder(0)::FireTuningChanged:

[2007/04/28 20:49:19.062] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't get
IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005

[2007/04/28 20:49:19.453] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 0, 2

[2007/04/28 20:49:19.453] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StartServices: Can't get GLID
for recorder, 0x80004002

[2007/04/28 20:49:19.453] CRecorder(0)::RunProc: Could not Start Services,
0x80004002

[2007/04/28 20:49:31.171] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StopServices: Can't get GLID
for recorder, 0x80004002

[2007/04/28 20:49:31.171] CRecorder(0)::InternalStop: Could not Stop
Services, 0x80004002

[2007/04/28 20:49:31.281] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 2, 0

[2007/04/28 20:49:31.328] CRecorder(4)::FireTuningChanged:

[2007/04/28 20:49:32.046] CRecorder(4)::RunProc: Could not Record, 0xc0040524

[2007/04/28 20:49:32.046] CRecorder(4)::FireTunerError: +++ 0xc0040524 +++

[2007/04/28 20:49:32.125] CRecorder(4)::FireTuningChanged:

[2007/04/28 20:49:32.843] CRecorder(4)::RunProc: Could not Record, 0xc0040524

[2007/04/28 20:49:32.843] CRecorder(4)::FireTunerError: +++ 0xc0040524 +++

[2007/04/28 20:49:39.734] CRecorder(0)::FireTuningChanged:

[2007/04/28 20:49:39.734] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't get
IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005

[2007/04/28 20:49:40.093] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 0, 2

[2007/04/28 20:49:40.093] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StartServices: Can't get GLID
for recorder, 0x80004002

[2007/04/28 20:49:40.093] CRecorder(0)::RunProc: Could not Start Services,
0x80004002

[2007/04/28 20:50:30.281] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StopServices: Can't get GLID
for recorder, 0x80004002

[2007/04/28 20:50:30.281] CRecorder(0)::InternalStop: Could not Stop
Services, 0x80004002

[2007/04/28 20:50:30.421] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 2, 0


--
Rob Horn is a dude.

Do you have a software encoder installed for the analog tuner that will work
in MCE? At it's best the use of the analog tuner is a unsupported hack for
MCE as analog tuners without hardware encoders are not supported and worse
hybrid tuners are also not supported except for digital tuning. If I were to
use the card and relied on it for recording I would not consider using the
analog and digital function of a hybrid tuner as conflicts and missed
recording are sure to happen.

If you must hack the analog tuner for use in MCE rather then use the card as
a dual ATSC tuner, maybe this link will help.

http://www.hdtvtunerinfo.com/vistahdtvinstall.html


"Media Center Rob" <MediaCenterRob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:DDE1F6EB-1E4D-4D15-AB25-5C7F22530B4F@microsoft.com...
>I get the Tuner Not Available error in analog only the Media Center.
>
> The tuner is there and works in Beyond TV. The drivers are the latest.
> It
> is the VBox 164 E dual analog/HD tuner. I just plopped down for the
> premium
> Nvidia decoder. Uninstalled the demo and installed the purchased one.
>
>
>
> errors are indicated in ehRecvr.log
>
> Does anyone have any ideas.
>
> [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't get
> IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
>
> [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder::Initialize: Failed to get_Init
> 0x80004005
>
> [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder(0)::Initialize: Adding Services
>
> [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder(0)::AddServices: No GLID Plugin
> matches this recorder, 0x0
>
> [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder(2)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't get
> IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
>
> [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder::Initialize: Failed to get_Init
> 0x80004005
>
> [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder(2)::Initialize: Adding Services
>
> [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder(2)::AddServices: No GLID Plugin
> matches this recorder, 0x0
>
> [2007/04/28 09:27:18.281] CDigitalRecorder(1)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't get
> IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
>
> [2007/04/28 09:27:18.281] CDigitalRecorder::Initialize: Failed to get_Init
> 0x80004005
>
> [2007/04/28 09:27:18.281] CDigitalRecorder(1)::Initialize: Adding Services
>
> [2007/04/28 09:27:18.281] CDigitalRecorder(1)::AddServices: No GLID Plugin
> matches this recorder, 0x0
>
> [2007/04/28 09:27:22.031] CAnalogRecorder::Initialize: Failed to
> GetCapabilitiesKey 0x80070002
>
> [2007/04/28 09:27:22.062] CAnalogRecorder(3)::AddServices: Can't get base
> filter for IMpeg2Data, 0x80004002
>
> [2007/04/28 09:27:22.062] CAnalogRecorder(3)::Initialize: Could not Add
> Services, 0x80004002
>
> [2007/04/28 09:27:22.265] CAnalogRecorder::Initialize: Failed to
> GetCapabilitiesKey 0x80070002
>
> [2007/04/28 09:27:22.390] CAnalogRecorder::Initialize: Failed to
> GetCapabilitiesKey 0x80070002
>
> [2007/04/28 09:27:22.390] CAnalogRecorder(4)::AddServices: Can't get base
> filter for IMpeg2Data, 0x80004002
>
> [2007/04/28 09:27:22.390] CAnalogRecorder(4)::Initialize: Could not Add
> Services, 0x80004002
>
> [2007/04/28 20:45:21.765] CRecorder(0)::FireTuningChanged:
>
> [2007/04/28 20:45:21.843] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't get
> IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
>
> [2007/04/28 20:45:23.671] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 0, 2
>
> [2007/04/28 20:45:23.671] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StartServices: Can't get
> GLID
> for recorder, 0x80004002
>
> [2007/04/28 20:45:23.671] CRecorder(0)::RunProc: Could not Start Services,
> 0x80004002
>
> [2007/04/28 20:45:59.421] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StopServices: Can't get
> GLID
> for recorder, 0x80004002
>
> [2007/04/28 20:45:59.421] CRecorder(0)::InternalStop: Could not Stop
> Services, 0x80004002
>
> [2007/04/28 20:45:59.625] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 2, 0
>
> [2007/04/28 20:45:59.718] CRecorder(4)::FireTuningChanged:
>
> [2007/04/28 20:46:01.421] CRecorder(4)::RunProc: Could not Record,
> 0xc0040524
>
> [2007/04/28 20:46:01.437] CRecorder(4)::FireTunerError: +++ 0xc0040524 +++
>
> [2007/04/28 20:46:01.578] CRecorder(4)::FireTuningChanged:
>
> [2007/04/28 20:46:02.359] CRecorder(4)::RunProc: Could not Record,
> 0xc0040524
>
> [2007/04/28 20:46:02.359] CRecorder(4)::FireTunerError: +++ 0xc0040524 +++
>
> [2007/04/28 20:46:24.390] CRecorder(4)::FireTuningChanged:
>
> [2007/04/28 20:46:25.093] CRecorder(4)::RunProc: Could not Record,
> 0xc0040524
>
> [2007/04/28 20:46:25.093] CRecorder(4)::FireTunerError: +++ 0xc0040524 +++
>
> [2007/04/28 20:46:25.125] CRecorder(4)::FireTuningChanged:
>
> [2007/04/28 20:46:25.796] CRecorder(4)::RunProc: Could not Record,
> 0xc0040524
>
> [2007/04/28 20:46:25.796] CRecorder(4)::FireTunerError: +++ 0xc0040524 +++
>
> [2007/04/28 20:47:00.921] CRecorder(0)::FireTuningChanged:
>
> [2007/04/28 20:47:00.921] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't get
> IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
>
> [2007/04/28 20:47:02.406] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 0, 2
>
> [2007/04/28 20:47:02.406] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StartServices: Can't get
> GLID
> for recorder, 0x80004002
>
> [2007/04/28 20:47:02.406] CRecorder(0)::RunProc: Could not Start Services,
> 0x80004002
>
> [2007/04/28 20:47:18.609] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StopServices: Can't get
> GLID
> for recorder, 0x80004002
>
> [2007/04/28 20:47:18.609] CRecorder(0)::InternalStop: Could not Stop
> Services, 0x80004002
>
> [2007/04/28 20:47:18.734] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 2, 0
>
> [2007/04/28 20:49:19.062] CRecorder(0)::FireTuningChanged:
>
> [2007/04/28 20:49:19.062] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't get
> IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
>
> [2007/04/28 20:49:19.453] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 0, 2
>
> [2007/04/28 20:49:19.453] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StartServices: Can't get
> GLID
> for recorder, 0x80004002
>
> [2007/04/28 20:49:19.453] CRecorder(0)::RunProc: Could not Start Services,
> 0x80004002
>
> [2007/04/28 20:49:31.171] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StopServices: Can't get
> GLID
> for recorder, 0x80004002
>
> [2007/04/28 20:49:31.171] CRecorder(0)::InternalStop: Could not Stop
> Services, 0x80004002
>
> [2007/04/28 20:49:31.281] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 2, 0
>
> [2007/04/28 20:49:31.328] CRecorder(4)::FireTuningChanged:
>
> [2007/04/28 20:49:32.046] CRecorder(4)::RunProc: Could not Record,
> 0xc0040524
>
> [2007/04/28 20:49:32.046] CRecorder(4)::FireTunerError: +++ 0xc0040524 +++
>
> [2007/04/28 20:49:32.125] CRecorder(4)::FireTuningChanged:
>
> [2007/04/28 20:49:32.843] CRecorder(4)::RunProc: Could not Record,
> 0xc0040524
>
> [2007/04/28 20:49:32.843] CRecorder(4)::FireTunerError: +++ 0xc0040524 +++
>
> [2007/04/28 20:49:39.734] CRecorder(0)::FireTuningChanged:
>
> [2007/04/28 20:49:39.734] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't get
> IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
>
> [2007/04/28 20:49:40.093] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 0, 2
>
> [2007/04/28 20:49:40.093] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StartServices: Can't get
> GLID
> for recorder, 0x80004002
>
> [2007/04/28 20:49:40.093] CRecorder(0)::RunProc: Could not Start Services,
> 0x80004002
>
> [2007/04/28 20:50:30.281] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StopServices: Can't get
> GLID
> for recorder, 0x80004002
>
> [2007/04/28 20:50:30.281] CRecorder(0)::InternalStop: Could not Stop
> Services, 0x80004002
>
> [2007/04/28 20:50:30.421] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 2, 0
>
>
> --
> Rob Horn is a dude.

Dear Jolt,

I have a premium quality software encoder NVidia Pure Video Platinum. The
demo version of the NVidia worked briefly once. Next I uninstalled it and
tried a different version NVidia encoder, which did not work in analog. I
tried uninstalling and reinstalling the NVidia demo and it failed. I
recently purchased the Premium NVidia decoder, thinking that the demo decoder
may be blocked from working. I uninstalled the demo decoder and installed
the Platinum.

The VBox Cat's Eye 164E is also a premium product with a Gold rated driver.

Just to clarify, it is a dual combination analog/HDTV tuner. In essence it
has two analog tuners and two HDTV tuners. It has separate drivers that make
it look like two tuners.

--
Rob Horn is a dude.


"jolt" wrote:

> Do you have a software encoder installed for the analog tuner that will work
> in MCE? At it's best the use of the analog tuner is a unsupported hack for
> MCE as analog tuners without hardware encoders are not supported and worse
> hybrid tuners are also not supported except for digital tuning. If I were to
> use the card and relied on it for recording I would not consider using the
> analog and digital function of a hybrid tuner as conflicts and missed
> recording are sure to happen.
>
> If you must hack the analog tuner for use in MCE rather then use the card as
> a dual ATSC tuner, maybe this link will help.
>
> http://www.hdtvtunerinfo.com/vistahdtvinstall.html
>
>
> "Media Center Rob" <MediaCenterRob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:DDE1F6EB-1E4D-4D15-AB25-5C7F22530B4F@microsoft.com...
> >I get the Tuner Not Available error in analog only the Media Center.
> >
> > The tuner is there and works in Beyond TV. The drivers are the latest.
> > It
> > is the VBox 164 E dual analog/HD tuner. I just plopped down for the
> > premium
> > Nvidia decoder. Uninstalled the demo and installed the purchased one.
> >
> >
> >
> > errors are indicated in ehRecvr.log
> >
> > Does anyone have any ideas.
> >
> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't get
> > IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
> >
> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder::Initialize: Failed to get_Init
> > 0x80004005
> >
> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder(0)::Initialize: Adding Services
> >
> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder(0)::AddServices: No GLID Plugin
> > matches this recorder, 0x0
> >
> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder(2)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't get
> > IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
> >
> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder::Initialize: Failed to get_Init
> > 0x80004005
> >
> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder(2)::Initialize: Adding Services
> >
> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder(2)::AddServices: No GLID Plugin
> > matches this recorder, 0x0
> >
> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.281] CDigitalRecorder(1)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't get
> > IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
> >
> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.281] CDigitalRecorder::Initialize: Failed to get_Init
> > 0x80004005
> >
> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.281] CDigitalRecorder(1)::Initialize: Adding Services
> >
> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.281] CDigitalRecorder(1)::AddServices: No GLID Plugin
> > matches this recorder, 0x0
> >
> > [2007/04/28 09:27:22.031] CAnalogRecorder::Initialize: Failed to
> > GetCapabilitiesKey 0x80070002
> >
> > [2007/04/28 09:27:22.062] CAnalogRecorder(3)::AddServices: Can't get base
> > filter for IMpeg2Data, 0x80004002
> >
> > [2007/04/28 09:27:22.062] CAnalogRecorder(3)::Initialize: Could not Add
> > Services, 0x80004002
> >
> > [2007/04/28 09:27:22.265] CAnalogRecorder::Initialize: Failed to
> > GetCapabilitiesKey 0x80070002
> >
> > [2007/04/28 09:27:22.390] CAnalogRecorder::Initialize: Failed to
> > GetCapabilitiesKey 0x80070002
> >
> > [2007/04/28 09:27:22.390] CAnalogRecorder(4)::AddServices: Can't get base
> > filter for IMpeg2Data, 0x80004002
> >
> > [2007/04/28 09:27:22.390] CAnalogRecorder(4)::Initialize: Could not Add
> > Services, 0x80004002
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:45:21.765] CRecorder(0)::FireTuningChanged:
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:45:21.843] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't get
> > IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:45:23.671] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 0, 2
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:45:23.671] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StartServices: Can't get
> > GLID
> > for recorder, 0x80004002
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:45:23.671] CRecorder(0)::RunProc: Could not Start Services,
> > 0x80004002
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:45:59.421] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StopServices: Can't get
> > GLID
> > for recorder, 0x80004002
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:45:59.421] CRecorder(0)::InternalStop: Could not Stop
> > Services, 0x80004002
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:45:59.625] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 2, 0
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:45:59.718] CRecorder(4)::FireTuningChanged:
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:46:01.421] CRecorder(4)::RunProc: Could not Record,
> > 0xc0040524
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:46:01.437] CRecorder(4)::FireTunerError: +++ 0xc0040524 +++
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:46:01.578] CRecorder(4)::FireTuningChanged:
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:46:02.359] CRecorder(4)::RunProc: Could not Record,
> > 0xc0040524
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:46:02.359] CRecorder(4)::FireTunerError: +++ 0xc0040524 +++
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:46:24.390] CRecorder(4)::FireTuningChanged:
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:46:25.093] CRecorder(4)::RunProc: Could not Record,
> > 0xc0040524
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:46:25.093] CRecorder(4)::FireTunerError: +++ 0xc0040524 +++
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:46:25.125] CRecorder(4)::FireTuningChanged:
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:46:25.796] CRecorder(4)::RunProc: Could not Record,
> > 0xc0040524
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:46:25.796] CRecorder(4)::FireTunerError: +++ 0xc0040524 +++
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:47:00.921] CRecorder(0)::FireTuningChanged:
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:47:00.921] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't get
> > IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:47:02.406] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 0, 2
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:47:02.406] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StartServices: Can't get
> > GLID
> > for recorder, 0x80004002
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:47:02.406] CRecorder(0)::RunProc: Could not Start Services,
> > 0x80004002
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:47:18.609] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StopServices: Can't get
> > GLID
> > for recorder, 0x80004002
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:47:18.609] CRecorder(0)::InternalStop: Could not Stop
> > Services, 0x80004002
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:47:18.734] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 2, 0
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:49:19.062] CRecorder(0)::FireTuningChanged:
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:49:19.062] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't get
> > IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:49:19.453] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 0, 2
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:49:19.453] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StartServices: Can't get
> > GLID
> > for recorder, 0x80004002
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:49:19.453] CRecorder(0)::RunProc: Could not Start Services,
> > 0x80004002
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:49:31.171] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StopServices: Can't get
> > GLID
> > for recorder, 0x80004002
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:49:31.171] CRecorder(0)::InternalStop: Could not Stop
> > Services, 0x80004002
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:49:31.281] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 2, 0
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:49:31.328] CRecorder(4)::FireTuningChanged:
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:49:32.046] CRecorder(4)::RunProc: Could not Record,
> > 0xc0040524
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:49:32.046] CRecorder(4)::FireTunerError: +++ 0xc0040524 +++
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:49:32.125] CRecorder(4)::FireTuningChanged:
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:49:32.843] CRecorder(4)::RunProc: Could not Record,
> > 0xc0040524
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:49:32.843] CRecorder(4)::FireTunerError: +++ 0xc0040524 +++
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:49:39.734] CRecorder(0)::FireTuningChanged:
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:49:39.734] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't get
> > IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:49:40.093] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 0, 2
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:49:40.093] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StartServices: Can't get
> > GLID
> > for recorder, 0x80004002
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:49:40.093] CRecorder(0)::RunProc: Could not Start Services,
> > 0x80004002
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:50:30.281] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StopServices: Can't get
> > GLID
> > for recorder, 0x80004002
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:50:30.281] CRecorder(0)::InternalStop: Could not Stop
> > Services, 0x80004002
> >
> > [2007/04/28 20:50:30.421] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 2, 0
> >
> >
> > --
> > Rob Horn is a dude.
>
>
>

Your cards analog tuner drivers are not supported by MCE since it does not
have a hardware encoder chip(s) on the card and requires software encoding.

http://www.hdtvtunerinfo.com/vbox164efullreview1.html

"Media Center Rob" <MediaCenterRob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:DBC76FF5-E8A6-42AC-8EF0-900C0C850EE8@microsoft.com...
> Dear Jolt,
>
> I have a premium quality software encoder NVidia Pure Video Platinum. The
> demo version of the NVidia worked briefly once. Next I uninstalled it and
> tried a different version NVidia encoder, which did not work in analog. I
> tried uninstalling and reinstalling the NVidia demo and it failed. I
> recently purchased the Premium NVidia decoder, thinking that the demo
> decoder
> may be blocked from working. I uninstalled the demo decoder and installed
> the Platinum.
>
> The VBox Cat's Eye 164E is also a premium product with a Gold rated
> driver.
>
> Just to clarify, it is a dual combination analog/HDTV tuner. In essence
> it
> has two analog tuners and two HDTV tuners. It has separate drivers that
> make
> it look like two tuners.
>
> --
> Rob Horn is a dude.
>
>
> "jolt" wrote:
>
>> Do you have a software encoder installed for the analog tuner that will
>> work
>> in MCE? At it's best the use of the analog tuner is a unsupported hack
>> for
>> MCE as analog tuners without hardware encoders are not supported and
>> worse
>> hybrid tuners are also not supported except for digital tuning. If I were
>> to
>> use the card and relied on it for recording I would not consider using
>> the
>> analog and digital function of a hybrid tuner as conflicts and missed
>> recording are sure to happen.
>>
>> If you must hack the analog tuner for use in MCE rather then use the card
>> as
>> a dual ATSC tuner, maybe this link will help.
>>
>> http://www.hdtvtunerinfo.com/vistahdtvinstall.html
>>
>>
>> "Media Center Rob" <MediaCenterRob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message news:DDE1F6EB-1E4D-4D15-AB25-5C7F22530B4F@microsoft.com...
>> >I get the Tuner Not Available error in analog only the Media Center.
>> >
>> > The tuner is there and works in Beyond TV. The drivers are the latest.
>> > It
>> > is the VBox 164 E dual analog/HD tuner. I just plopped down for the
>> > premium
>> > Nvidia decoder. Uninstalled the demo and installed the purchased one.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > errors are indicated in ehRecvr.log
>> >
>> > Does anyone have any ideas.
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't
>> > get
>> > IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder::Initialize: Failed to
>> > get_Init
>> > 0x80004005
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder(0)::Initialize: Adding
>> > Services
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder(0)::AddServices: No GLID
>> > Plugin
>> > matches this recorder, 0x0
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder(2)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't
>> > get
>> > IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder::Initialize: Failed to
>> > get_Init
>> > 0x80004005
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder(2)::Initialize: Adding
>> > Services
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder(2)::AddServices: No GLID
>> > Plugin
>> > matches this recorder, 0x0
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.281] CDigitalRecorder(1)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't
>> > get
>> > IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.281] CDigitalRecorder::Initialize: Failed to
>> > get_Init
>> > 0x80004005
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.281] CDigitalRecorder(1)::Initialize: Adding
>> > Services
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.281] CDigitalRecorder(1)::AddServices: No GLID
>> > Plugin
>> > matches this recorder, 0x0
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 09:27:22.031] CAnalogRecorder::Initialize: Failed to
>> > GetCapabilitiesKey 0x80070002
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 09:27:22.062] CAnalogRecorder(3)::AddServices: Can't get
>> > base
>> > filter for IMpeg2Data, 0x80004002
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 09:27:22.062] CAnalogRecorder(3)::Initialize: Could not Add
>> > Services, 0x80004002
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 09:27:22.265] CAnalogRecorder::Initialize: Failed to
>> > GetCapabilitiesKey 0x80070002
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 09:27:22.390] CAnalogRecorder::Initialize: Failed to
>> > GetCapabilitiesKey 0x80070002
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 09:27:22.390] CAnalogRecorder(4)::AddServices: Can't get
>> > base
>> > filter for IMpeg2Data, 0x80004002
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 09:27:22.390] CAnalogRecorder(4)::Initialize: Could not Add
>> > Services, 0x80004002
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:45:21.765] CRecorder(0)::FireTuningChanged:
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:45:21.843] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't
>> > get
>> > IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:45:23.671] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 0, 2
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:45:23.671] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StartServices: Can't get
>> > GLID
>> > for recorder, 0x80004002
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:45:23.671] CRecorder(0)::RunProc: Could not Start
>> > Services,
>> > 0x80004002
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:45:59.421] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StopServices: Can't get
>> > GLID
>> > for recorder, 0x80004002
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:45:59.421] CRecorder(0)::InternalStop: Could not Stop
>> > Services, 0x80004002
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:45:59.625] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 2, 0
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:45:59.718] CRecorder(4)::FireTuningChanged:
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:46:01.421] CRecorder(4)::RunProc: Could not Record,
>> > 0xc0040524
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:46:01.437] CRecorder(4)::FireTunerError: +++ 0xc0040524
>> > +++
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:46:01.578] CRecorder(4)::FireTuningChanged:
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:46:02.359] CRecorder(4)::RunProc: Could not Record,
>> > 0xc0040524
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:46:02.359] CRecorder(4)::FireTunerError: +++ 0xc0040524
>> > +++
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:46:24.390] CRecorder(4)::FireTuningChanged:
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:46:25.093] CRecorder(4)::RunProc: Could not Record,
>> > 0xc0040524
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:46:25.093] CRecorder(4)::FireTunerError: +++ 0xc0040524
>> > +++
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:46:25.125] CRecorder(4)::FireTuningChanged:
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:46:25.796] CRecorder(4)::RunProc: Could not Record,
>> > 0xc0040524
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:46:25.796] CRecorder(4)::FireTunerError: +++ 0xc0040524
>> > +++
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:47:00.921] CRecorder(0)::FireTuningChanged:
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:47:00.921] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't
>> > get
>> > IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:47:02.406] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 0, 2
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:47:02.406] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StartServices: Can't get
>> > GLID
>> > for recorder, 0x80004002
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:47:02.406] CRecorder(0)::RunProc: Could not Start
>> > Services,
>> > 0x80004002
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:47:18.609] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StopServices: Can't get
>> > GLID
>> > for recorder, 0x80004002
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:47:18.609] CRecorder(0)::InternalStop: Could not Stop
>> > Services, 0x80004002
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:47:18.734] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 2, 0
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:49:19.062] CRecorder(0)::FireTuningChanged:
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:49:19.062] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't
>> > get
>> > IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:49:19.453] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 0, 2
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:49:19.453] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StartServices: Can't get
>> > GLID
>> > for recorder, 0x80004002
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:49:19.453] CRecorder(0)::RunProc: Could not Start
>> > Services,
>> > 0x80004002
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:49:31.171] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StopServices: Can't get
>> > GLID
>> > for recorder, 0x80004002
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:49:31.171] CRecorder(0)::InternalStop: Could not Stop
>> > Services, 0x80004002
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:49:31.281] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 2, 0
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:49:31.328] CRecorder(4)::FireTuningChanged:
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:49:32.046] CRecorder(4)::RunProc: Could not Record,
>> > 0xc0040524
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:49:32.046] CRecorder(4)::FireTunerError: +++ 0xc0040524
>> > +++
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:49:32.125] CRecorder(4)::FireTuningChanged:
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:49:32.843] CRecorder(4)::RunProc: Could not Record,
>> > 0xc0040524
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:49:32.843] CRecorder(4)::FireTunerError: +++ 0xc0040524
>> > +++
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:49:39.734] CRecorder(0)::FireTuningChanged:
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:49:39.734] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't
>> > get
>> > IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:49:40.093] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 0, 2
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:49:40.093] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StartServices: Can't get
>> > GLID
>> > for recorder, 0x80004002
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:49:40.093] CRecorder(0)::RunProc: Could not Start
>> > Services,
>> > 0x80004002
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:50:30.281] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StopServices: Can't get
>> > GLID
>> > for recorder, 0x80004002
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:50:30.281] CRecorder(0)::InternalStop: Could not Stop
>> > Services, 0x80004002
>> >
>> > [2007/04/28 20:50:30.421] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 2, 0
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Rob Horn is a dude.
>>
>>
>>

According to the info from VBox, the card Microsoft Gold certified and
designed specifically for the Media Center Edition.

http://www.vboxcomm.com/vbox/Cats%20...ltr_%20v09.pdf

I think the problem is related to the interface between the decoder and the
Media Center.

The system worked once with the Hauppauge 500 MCE and the NVidia Demo Decoder.

Afterward I had continuous Loss of Signal Error.

I have the same issue (Loss of Signal Error) with the installed FusionHDTV5
RT Gold, also a hybrid analog/HDTV tuner.

I think because I have installed and uninstalled decoders so many times,
something went wrong and information is misdirected.
--
Rob Horn is a dude.


"JW" wrote:

> Your cards analog tuner drivers are not supported by MCE since it does not
> have a hardware encoder chip(s) on the card and requires software encoding.
>
> http://www.hdtvtunerinfo.com/vbox164efullreview1.html
>
> "Media Center Rob" <MediaCenterRob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:DBC76FF5-E8A6-42AC-8EF0-900C0C850EE8@microsoft.com...
> > Dear Jolt,
> >
> > I have a premium quality software encoder NVidia Pure Video Platinum. The
> > demo version of the NVidia worked briefly once. Next I uninstalled it and
> > tried a different version NVidia encoder, which did not work in analog. I
> > tried uninstalling and reinstalling the NVidia demo and it failed. I
> > recently purchased the Premium NVidia decoder, thinking that the demo
> > decoder
> > may be blocked from working. I uninstalled the demo decoder and installed
> > the Platinum.
> >
> > The VBox Cat's Eye 164E is also a premium product with a Gold rated
> > driver.
> >
> > Just to clarify, it is a dual combination analog/HDTV tuner. In essence
> > it
> > has two analog tuners and two HDTV tuners. It has separate drivers that
> > make
> > it look like two tuners.
> >
> > --
> > Rob Horn is a dude.
> >
> >
> > "jolt" wrote:
> >
> >> Do you have a software encoder installed for the analog tuner that will
> >> work
> >> in MCE? At it's best the use of the analog tuner is a unsupported hack
> >> for
> >> MCE as analog tuners without hardware encoders are not supported and
> >> worse
> >> hybrid tuners are also not supported except for digital tuning. If I were
> >> to
> >> use the card and relied on it for recording I would not consider using
> >> the
> >> analog and digital function of a hybrid tuner as conflicts and missed
> >> recording are sure to happen.
> >>
> >> If you must hack the analog tuner for use in MCE rather then use the card
> >> as
> >> a dual ATSC tuner, maybe this link will help.
> >>
> >> http://www.hdtvtunerinfo.com/vistahdtvinstall.html
> >>
> >>
> >> "Media Center Rob" <MediaCenterRob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> message news:DDE1F6EB-1E4D-4D15-AB25-5C7F22530B4F@microsoft.com...
> >> >I get the Tuner Not Available error in analog only the Media Center.
> >> >
> >> > The tuner is there and works in Beyond TV. The drivers are the latest.
> >> > It
> >> > is the VBox 164 E dual analog/HD tuner. I just plopped down for the
> >> > premium
> >> > Nvidia decoder. Uninstalled the demo and installed the purchased one.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > errors are indicated in ehRecvr.log
> >> >
> >> > Does anyone have any ideas.
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't
> >> > get
> >> > IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder::Initialize: Failed to
> >> > get_Init
> >> > 0x80004005
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder(0)::Initialize: Adding
> >> > Services
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder(0)::AddServices: No GLID
> >> > Plugin
> >> > matches this recorder, 0x0
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder(2)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't
> >> > get
> >> > IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder::Initialize: Failed to
> >> > get_Init
> >> > 0x80004005
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder(2)::Initialize: Adding
> >> > Services
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder(2)::AddServices: No GLID
> >> > Plugin
> >> > matches this recorder, 0x0
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.281] CDigitalRecorder(1)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't
> >> > get
> >> > IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.281] CDigitalRecorder::Initialize: Failed to
> >> > get_Init
> >> > 0x80004005
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.281] CDigitalRecorder(1)::Initialize: Adding
> >> > Services
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.281] CDigitalRecorder(1)::AddServices: No GLID
> >> > Plugin
> >> > matches this recorder, 0x0
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 09:27:22.031] CAnalogRecorder::Initialize: Failed to
> >> > GetCapabilitiesKey 0x80070002
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 09:27:22.062] CAnalogRecorder(3)::AddServices: Can't get
> >> > base
> >> > filter for IMpeg2Data, 0x80004002
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 09:27:22.062] CAnalogRecorder(3)::Initialize: Could not Add
> >> > Services, 0x80004002
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 09:27:22.265] CAnalogRecorder::Initialize: Failed to
> >> > GetCapabilitiesKey 0x80070002
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 09:27:22.390] CAnalogRecorder::Initialize: Failed to
> >> > GetCapabilitiesKey 0x80070002
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 09:27:22.390] CAnalogRecorder(4)::AddServices: Can't get
> >> > base
> >> > filter for IMpeg2Data, 0x80004002
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 09:27:22.390] CAnalogRecorder(4)::Initialize: Could not Add
> >> > Services, 0x80004002
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:45:21.765] CRecorder(0)::FireTuningChanged:
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:45:21.843] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't
> >> > get
> >> > IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:45:23.671] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 0, 2
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:45:23.671] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StartServices: Can't get
> >> > GLID
> >> > for recorder, 0x80004002
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:45:23.671] CRecorder(0)::RunProc: Could not Start
> >> > Services,
> >> > 0x80004002
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:45:59.421] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StopServices: Can't get
> >> > GLID
> >> > for recorder, 0x80004002
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:45:59.421] CRecorder(0)::InternalStop: Could not Stop
> >> > Services, 0x80004002
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:45:59.625] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 2, 0
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:45:59.718] CRecorder(4)::FireTuningChanged:
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:46:01.421] CRecorder(4)::RunProc: Could not Record,
> >> > 0xc0040524
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:46:01.437] CRecorder(4)::FireTunerError: +++ 0xc0040524
> >> > +++
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:46:01.578] CRecorder(4)::FireTuningChanged:
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:46:02.359] CRecorder(4)::RunProc: Could not Record,
> >> > 0xc0040524
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:46:02.359] CRecorder(4)::FireTunerError: +++ 0xc0040524
> >> > +++
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:46:24.390] CRecorder(4)::FireTuningChanged:
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:46:25.093] CRecorder(4)::RunProc: Could not Record,
> >> > 0xc0040524
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:46:25.093] CRecorder(4)::FireTunerError: +++ 0xc0040524
> >> > +++
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:46:25.125] CRecorder(4)::FireTuningChanged:
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:46:25.796] CRecorder(4)::RunProc: Could not Record,
> >> > 0xc0040524
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:46:25.796] CRecorder(4)::FireTunerError: +++ 0xc0040524
> >> > +++
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:47:00.921] CRecorder(0)::FireTuningChanged:
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:47:00.921] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't
> >> > get
> >> > IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:47:02.406] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 0, 2
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:47:02.406] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StartServices: Can't get
> >> > GLID
> >> > for recorder, 0x80004002
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:47:02.406] CRecorder(0)::RunProc: Could not Start
> >> > Services,
> >> > 0x80004002
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:47:18.609] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StopServices: Can't get
> >> > GLID
> >> > for recorder, 0x80004002
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:47:18.609] CRecorder(0)::InternalStop: Could not Stop
> >> > Services, 0x80004002
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:47:18.734] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 2, 0
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:49:19.062] CRecorder(0)::FireTuningChanged:
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:49:19.062] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't
> >> > get
> >> > IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:49:19.453] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 0, 2
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:49:19.453] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StartServices: Can't get
> >> > GLID
> >> > for recorder, 0x80004002
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:49:19.453] CRecorder(0)::RunProc: Could not Start
> >> > Services,
> >> > 0x80004002
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:49:31.171] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StopServices: Can't get
> >> > GLID
> >> > for recorder, 0x80004002
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:49:31.171] CRecorder(0)::InternalStop: Could not Stop
> >> > Services, 0x80004002
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:49:31.281] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 2, 0
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:49:31.328] CRecorder(4)::FireTuningChanged:
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:49:32.046] CRecorder(4)::RunProc: Could not Record,
> >> > 0xc0040524
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:49:32.046] CRecorder(4)::FireTunerError: +++ 0xc0040524
> >> > +++
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:49:32.125] CRecorder(4)::FireTuningChanged:
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:49:32.843] CRecorder(4)::RunProc: Could not Record,
> >> > 0xc0040524
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:49:32.843] CRecorder(4)::FireTunerError: +++ 0xc0040524
> >> > +++
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:49:39.734] CRecorder(0)::FireTuningChanged:
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:49:39.734] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't
> >> > get
> >> > IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:49:40.093] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 0, 2
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:49:40.093] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StartServices: Can't get
> >> > GLID
> >> > for recorder, 0x80004002
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:49:40.093] CRecorder(0)::RunProc: Could not Start
> >> > Services,
> >> > 0x80004002
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:50:30.281] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StopServices: Can't get
> >> > GLID
> >> > for recorder, 0x80004002
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:50:30.281] CRecorder(0)::InternalStop: Could not Stop
> >> > Services, 0x80004002
> >> >
> >> > [2007/04/28 20:50:30.421] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 2, 0
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Rob Horn is a dude.
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

Yes,but the certification only applies to the digital tuners not to the
analog tuners as JW pointed out.
This is because the card and its drivers do not support the BDA interface
which provides encoded video to MC like the digital tuners do since the
signal they recieve is already encoded.
Rob" <MediaCenterRob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:92B3254F-60C3-4045-9599-E91E3A4558D3@microsoft.com...
> According to the info from VBox, the card Microsoft Gold certified and
> designed specifically for the Media Center Edition.
>
> http://www.vboxcomm.com/vbox/Cats%20...ltr_%20v09.pdf
>
> I think the problem is related to the interface between the decoder and
> the
> Media Center.
>
> The system worked once with the Hauppauge 500 MCE and the NVidia Demo
> Decoder.
>
> Afterward I had continuous Loss of Signal Error.
>
> I have the same issue (Loss of Signal Error) with the installed
> FusionHDTV5
> RT Gold, also a hybrid analog/HDTV tuner.
>
> I think because I have installed and uninstalled decoders so many times,
> something went wrong and information is misdirected.
> --
> Rob Horn is a dude.
>
>
> "JW" wrote:
>
>> Your cards analog tuner drivers are not supported by MCE since it does
>> not
>> have a hardware encoder chip(s) on the card and requires software
>> encoding.
>>
>> http://www.hdtvtunerinfo.com/vbox164efullreview1.html
>>
>> "Media Center Rob" <MediaCenterRob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message news:DBC76FF5-E8A6-42AC-8EF0-900C0C850EE8@microsoft.com...
>> > Dear Jolt,
>> >
>> > I have a premium quality software encoder NVidia Pure Video Platinum.
>> > The
>> > demo version of the NVidia worked briefly once. Next I uninstalled it
>> > and
>> > tried a different version NVidia encoder, which did not work in analog.
>> > I
>> > tried uninstalling and reinstalling the NVidia demo and it failed. I
>> > recently purchased the Premium NVidia decoder, thinking that the demo
>> > decoder
>> > may be blocked from working. I uninstalled the demo decoder and
>> > installed
>> > the Platinum.
>> >
>> > The VBox Cat's Eye 164E is also a premium product with a Gold rated
>> > driver.
>> >
>> > Just to clarify, it is a dual combination analog/HDTV tuner. In
>> > essence
>> > it
>> > has two analog tuners and two HDTV tuners. It has separate drivers
>> > that
>> > make
>> > it look like two tuners.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Rob Horn is a dude.
>> >
>> >
>> > "jolt" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Do you have a software encoder installed for the analog tuner that
>> >> will
>> >> work
>> >> in MCE? At it's best the use of the analog tuner is a unsupported hack
>> >> for
>> >> MCE as analog tuners without hardware encoders are not supported and
>> >> worse
>> >> hybrid tuners are also not supported except for digital tuning. If I
>> >> were
>> >> to
>> >> use the card and relied on it for recording I would not consider using
>> >> the
>> >> analog and digital function of a hybrid tuner as conflicts and missed
>> >> recording are sure to happen.
>> >>
>> >> If you must hack the analog tuner for use in MCE rather then use the
>> >> card
>> >> as
>> >> a dual ATSC tuner, maybe this link will help.
>> >>
>> >> http://www.hdtvtunerinfo.com/vistahdtvinstall.html
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Media Center Rob" <MediaCenterRob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> message news:DDE1F6EB-1E4D-4D15-AB25-5C7F22530B4F@microsoft.com...
>> >> >I get the Tuner Not Available error in analog only the Media Center.
>> >> >
>> >> > The tuner is there and works in Beyond TV. The drivers are the
>> >> > latest.
>> >> > It
>> >> > is the VBox 164 E dual analog/HD tuner. I just plopped down for the
>> >> > premium
>> >> > Nvidia decoder. Uninstalled the demo and installed the purchased
>> >> > one.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > errors are indicated in ehRecvr.log
>> >> >
>> >> > Does anyone have any ideas.
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder:
>> >> > Can't
>> >> > get
>> >> > IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder::Initialize: Failed to
>> >> > get_Init
>> >> > 0x80004005
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder(0)::Initialize: Adding
>> >> > Services
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder(0)::AddServices: No GLID
>> >> > Plugin
>> >> > matches this recorder, 0x0
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder(2)::GetVideoEncoder:
>> >> > Can't
>> >> > get
>> >> > IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder::Initialize: Failed to
>> >> > get_Init
>> >> > 0x80004005
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder(2)::Initialize: Adding
>> >> > Services
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder(2)::AddServices: No GLID
>> >> > Plugin
>> >> > matches this recorder, 0x0
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.281] CDigitalRecorder(1)::GetVideoEncoder:
>> >> > Can't
>> >> > get
>> >> > IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.281] CDigitalRecorder::Initialize: Failed to
>> >> > get_Init
>> >> > 0x80004005
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.281] CDigitalRecorder(1)::Initialize: Adding
>> >> > Services
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 09:27:18.281] CDigitalRecorder(1)::AddServices: No GLID
>> >> > Plugin
>> >> > matches this recorder, 0x0
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 09:27:22.031] CAnalogRecorder::Initialize: Failed to
>> >> > GetCapabilitiesKey 0x80070002
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 09:27:22.062] CAnalogRecorder(3)::AddServices: Can't get
>> >> > base
>> >> > filter for IMpeg2Data, 0x80004002
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 09:27:22.062] CAnalogRecorder(3)::Initialize: Could not
>> >> > Add
>> >> > Services, 0x80004002
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 09:27:22.265] CAnalogRecorder::Initialize: Failed to
>> >> > GetCapabilitiesKey 0x80070002
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 09:27:22.390] CAnalogRecorder::Initialize: Failed to
>> >> > GetCapabilitiesKey 0x80070002
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 09:27:22.390] CAnalogRecorder(4)::AddServices: Can't get
>> >> > base
>> >> > filter for IMpeg2Data, 0x80004002
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 09:27:22.390] CAnalogRecorder(4)::Initialize: Could not
>> >> > Add
>> >> > Services, 0x80004002
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:45:21.765] CRecorder(0)::FireTuningChanged:
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:45:21.843] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder:
>> >> > Can't
>> >> > get
>> >> > IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:45:23.671] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 0, 2
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:45:23.671] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StartServices: Can't
>> >> > get
>> >> > GLID
>> >> > for recorder, 0x80004002
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:45:23.671] CRecorder(0)::RunProc: Could not Start
>> >> > Services,
>> >> > 0x80004002
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:45:59.421] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StopServices: Can't
>> >> > get
>> >> > GLID
>> >> > for recorder, 0x80004002
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:45:59.421] CRecorder(0)::InternalStop: Could not Stop
>> >> > Services, 0x80004002
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:45:59.625] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 2, 0
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:45:59.718] CRecorder(4)::FireTuningChanged:
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:46:01.421] CRecorder(4)::RunProc: Could not Record,
>> >> > 0xc0040524
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:46:01.437] CRecorder(4)::FireTunerError: +++
>> >> > 0xc0040524
>> >> > +++
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:46:01.578] CRecorder(4)::FireTuningChanged:
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:46:02.359] CRecorder(4)::RunProc: Could not Record,
>> >> > 0xc0040524
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:46:02.359] CRecorder(4)::FireTunerError: +++
>> >> > 0xc0040524
>> >> > +++
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:46:24.390] CRecorder(4)::FireTuningChanged:
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:46:25.093] CRecorder(4)::RunProc: Could not Record,
>> >> > 0xc0040524
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:46:25.093] CRecorder(4)::FireTunerError: +++
>> >> > 0xc0040524
>> >> > +++
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:46:25.125] CRecorder(4)::FireTuningChanged:
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:46:25.796] CRecorder(4)::RunProc: Could not Record,
>> >> > 0xc0040524
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:46:25.796] CRecorder(4)::FireTunerError: +++
>> >> > 0xc0040524
>> >> > +++
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:47:00.921] CRecorder(0)::FireTuningChanged:
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:47:00.921] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder:
>> >> > Can't
>> >> > get
>> >> > IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:47:02.406] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 0, 2
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:47:02.406] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StartServices: Can't
>> >> > get
>> >> > GLID
>> >> > for recorder, 0x80004002
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:47:02.406] CRecorder(0)::RunProc: Could not Start
>> >> > Services,
>> >> > 0x80004002
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:47:18.609] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StopServices: Can't
>> >> > get
>> >> > GLID
>> >> > for recorder, 0x80004002
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:47:18.609] CRecorder(0)::InternalStop: Could not Stop
>> >> > Services, 0x80004002
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:47:18.734] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 2, 0
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:49:19.062] CRecorder(0)::FireTuningChanged:
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:49:19.062] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder:
>> >> > Can't
>> >> > get
>> >> > IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:49:19.453] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 0, 2
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:49:19.453] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StartServices: Can't
>> >> > get
>> >> > GLID
>> >> > for recorder, 0x80004002
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:49:19.453] CRecorder(0)::RunProc: Could not Start
>> >> > Services,
>> >> > 0x80004002
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:49:31.171] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StopServices: Can't
>> >> > get
>> >> > GLID
>> >> > for recorder, 0x80004002
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:49:31.171] CRecorder(0)::InternalStop: Could not Stop
>> >> > Services, 0x80004002
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:49:31.281] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 2, 0
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:49:31.328] CRecorder(4)::FireTuningChanged:
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:49:32.046] CRecorder(4)::RunProc: Could not Record,
>> >> > 0xc0040524
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:49:32.046] CRecorder(4)::FireTunerError: +++
>> >> > 0xc0040524
>> >> > +++
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:49:32.125] CRecorder(4)::FireTuningChanged:
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:49:32.843] CRecorder(4)::RunProc: Could not Record,
>> >> > 0xc0040524
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:49:32.843] CRecorder(4)::FireTunerError: +++
>> >> > 0xc0040524
>> >> > +++
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:49:39.734] CRecorder(0)::FireTuningChanged:
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:49:39.734] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder:
>> >> > Can't
>> >> > get
>> >> > IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:49:40.093] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 0, 2
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:49:40.093] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StartServices: Can't
>> >> > get
>> >> > GLID
>> >> > for recorder, 0x80004002
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:49:40.093] CRecorder(0)::RunProc: Could not Start
>> >> > Services,
>> >> > 0x80004002
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:50:30.281] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StopServices: Can't
>> >> > get
>> >> > GLID
>> >> > for recorder, 0x80004002
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:50:30.281] CRecorder(0)::InternalStop: Could not Stop
>> >> > Services, 0x80004002
>> >> >
>> >> > [2007/04/28 20:50:30.421] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 2, 0
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Rob Horn is a dude.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

Dear Jolt and JW and anyone else who can help,

VBox supplies the MainConcept MPEG2 (demo) encoder. I have downloaded the
latest version of the MainConcept (demo) encoder and the tech at VBox seems
to think this should. work. The tech at VBox has had the experience of the
Cat's Eye 164e working in analog, with the software encoder installed.

I understand now about the part that these hybrid tuners do not have a chip
onboard to convert the analog stream into digital. How can I make the
MainConcept Encoder the preferred.

I do have an ATI encoder, according the MC XP Diag Tool 2.5, but this is not
Media Center compatible--is called Video encoder, not MPEG2 decoder. How do
I disable or change the priority of this encoder?

Just to state the obvious, when I go to analog the ehShell service drops to
zero % cpu usage. Then in selecting an HDTV channel it goes to 20-80% cpu
usage.

The error in ehRecvr:
[2007/04/28 20:49:39.734] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't get
IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
means the video data is not being processed by the ehShell.

If it is trying to use an encoder that is not MCE compatible. That would
make sense.

Also, how can I clear my registry from the references to the tuner2 of the
Hauppauge 500 MCE dual analog tuner. With the Hauppauge, I got consistently
got the Loss of Signal error in analog. I returned the Hauppage.

I currently get the Loss of Signal error in analog with the DVICO FusionHDTV
hybrid. This tuner also lacks a hardware MPEG2 encoder. It has the
UnifiedAVStream driver that comprises the MPEG2 encoder, presumably.

Also, what about the KramMCE drivers detailed at:
http://www.hdtvtunerinfo.com/tvencodersexplained.html
Will this work for me?

--
Rob Horn is a dude.

You can't make it work with MC since MC requires that it receive already
encoded video from the tuner/video capture card drivers, MC itself does not
have or use andysoftware encoders

"Media Center Rob" <MediaCenterRob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:4FEA7216-4BC8-4916-9D40-AEDB12FC6772@microsoft.com...
> Dear Jolt and JW and anyone else who can help,
>
> VBox supplies the MainConcept MPEG2 (demo) encoder. I have downloaded the
> latest version of the MainConcept (demo) encoder and the tech at VBox
> seems
> to think this should. work. The tech at VBox has had the experience of
> the
> Cat's Eye 164e working in analog, with the software encoder installed.
>
> I understand now about the part that these hybrid tuners do not have a
> chip
> onboard to convert the analog stream into digital. How can I make the
> MainConcept Encoder the preferred.
>
> I do have an ATI encoder, according the MC XP Diag Tool 2.5, but this is
> not
> Media Center compatible--is called Video encoder, not MPEG2 decoder. How
> do
> I disable or change the priority of this encoder?
>
> Just to state the obvious, when I go to analog the ehShell service drops
> to
> zero % cpu usage. Then in selecting an HDTV channel it goes to 20-80% cpu
> usage.
>
> The error in ehRecvr:
> [2007/04/28 20:49:39.734] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't get
> IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
> means the video data is not being processed by the ehShell.
>
> If it is trying to use an encoder that is not MCE compatible. That would
> make sense.
>
> Also, how can I clear my registry from the references to the tuner2 of the
> Hauppauge 500 MCE dual analog tuner. With the Hauppauge, I got
> consistently
> got the Loss of Signal error in analog. I returned the Hauppage.
>
> I currently get the Loss of Signal error in analog with the DVICO
> FusionHDTV
> hybrid. This tuner also lacks a hardware MPEG2 encoder. It has the
> UnifiedAVStream driver that comprises the MPEG2 encoder, presumably.
>
> Also, what about the KramMCE drivers detailed at:
> http://www.hdtvtunerinfo.com/tvencodersexplained.html
> Will this work for me?
>
> --
> Rob Horn is a dude.
>

I disagree with you, JW.

I have a Kworld ATSC 110 Analog and Digital tuner Card, it does not have a
hardware encoder.
I did get it to work in MCE 2005 with a software Encoder.
It is not recommended, but it does work on my system.


There is a list of Software Encoders that work with MCE 2005.
I am using the Arcsoft MCE software Encoder (32 bit) (First one in the list)
http://www.tv-cards.com/messageboard....php?pid=53076

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"JW" <nospam@no.spam> wrote in message
news:uAH%23GCWmHHA.3888@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> You can't make it work with MC since MC requires that it receive already
> encoded video from the tuner/video capture card drivers, MC itself does
> not have or use andysoftware encoders
>
> "Media Center Rob" <MediaCenterRob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:4FEA7216-4BC8-4916-9D40-AEDB12FC6772@microsoft.com...
>> Dear Jolt and JW and anyone else who can help,
>>
>> VBox supplies the MainConcept MPEG2 (demo) encoder. I have downloaded
>> the
>> latest version of the MainConcept (demo) encoder and the tech at VBox
>> seems
>> to think this should. work. The tech at VBox has had the experience of
>> the
>> Cat's Eye 164e working in analog, with the software encoder installed.
>>
>> I understand now about the part that these hybrid tuners do not have a
>> chip
>> onboard to convert the analog stream into digital. How can I make the
>> MainConcept Encoder the preferred.
>>
>> I do have an ATI encoder, according the MC XP Diag Tool 2.5, but this is
>> not
>> Media Center compatible--is called Video encoder, not MPEG2 decoder.
>> How do
>> I disable or change the priority of this encoder?
>>
>> Just to state the obvious, when I go to analog the ehShell service drops
>> to
>> zero % cpu usage. Then in selecting an HDTV channel it goes to 20-80%
>> cpu
>> usage.
>>
>> The error in ehRecvr:
>> [2007/04/28 20:49:39.734] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't get
>> IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
>> means the video data is not being processed by the ehShell.
>>
>> If it is trying to use an encoder that is not MCE compatible. That would
>> make sense.
>>
>> Also, how can I clear my registry from the references to the tuner2 of
>> the
>> Hauppauge 500 MCE dual analog tuner. With the Hauppauge, I got
>> consistently
>> got the Loss of Signal error in analog. I returned the Hauppage.
>>
>> I currently get the Loss of Signal error in analog with the DVICO
>> FusionHDTV
>> hybrid. This tuner also lacks a hardware MPEG2 encoder. It has the
>> UnifiedAVStream driver that comprises the MPEG2 encoder, presumably.
>>
>> Also, what about the KramMCE drivers detailed at:
>> http://www.hdtvtunerinfo.com/tvencodersexplained.html
>> Will this work for me?
>>
>> --
>> Rob Horn is a dude.
>>
>
>

I guess I did not word it correctly by saying the MC would only accept
encoded video from the card/drivers and had not encoder software of its own
or that it used. I did not mean to imply that a vendor can not supply a
software encoder which then creates BDA drivers for the analog tuner since I
am aware of several such products and of course they work since MC has now
idea where the encoding is being done since it only talks to the BDA
drivers.
"CSM1" <nomail@nomoremail.com> wrote in message
news:wzm3i.8569$2v1.2251@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net...
>I disagree with you, JW.
>
> I have a Kworld ATSC 110 Analog and Digital tuner Card, it does not have
> a hardware encoder.
> I did get it to work in MCE 2005 with a software Encoder.
> It is not recommended, but it does work on my system.
>
>
> There is a list of Software Encoders that work with MCE 2005.
> I am using the Arcsoft MCE software Encoder (32 bit) (First one in the
> list)
> http://www.tv-cards.com/messageboard....php?pid=53076
>
> --
> CSM1
> http://www.carlmcmillan.com
> --
> "JW" <nospam@no.spam> wrote in message
> news:uAH%23GCWmHHA.3888@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> You can't make it work with MC since MC requires that it receive already
>> encoded video from the tuner/video capture card drivers, MC itself does
>> not have or use andysoftware encoders
>>
>> "Media Center Rob" <MediaCenterRob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message news:4FEA7216-4BC8-4916-9D40-AEDB12FC6772@microsoft.com...
>>> Dear Jolt and JW and anyone else who can help,
>>>
>>> VBox supplies the MainConcept MPEG2 (demo) encoder. I have downloaded
>>> the
>>> latest version of the MainConcept (demo) encoder and the tech at VBox
>>> seems
>>> to think this should. work. The tech at VBox has had the experience of
>>> the
>>> Cat's Eye 164e working in analog, with the software encoder installed.
>>>
>>> I understand now about the part that these hybrid tuners do not have a
>>> chip
>>> onboard to convert the analog stream into digital. How can I make the
>>> MainConcept Encoder the preferred.
>>>
>>> I do have an ATI encoder, according the MC XP Diag Tool 2.5, but this is
>>> not
>>> Media Center compatible--is called Video encoder, not MPEG2 decoder. How
>>> do
>>> I disable or change the priority of this encoder?
>>>
>>> Just to state the obvious, when I go to analog the ehShell service drops
>>> to
>>> zero % cpu usage. Then in selecting an HDTV channel it goes to 20-80%
>>> cpu
>>> usage.
>>>
>>> The error in ehRecvr:
>>> [2007/04/28 20:49:39.734] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't
>>> get
>>> IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
>>> means the video data is not being processed by the ehShell.
>>>
>>> If it is trying to use an encoder that is not MCE compatible. That
>>> would
>>> make sense.
>>>
>>> Also, how can I clear my registry from the references to the tuner2 of
>>> the
>>> Hauppauge 500 MCE dual analog tuner. With the Hauppauge, I got
>>> consistently
>>> got the Loss of Signal error in analog. I returned the Hauppage.
>>>
>>> I currently get the Loss of Signal error in analog with the DVICO
>>> FusionHDTV
>>> hybrid. This tuner also lacks a hardware MPEG2 encoder. It has the
>>> UnifiedAVStream driver that comprises the MPEG2 encoder, presumably.
>>>
>>> Also, what about the KramMCE drivers detailed at:
>>> http://www.hdtvtunerinfo.com/tvencodersexplained.html
>>> Will this work for me?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Rob Horn is a dude.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Very Good.
It is too bad that MCE did not include encoders in the original code.

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"JW" <nospam@no.spam> wrote in message
news:u4w0QyZmHHA.4316@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>I guess I did not word it correctly by saying the MC would only accept
>encoded video from the card/drivers and had not encoder software of its own
>or that it used. I did not mean to imply that a vendor can not supply a
>software encoder which then creates BDA drivers for the analog tuner since
>I am aware of several such products and of course they work since MC has
>now idea where the encoding is being done since it only talks to the BDA
>drivers.
> "CSM1" <nomail@nomoremail.com> wrote in message
> news:wzm3i.8569$2v1.2251@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net...
>>I disagree with you, JW.
>>
>> I have a Kworld ATSC 110 Analog and Digital tuner Card, it does not have
>> a hardware encoder.
>> I did get it to work in MCE 2005 with a software Encoder.
>> It is not recommended, but it does work on my system.
>>
>>
>> There is a list of Software Encoders that work with MCE 2005.
>> I am using the Arcsoft MCE software Encoder (32 bit) (First one in the
>> list)
>> http://www.tv-cards.com/messageboard....php?pid=53076
>>
>> --
>> CSM1
>> http://www.carlmcmillan.com
>> --
>> "JW" <nospam@no.spam> wrote in message
>> news:uAH%23GCWmHHA.3888@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> You can't make it work with MC since MC requires that it receive already
>>> encoded video from the tuner/video capture card drivers, MC itself does
>>> not have or use andysoftware encoders
>>>
>>> "Media Center Rob" <MediaCenterRob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>>> message news:4FEA7216-4BC8-4916-9D40-AEDB12FC6772@microsoft.com...
>>>> Dear Jolt and JW and anyone else who can help,
>>>>
>>>> VBox supplies the MainConcept MPEG2 (demo) encoder. I have downloaded
>>>> the
>>>> latest version of the MainConcept (demo) encoder and the tech at VBox
>>>> seems
>>>> to think this should. work. The tech at VBox has had the experience of
>>>> the
>>>> Cat's Eye 164e working in analog, with the software encoder installed.
>>>>
>>>> I understand now about the part that these hybrid tuners do not have a
>>>> chip
>>>> onboard to convert the analog stream into digital. How can I make the
>>>> MainConcept Encoder the preferred.
>>>>
>>>> I do have an ATI encoder, according the MC XP Diag Tool 2.5, but this
>>>> is not
>>>> Media Center compatible--is called Video encoder, not MPEG2 decoder.
>>>> How do
>>>> I disable or change the priority of this encoder?
>>>>
>>>> Just to state the obvious, when I go to analog the ehShell service
>>>> drops to
>>>> zero % cpu usage. Then in selecting an HDTV channel it goes to 20-80%
>>>> cpu
>>>> usage.
>>>>
>>>> The error in ehRecvr:
>>>> [2007/04/28 20:49:39.734] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't
>>>> get
>>>> IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
>>>> means the video data is not being processed by the ehShell.
>>>>
>>>> If it is trying to use an encoder that is not MCE compatible. That
>>>> would
>>>> make sense.
>>>>
>>>> Also, how can I clear my registry from the references to the tuner2 of
>>>> the
>>>> Hauppauge 500 MCE dual analog tuner. With the Hauppauge, I got
>>>> consistently
>>>> got the Loss of Signal error in analog. I returned the Hauppage.
>>>>
>>>> I currently get the Loss of Signal error in analog with the DVICO
>>>> FusionHDTV
>>>> hybrid. This tuner also lacks a hardware MPEG2 encoder. It has the
>>>> UnifiedAVStream driver that comprises the MPEG2 encoder, presumably.
>>>>
>>>> Also, what about the KramMCE drivers detailed at:
>>>> http://www.hdtvtunerinfo.com/tvencodersexplained.html
>>>> Will this work for me?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Rob Horn is a dude.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

The problem is the large amoung to CPU power that software encoders consume
and this was a big problem in the early days of MCE with lower powered CPUs.
MS would still accept them for the designed for MCE logo program with MCE
2004, However, with MCE2005 and the ability to have multiple tuners they
stopped all approvals of any product using software encoders.
"CSM1" <nomail@nomoremail.com> wrote in message
news:L1F3i.6511$RX.1796@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net...
> Very Good.
> It is too bad that MCE did not include encoders in the original code.
>
> --
> CSM1
> http://www.carlmcmillan.com
> --
> "JW" <nospam@no.spam> wrote in message
> news:u4w0QyZmHHA.4316@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>I guess I did not word it correctly by saying the MC would only accept
>>encoded video from the card/drivers and had not encoder software of its
>>own or that it used. I did not mean to imply that a vendor can not supply
>>a software encoder which then creates BDA drivers for the analog tuner
>>since I am aware of several such products and of course they work since MC
>>has now idea where the encoding is being done since it only talks to the
>>BDA drivers.
>> "CSM1" <nomail@nomoremail.com> wrote in message
>> news:wzm3i.8569$2v1.2251@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net...
>>>I disagree with you, JW.
>>>
>>> I have a Kworld ATSC 110 Analog and Digital tuner Card, it does not
>>> have a hardware encoder.
>>> I did get it to work in MCE 2005 with a software Encoder.
>>> It is not recommended, but it does work on my system.
>>>
>>>
>>> There is a list of Software Encoders that work with MCE 2005.
>>> I am using the Arcsoft MCE software Encoder (32 bit) (First one in the
>>> list)
>>> http://www.tv-cards.com/messageboard....php?pid=53076
>>>
>>> --
>>> CSM1
>>> http://www.carlmcmillan.com
>>> --
>>> "JW" <nospam@no.spam> wrote in message
>>> news:uAH%23GCWmHHA.3888@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> You can't make it work with MC since MC requires that it receive
>>>> already encoded video from the tuner/video capture card drivers, MC
>>>> itself does not have or use andysoftware encoders
>>>>
>>>> "Media Center Rob" <MediaCenterRob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>>>> message news:4FEA7216-4BC8-4916-9D40-AEDB12FC6772@microsoft.com...
>>>>> Dear Jolt and JW and anyone else who can help,
>>>>>
>>>>> VBox supplies the MainConcept MPEG2 (demo) encoder. I have downloaded
>>>>> the
>>>>> latest version of the MainConcept (demo) encoder and the tech at VBox
>>>>> seems
>>>>> to think this should. work. The tech at VBox has had the experience
>>>>> of the
>>>>> Cat's Eye 164e working in analog, with the software encoder installed.
>>>>>
>>>>> I understand now about the part that these hybrid tuners do not have a
>>>>> chip
>>>>> onboard to convert the analog stream into digital. How can I make the
>>>>> MainConcept Encoder the preferred.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do have an ATI encoder, according the MC XP Diag Tool 2.5, but this
>>>>> is not
>>>>> Media Center compatible--is called Video encoder, not MPEG2 decoder.
>>>>> How do
>>>>> I disable or change the priority of this encoder?
>>>>>
>>>>> Just to state the obvious, when I go to analog the ehShell service
>>>>> drops to
>>>>> zero % cpu usage. Then in selecting an HDTV channel it goes to 20-80%
>>>>> cpu
>>>>> usage.
>>>>>
>>>>> The error in ehRecvr:
>>>>> [2007/04/28 20:49:39.734] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't
>>>>> get
>>>>> IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
>>>>> means the video data is not being processed by the ehShell.
>>>>>
>>>>> If it is trying to use an encoder that is not MCE compatible. That
>>>>> would
>>>>> make sense.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, how can I clear my registry from the references to the tuner2 of
>>>>> the
>>>>> Hauppauge 500 MCE dual analog tuner. With the Hauppauge, I got
>>>>> consistently
>>>>> got the Loss of Signal error in analog. I returned the Hauppage.
>>>>>
>>>>> I currently get the Loss of Signal error in analog with the DVICO
>>>>> FusionHDTV
>>>>> hybrid. This tuner also lacks a hardware MPEG2 encoder. It has the
>>>>> UnifiedAVStream driver that comprises the MPEG2 encoder, presumably.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, what about the KramMCE drivers detailed at:
>>>>> http://www.hdtvtunerinfo.com/tvencodersexplained.html
>>>>> Will this work for me?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Rob Horn is a dude.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

On Apr 29, 11:20 am, Media Center Rob
<MediaCenter...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> I get the Tuner Not Available error in analog only the Media Center.
>
> The tuner is there and works in Beyond TV. The drivers are the latest. It
> is the VBox 164 E dual analog/HD tuner. I just plopped down for the premium
> Nvidia decoder. Uninstalled the demo and installed the purchased one.
>
> errors are indicated in ehRecvr.log
>
> Does anyone have any ideas.
>
> [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't get
> IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
>
> [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder::Initialize: Failed to get_Init
> 0x80004005
>
> [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder(0)::Initialize: Adding Services
>
> [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder(0)::AddServices: No GLID Plugin
> matches this recorder, 0x0
>
> [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder(2)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't get
> IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
>
> [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder::Initialize: Failed to get_Init
> 0x80004005
>
> [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder(2)::Initialize: Adding Services
>
> [2007/04/28 09:27:18.265] CDigitalRecorder(2)::AddServices: No GLID Plugin
> matches this recorder, 0x0
>
> [2007/04/28 09:27:18.281] CDigitalRecorder(1)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't get
> IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
>
> [2007/04/28 09:27:18.281] CDigitalRecorder::Initialize: Failed to get_Init
> 0x80004005
>
> [2007/04/28 09:27:18.281] CDigitalRecorder(1)::Initialize: Adding Services
>
> [2007/04/28 09:27:18.281] CDigitalRecorder(1)::AddServices: No GLID Plugin
> matches this recorder, 0x0
>
> [2007/04/28 09:27:22.031] CAnalogRecorder::Initialize: Failed to
> GetCapabilitiesKey 0x80070002
>
> [2007/04/28 09:27:22.062] CAnalogRecorder(3)::AddServices: Can't get base
> filter for IMpeg2Data, 0x80004002
>
> [2007/04/28 09:27:22.062] CAnalogRecorder(3)::Initialize: Could not Add
> Services, 0x80004002
>
> [2007/04/28 09:27:22.265] CAnalogRecorder::Initialize: Failed to
> GetCapabilitiesKey 0x80070002
>
> [2007/04/28 09:27:22.390] CAnalogRecorder::Initialize: Failed to
> GetCapabilitiesKey 0x80070002
>
> [2007/04/28 09:27:22.390] CAnalogRecorder(4)::AddServices: Can't get base
> filter for IMpeg2Data, 0x80004002
>
> [2007/04/28 09:27:22.390] CAnalogRecorder(4)::Initialize: Could not Add
> Services, 0x80004002
>
> [2007/04/28 20:45:21.765] CRecorder(0)::FireTuningChanged:
>
> [2007/04/28 20:45:21.843] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't get
> IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
>
> [2007/04/28 20:45:23.671] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 0, 2
>
> [2007/04/28 20:45:23.671] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StartServices: Can't get GLID
> for recorder, 0x80004002
>
> [2007/04/28 20:45:23.671] CRecorder(0)::RunProc: Could not Start Services,
> 0x80004002
>
> [2007/04/28 20:45:59.421] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StopServices: Can't get GLID
> for recorder, 0x80004002
>
> [2007/04/28 20:45:59.421] CRecorder(0)::InternalStop: Could not Stop
> Services, 0x80004002
>
> [2007/04/28 20:45:59.625] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 2, 0
>
> [2007/04/28 20:45:59.718] CRecorder(4)::FireTuningChanged:
>
> [2007/04/28 20:46:01.421] CRecorder(4)::RunProc: Could not Record, 0xc0040524
>
> [2007/04/28 20:46:01.437] CRecorder(4)::FireTunerError: +++ 0xc0040524 +++
>
> [2007/04/28 20:46:01.578] CRecorder(4)::FireTuningChanged:
>
> [2007/04/28 20:46:02.359] CRecorder(4)::RunProc: Could not Record, 0xc0040524
>
> [2007/04/28 20:46:02.359] CRecorder(4)::FireTunerError: +++ 0xc0040524 +++
>
> [2007/04/28 20:46:24.390] CRecorder(4)::FireTuningChanged:
>
> [2007/04/28 20:46:25.093] CRecorder(4)::RunProc: Could not Record, 0xc0040524
>
> [2007/04/28 20:46:25.093] CRecorder(4)::FireTunerError: +++ 0xc0040524 +++
>
> [2007/04/28 20:46:25.125] CRecorder(4)::FireTuningChanged:
>
> [2007/04/28 20:46:25.796] CRecorder(4)::RunProc: Could not Record, 0xc0040524
>
> [2007/04/28 20:46:25.796] CRecorder(4)::FireTunerError: +++ 0xc0040524 +++
>
> [2007/04/28 20:47:00.921] CRecorder(0)::FireTuningChanged:
>
> [2007/04/28 20:47:00.921] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't get
> IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
>
> [2007/04/28 20:47:02.406] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 0, 2
>
> [2007/04/28 20:47:02.406] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StartServices: Can't get GLID
> for recorder, 0x80004002
>
> [2007/04/28 20:47:02.406] CRecorder(0)::RunProc: Could not Start Services,
> 0x80004002
>
> [2007/04/28 20:47:18.609] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StopServices: Can't get GLID
> for recorder, 0x80004002
>
> [2007/04/28 20:47:18.609] CRecorder(0)::InternalStop: Could not Stop
> Services, 0x80004002
>
> [2007/04/28 20:47:18.734] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 2, 0
>
> [2007/04/28 20:49:19.062] CRecorder(0)::FireTuningChanged:
>
> [2007/04/28 20:49:19.062] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't get
> IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
>
> [2007/04/28 20:49:19.453] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 0, 2
>
> [2007/04/28 20:49:19.453] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StartServices: Can't get GLID
> for recorder, 0x80004002
>
> [2007/04/28 20:49:19.453] CRecorder(0)::RunProc: Could not Start Services,
> 0x80004002
>
> [2007/04/28 20:49:31.171] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StopServices: Can't get GLID
> for recorder, 0x80004002
>
> [2007/04/28 20:49:31.171] CRecorder(0)::InternalStop: Could not Stop
> Services, 0x80004002
>
> [2007/04/28 20:49:31.281] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 2, 0
>
> [2007/04/28 20:49:31.328] CRecorder(4)::FireTuningChanged:
>
> [2007/04/28 20:49:32.046] CRecorder(4)::RunProc: Could not Record, 0xc0040524
>
> [2007/04/28 20:49:32.046] CRecorder(4)::FireTunerError: +++ 0xc0040524 +++
>
> [2007/04/28 20:49:32.125] CRecorder(4)::FireTuningChanged:
>
> [2007/04/28 20:49:32.843] CRecorder(4)::RunProc: Could not Record, 0xc0040524
>
> [2007/04/28 20:49:32.843] CRecorder(4)::FireTunerError: +++ 0xc0040524 +++
>
> [2007/04/28 20:49:39.734] CRecorder(0)::FireTuningChanged:
>
> [2007/04/28 20:49:39.734] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't get
> IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
>
> [2007/04/28 20:49:40.093] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 0, 2
>
> [2007/04/28 20:49:40.093] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StartServices: Can't get GLID
> for recorder, 0x80004002
>
> [2007/04/28 20:49:40.093] CRecorder(0)::RunProc: Could not Start Services,
> 0x80004002
>
> [2007/04/28 20:50:30.281] CDigitalRecorder(0)::StopServices: Can't get GLID
> for recorder, 0x80004002
>
> [2007/04/28 20:50:30.281] CRecorder(0)::InternalStop: Could not Stop
> Services, 0x80004002
>
> [2007/04/28 20:50:30.421] CRecorder(0)::FireTunerStateChanged: 2, 0
>
> --
> Rob Horn is a dude.

See

http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/archi...11/479928.aspx
http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/archi...17/534559.aspx

or many of Aaron Stebner's other blogs.

He is "the man" ! Very responsive also!

I have a DVICO DVB-T that went missing, and between the two referenced
blogs (Aaron pointed me to the one about the services after checking
my MCE logs when the first only partially fixed it) it is working
again. If there is a problem with your analog tuner, Aaron will know.

Try the remedy in both blogs in order, and see how you go. Aaron's
email contact is there also.

CF

I will try to apply the advice of CSM1.

Over the weekend I added a second MPEG2 encoder (not needed, acc. CSM1).
The ATI Media Center Encoder in addition to the MainConcept Media Center
Encoder.
I fooled around with the filter tool DSF to change the merit of the Encoders
http://www.hdtvtunerinfo.com/tvencodersexplained.html
I got the VBox tuner to change states from Tuner not Available to the Loss
of Signal Error and to generate intermittent audio. The tools for tweaking
described by DSM1 as the site seem promising.

I assume that I need to make sure to install only one

1-MCE encoder (remove 1 MPEG encoder)
2- properly select the preferred audio and video MPEG2 encoder and a
decoder (graphedit tools)that will work with it. I have the (Platinum NVidia
PureVideo.)
3- then run my system.

When I checked the merit of the MainConcept over the weekend, it was set to
0x002000 (do not use). Increasing it to 0x08000 (preferred) did not help, as
expected. I do not have the ehRecvr log, but the ehRecvr service was
consuming a lot of cpu %, while I was getting intermittent sound.

Also, I just uninstalled Media Player 11, reinstalled Media Center Rollup,
then reinstalled the Media Player 11, which installs a Microsoft version of
the MPEG2 decoder, presumably.

Let me know if there are other suggestions.
--
Rob Horn is a dude.


"JW" wrote:

> The problem is the large amoung to CPU power that software encoders consume
> ...
"CSM1" <nomail@nomoremail.com> wrote in message
> news:L1F3i.6511$RX.1796@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net...
> > Very Good.
> > It is too bad that MCE did not include encoders in the original code.
> >
> > --
> > CSM1
> > http://www.carlmcmillan.com
> > --
> > "JW" <nospam@no.spam> wrote in message
> > news:u4w0QyZmHHA.4316@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >>I guess I did not word it correctly by saying the MC would only accept
> >>encoded video from the card/drivers and had not encoder software of its
> >>own or that it used. I did not mean to imply ...
> >> "CSM1" <nomail@nomoremail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:wzm3i.8569$2v1.2251@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net...
> >>>I disagree with you, JW.
> >>>
> >>> I have a Kworld ATSC 110 Analog and Digital tuner Card, it does not
> >>> have a hardware encoder.
> >>> I did get it to work in MCE 2005 with a software Encoder.
> >>> It is not recommended, but it does work on my system.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> There is a list of Software Encoders that work with MCE 2005.
> >>> I am using the Arcsoft MCE software Encoder (32 bit) (First one in the
> >>> list)
> >>> http://www.tv-cards.com/messageboard....php?pid=53076
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> CSM1
> >>> http://www.carlmcmillan.com
> >>> --
> >>> "JW" <nospam@no.spam> wrote in message
> >>> news:uAH%23GCWmHHA.3888@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >>>> You can't make it work with MC since MC requires that it receive
> >>>> already encoded video from the tuner/video capture card drivers, MC
> >>>> itself does not have or use andysoftware encoders
> >>>>
> >>>> "Media Center Rob" <MediaCenterRob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >>>> message news:4FEA7216-4BC8-4916-9D40-AEDB12FC6772@microsoft.com...
> >>>>> Dear Jolt and JW and anyone else who can help,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> VBox supplies the MainConcept MPEG2 (demo) encoder. I have downloaded
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> latest version of the MainConcept (demo) encoder and the tech at VBox
> >>>>> seems
> >>>>> to think this should. work. The tech at VBox has had the experience
> >>>>> of the
> >>>>> Cat's Eye 164e working in analog, with the software encoder installed.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I understand now about the part that these hybrid tuners do not have a
> >>>>> chip
> >>>>> onboard to convert the analog stream into digital. How can I make the
> >>>>> MainConcept Encoder the preferred.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I do have an ATI encoder, according the MC XP Diag Tool 2.5, but this
> >>>>> is not
> >>>>> Media Center compatible--is called Video encoder, not MPEG2 decoder.
> >>>>> How do
> >>>>> I disable or change the priority of this encoder?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Just to state the obvious, when I go to analog the ehShell service
> >>>>> drops to
> >>>>> zero % cpu usage. Then in selecting an HDTV channel it goes to 20-80%
> >>>>> cpu
> >>>>> usage.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The error in ehRecvr:
> >>>>> [2007/04/28 20:49:39.734] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't
> >>>>> get
> >>>>> IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
> >>>>> means the video data is not being processed by the ehShell.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If it is trying to use an encoder that is not MCE compatible. That
> >>>>> would
> >>>>> make sense.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Also, how can I clear my registry from the references to the tuner2 of
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> Hauppauge 500 MCE dual analog tuner. With the Hauppauge, I got
> >>>>> consistently
> >>>>> got the Loss of Signal error in analog. I returned the Hauppage.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I currently get the Loss of Signal error in analog with the DVICO
> >>>>> FusionHDTV
> >>>>> hybrid. This tuner also lacks a hardware MPEG2 encoder. It has the
> >>>>> UnifiedAVStream driver that comprises the MPEG2 encoder, presumably.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Also, what about the KramMCE drivers detailed at:
> >>>>> http://www.hdtvtunerinfo.com/tvencodersexplained.html
> >>>>> Will this work for me?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Rob Horn is a dude.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>

Hello Everyone,

I was able to get analog TV last night on one of the hybrid tuners
(FusionHDTV). The keys to the solution are:
1) only one MPEG2 encoder can be installed at once;
2) remove one MPEG2 encoder completely before trying another;
3) confirm your tuner hardware has necessary pins (graphedit tools);
4) make sure the filter merit is set properly to allow the system to choose
the encoder of choice (DSFMgr).

I removed both the MainConcept and the KRAM (ATIMCEE) encoders and the ATI
MCE Plug in. Then I reinstalled the KRAM using the advice of Russ at
http://www.hdtvtunerinfo.com/tvencodersexplained.html steps 1-5.
There are the graphedit tools and some great advice at
http://www.tv-cards.com/messageboard....php?pid=53076
Now I have the DSFMgr app and the GraphEdit Tools on my desktop, each which
have a role in the solution above.

--
Rob Horn is a dude.


"Media Center Rob" wrote:

> I will try to apply the advice of CSM1.
>
> Over the weekend I added a second MPEG2 encoder (not needed, acc. CSM1).
> The ATI Media Center Encoder in addition to the MainConcept Media Center
> Encoder.
> I fooled around with the filter tool DSF to change the merit of the Encoders
> http://www.hdtvtunerinfo.com/tvencodersexplained.html
> I got the VBox tuner to change states from Tuner not Available to the Loss
> of Signal Error and to generate intermittent audio. The tools for tweaking
> described by DSM1 as the site seem promising.
>
> I assume that I need to make sure to install only one
>
> 1-MCE encoder (remove 1 MPEG encoder)
> 2- properly select the preferred audio and video MPEG2 encoder and a
> decoder (graphedit tools)that will work with it. I have the (Platinum NVidia
> PureVideo.)
> 3- then run my system.
>
> When I checked the merit of the MainConcept over the weekend, it was set to
> 0x002000 (do not use). Increasing it to 0x08000 (preferred) did not help, as
> expected. I do not have the ehRecvr log, but the ehRecvr service was
> consuming a lot of cpu %, while I was getting intermittent sound.
>
> Also, I just uninstalled Media Player 11, reinstalled Media Center Rollup,
> then reinstalled the Media Player 11, which installs a Microsoft version of
> the MPEG2 decoder, presumably.
>
> Let me know if there are other suggestions.
> --
> Rob Horn is a dude.
>
>
> "JW" wrote:
>
> > The problem is the large amoung to CPU power that software encoders consume
> > ...
> "CSM1" <nomail@nomoremail.com> wrote in message
> > news:L1F3i.6511$RX.1796@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net...
> > > Very Good.
> > > It is too bad that MCE did not include encoders in the original code.
> > >
> > > --
> > > CSM1
> > > http://www.carlmcmillan.com
> > > --
> > > "JW" <nospam@no.spam> wrote in message
> > > news:u4w0QyZmHHA.4316@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > >>I guess I did not word it correctly by saying the MC would only accept
> > >>encoded video from the card/drivers and had not encoder software of its
> > >>own or that it used. I did not mean to imply ...
> > >> "CSM1" <nomail@nomoremail.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:wzm3i.8569$2v1.2251@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net...
> > >>>I disagree with you, JW.
> > >>>
> > >>> I have a Kworld ATSC 110 Analog and Digital tuner Card, it does not
> > >>> have a hardware encoder.
> > >>> I did get it to work in MCE 2005 with a software Encoder.
> > >>> It is not recommended, but it does work on my system.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> There is a list of Software Encoders that work with MCE 2005.
> > >>> I am using the Arcsoft MCE software Encoder (32 bit) (First one in the
> > >>> list)
> > >>> http://www.tv-cards.com/messageboard....php?pid=53076
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> CSM1
> > >>> http://www.carlmcmillan.com
> > >>> --
> > >>> "JW" <nospam@no.spam> wrote in message
> > >>> news:uAH%23GCWmHHA.3888@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > >>>> You can't make it work with MC since MC requires that it receive
> > >>>> already encoded video from the tuner/video capture card drivers, MC
> > >>>> itself does not have or use andysoftware encoders
> > >>>>
> > >>>> "Media Center Rob" <MediaCenterRob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> > >>>> message news:4FEA7216-4BC8-4916-9D40-AEDB12FC6772@microsoft.com...
> > >>>>> Dear Jolt and JW and anyone else who can help,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> VBox supplies the MainConcept MPEG2 (demo) encoder. I have downloaded
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>> latest version of the MainConcept (demo) encoder and the tech at VBox
> > >>>>> seems
> > >>>>> to think this should. work. The tech at VBox has had the experience
> > >>>>> of the
> > >>>>> Cat's Eye 164e working in analog, with the software encoder installed.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I understand now about the part that these hybrid tuners do not have a
> > >>>>> chip
> > >>>>> onboard to convert the analog stream into digital. How can I make the
> > >>>>> MainConcept Encoder the preferred.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I do have an ATI encoder, according the MC XP Diag Tool 2.5, but this
> > >>>>> is not
> > >>>>> Media Center compatible--is called Video encoder, not MPEG2 decoder.
> > >>>>> How do
> > >>>>> I disable or change the priority of this encoder?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Just to state the obvious, when I go to analog the ehShell service
> > >>>>> drops to
> > >>>>> zero % cpu usage. Then in selecting an HDTV channel it goes to 20-80%
> > >>>>> cpu
> > >>>>> usage.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> The error in ehRecvr:
> > >>>>> [2007/04/28 20:49:39.734] CDigitalRecorder(0)::GetVideoEncoder: Can't
> > >>>>> get
> > >>>>> IVideoEncoder from Service Provider. hr = 80004005
> > >>>>> means the video data is not being processed by the ehShell.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> If it is trying to use an encoder that is not MCE compatible. That
> > >>>>> would
> > >>>>> make sense.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Also, how can I clear my registry from the references to the tuner2 of
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>> Hauppauge 500 MCE dual analog tuner. With the Hauppauge, I got
> > >>>>> consistently
> > >>>>> got the Loss of Signal error in analog. I returned the Hauppage.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I currently get the Loss of Signal error in analog with the DVICO
> > >>>>> FusionHDTV
> > >>>>> hybrid. This tuner also lacks a hardware MPEG2 encoder. It has the
> > >>>>> UnifiedAVStream driver that comprises the MPEG2 encoder, presumably.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Also, what about the KramMCE drivers detailed at:
> > >>>>> http://www.hdtvtunerinfo.com/tvencodersexplained.html
> > >>>>> Will this work for me?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> Rob Horn is a dude.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >