Windows Scroll Bar keeps jumping to top in folders

I am running Windows XP on my media center PC. I have a great number of new
photos to sort, that get sorted into a number of subfolders. I have two
folder windows open. One has new pictures The other the folder i want to drag
certian pictures into. I had this problem in the past, now it has gotten much
worse. In the folder of new pictures, I scroll down to find all the (let's
say for instance) pictures of flowers and want to drag them one by one as i
find them over to the "Flowers" Folder I have open in a separte window. I
have scrolled down, grab the picture i wnat nad drag it over to the Flowers
folder. Both folders insrtantly scroll back to the top.

I was scrolled down within the folder of the new pics trying to locate each
of the flower pictures, but once i drag one from the folder, the scroll bar
jumps to the top and I lose my place. I have to scroll down each time to find
where I was if I want to continue.

I used to have this problem intermittently in folders that had many hundreds
of pictures in them, but the scroll bar would not return to the top. After
dragging an item from one folder to another, the one it came from would jump
to somewhere randomly in the middle or bottom of the scroll bar.

Now, in both the folder I am taking items from and the one receiving it, the
scrollbars are BOTH jumping to the top of their respective windows.

The situation has made the sorting I need to do next to impossible.

I'm not really following, are you saying the file list (or thumbnails)
returns to first items in the window the second you drag something out of
the windows?

Does this also happen if you use the copy (or cut) command rather than
dragging?
--
James
Orlando (Goofy says "Hey"), Florida

"Patty P" <Patty P@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BE5BBC35-BCAE-466F-84D3-763F8AF3B513@microsoft.com...
> I am running Windows XP on my media center PC. I have a great number of
> new
> photos to sort, that get sorted into a number of subfolders. I have two
> folder windows open. One has new pictures The other the folder i want to
> drag
> certian pictures into. I had this problem in the past, now it has gotten
> much
> worse. In the folder of new pictures, I scroll down to find all the (let's
> say for instance) pictures of flowers and want to drag them one by one as
> i
> find them over to the "Flowers" Folder I have open in a separte window. I
> have scrolled down, grab the picture i wnat nad drag it over to the
> Flowers
> folder. Both folders insrtantly scroll back to the top.
>
> I was scrolled down within the folder of the new pics trying to locate
> each
> of the flower pictures, but once i drag one from the folder, the scroll
> bar
> jumps to the top and I lose my place. I have to scroll down each time to
> find
> where I was if I want to continue.
>
> I used to have this problem intermittently in folders that had many
> hundreds
> of pictures in them, but the scroll bar would not return to the top. After
> dragging an item from one folder to another, the one it came from would
> jump
> to somewhere randomly in the middle or bottom of the scroll bar.
>
> Now, in both the folder I am taking items from and the one receiving it,
> the
> scrollbars are BOTH jumping to the top of their respective windows.
>
> The situation has made the sorting I need to do next to impossible.

Yes, the collection of thumbnails in the window returns to the top. This
happens to any change in the folder, whether dragging a thumbnail out or
using cut and paste to movce it. The exact sequence is that once I perform
the removal, the entire folder I took it from goes blank white (like an empty
window) momentarily, then the thumbnails pop back up and the scroll is at the
top of the folder. Last night, it momentarily bounced to the bottom of the
folder of thumbnails, then back to the top.

The other open folder of thumbnails I pasted the item into or dragged it to
does the same thing. Any change to any folder of thumbnails (taking things
out or adding them) causes the same event to occur.

I tried using list viewing mode (not suitable for sorting pics, but gave it
a try) and immediately after an item was dragged to a folder in a different
window, the source window flashed blank then jumped back earlier in the list
but not to the top (not to the first page of the list view). I am using two
windows about half my monitor width for moving files from one folder to
another.

Patty P

"Jaime" wrote:

> I'm not really following, are you saying the file list (or thumbnails)
> returns to first items in the window the second you drag something out of
> the windows?
>
> Does this also happen if you use the copy (or cut) command rather than
> dragging?
> --
> James
> Orlando (Goofy says "Hey"), Florida
>
> "Patty P" <Patty P@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:BE5BBC35-BCAE-466F-84D3-763F8AF3B513@microsoft.com...
> > I am running Windows XP on my media center PC. I have a great number of
> > new
> > photos to sort, that get sorted into a number of subfolders. I have two
> > folder windows open. One has new pictures The other the folder i want to
> > drag
> > certian pictures into. I had this problem in the past, now it has gotten
> > much
> > worse. In the folder of new pictures, I scroll down to find all the (let's
> > say for instance) pictures of flowers and want to drag them one by one as
> > i
> > find them over to the "Flowers" Folder I have open in a separte window. I
> > have scrolled down, grab the picture i wnat nad drag it over to the
> > Flowers
> > folder. Both folders insrtantly scroll back to the top.
> >
> > I was scrolled down within the folder of the new pics trying to locate
> > each
> > of the flower pictures, but once i drag one from the folder, the scroll
> > bar
> > jumps to the top and I lose my place. I have to scroll down each time to
> > find
> > where I was if I want to continue.
> >
> > I used to have this problem intermittently in folders that had many
> > hundreds
> > of pictures in them, but the scroll bar would not return to the top. After
> > dragging an item from one folder to another, the one it came from would
> > jump
> > to somewhere randomly in the middle or bottom of the scroll bar.
> >
> > Now, in both the folder I am taking items from and the one receiving it,
> > the
> > scrollbars are BOTH jumping to the top of their respective windows.
> >
> > The situation has made the sorting I need to do next to impossible.
>
>

Most of that is normal Windows behavior when the the auto-arrange feature is
on. Anytime you remove files from a folder, Windows will resort the list of
remaining files. If you have a folder with a lot of files/thumbnails (and
your PC/graphic card isn't fast enough), you will probably get a momentary
white-out as the PC redraws the contents.
--
James
Orlando (Goofy says "Hey"), Florida

"Patty P" <PattyP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:79DA3D39-5A95-4F56-B04C-4B3739EFBAC9@microsoft.com...
> Yes, the collection of thumbnails in the window returns to the top. This
> happens to any change in the folder, whether dragging a thumbnail out or
> using cut and paste to movce it. The exact sequence is that once I perform
> the removal, the entire folder I took it from goes blank white (like an
> empty
> window) momentarily, then the thumbnails pop back up and the scroll is at
> the
> top of the folder. Last night, it momentarily bounced to the bottom of the
> folder of thumbnails, then back to the top.
>
> The other open folder of thumbnails I pasted the item into or dragged it
> to
> does the same thing. Any change to any folder of thumbnails (taking things
> out or adding them) causes the same event to occur.
>
> I tried using list viewing mode (not suitable for sorting pics, but gave
> it
> a try) and immediately after an item was dragged to a folder in a
> different
> window, the source window flashed blank then jumped back earlier in the
> list
> but not to the top (not to the first page of the list view). I am using
> two
> windows about half my monitor width for moving files from one folder to
> another.
>
> Patty P
>
> "Jaime" wrote:
>
>> I'm not really following, are you saying the file list (or thumbnails)
>> returns to first items in the window the second you drag something out of
>> the windows?
>>
>> Does this also happen if you use the copy (or cut) command rather than
>> dragging?
>> --
>> James
>> Orlando (Goofy says "Hey"), Florida
>>
>> "Patty P" <Patty P@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:BE5BBC35-BCAE-466F-84D3-763F8AF3B513@microsoft.com...
>> > I am running Windows XP on my media center PC. I have a great number of
>> > new
>> > photos to sort, that get sorted into a number of subfolders. I have
>> > two
>> > folder windows open. One has new pictures The other the folder i want
>> > to
>> > drag
>> > certian pictures into. I had this problem in the past, now it has
>> > gotten
>> > much
>> > worse. In the folder of new pictures, I scroll down to find all the
>> > (let's
>> > say for instance) pictures of flowers and want to drag them one by one
>> > as
>> > i
>> > find them over to the "Flowers" Folder I have open in a separte window.
>> > I
>> > have scrolled down, grab the picture i wnat nad drag it over to the
>> > Flowers
>> > folder. Both folders insrtantly scroll back to the top.
>> >
>> > I was scrolled down within the folder of the new pics trying to locate
>> > each
>> > of the flower pictures, but once i drag one from the folder, the scroll
>> > bar
>> > jumps to the top and I lose my place. I have to scroll down each time
>> > to
>> > find
>> > where I was if I want to continue.
>> >
>> > I used to have this problem intermittently in folders that had many
>> > hundreds
>> > of pictures in them, but the scroll bar would not return to the top.
>> > After
>> > dragging an item from one folder to another, the one it came from would
>> > jump
>> > to somewhere randomly in the middle or bottom of the scroll bar.
>> >
>> > Now, in both the folder I am taking items from and the one receiving
>> > it,
>> > the
>> > scrollbars are BOTH jumping to the top of their respective windows.
>> >
>> > The situation has made the sorting I need to do next to impossible.
>>
>>

Okay, so where do I turn off "auto arrange"? I have not changed any settings
recently, but I notice settings are changed sometimes after I get a Windows
update. I had disabled Indexing a few weeks back as it was slowing my
computer down a lot. As soon as I disabled it, speed was back to normal.
Windows updated in the last few days, Indexing was turned back on after that
update and this scroll bar problem started. Disbling Indexing does not fix
the scrollbar problem.

I have been able in the past to drag things to other folders without the
scroll bar moving except to allow for the things removed. It never jumped to
the top of the folder before. This all went goofy after a recent automatic
update from Windows during the night.

"Jaime" wrote:

> Most of that is normal Windows behavior when the the auto-arrange feature is
> on. Anytime you remove files from a folder, Windows will resort the list of
> remaining files. If you have a folder with a lot of files/thumbnails (and
> your PC/graphic card isn't fast enough), you will probably get a momentary
> white-out as the PC redraws the contents.
> --
> James
> Orlando (Goofy says "Hey"), Florida
>
> "Patty P" <PattyP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:79DA3D39-5A95-4F56-B04C-4B3739EFBAC9@microsoft.com...
> > Yes, the collection of thumbnails in the window returns to the top. This
> > happens to any change in the folder, whether dragging a thumbnail out or
> > using cut and paste to movce it. The exact sequence is that once I perform
> > the removal, the entire folder I took it from goes blank white (like an
> > empty
> > window) momentarily, then the thumbnails pop back up and the scroll is at
> > the
> > top of the folder. Last night, it momentarily bounced to the bottom of the
> > folder of thumbnails, then back to the top.
> >
> > The other open folder of thumbnails I pasted the item into or dragged it
> > to
> > does the same thing. Any change to any folder of thumbnails (taking things
> > out or adding them) causes the same event to occur.
> >
> > I tried using list viewing mode (not suitable for sorting pics, but gave
> > it
> > a try) and immediately after an item was dragged to a folder in a
> > different
> > window, the source window flashed blank then jumped back earlier in the
> > list
> > but not to the top (not to the first page of the list view). I am using
> > two
> > windows about half my monitor width for moving files from one folder to
> > another.
> >
> > Patty P
> >
> > "Jaime" wrote:
> >
> >> I'm not really following, are you saying the file list (or thumbnails)
> >> returns to first items in the window the second you drag something out of
> >> the windows?
> >>
> >> Does this also happen if you use the copy (or cut) command rather than
> >> dragging?
> >> --
> >> James
> >> Orlando (Goofy says "Hey"), Florida
> >>
> >> "Patty P" <Patty P@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:BE5BBC35-BCAE-466F-84D3-763F8AF3B513@microsoft.com...
> >> > I am running Windows XP on my media center PC. I have a great number of
> >> > new
> >> > photos to sort, that get sorted into a number of subfolders. I have
> >> > two
> >> > folder windows open. One has new pictures The other the folder i want
> >> > to
> >> > drag
> >> > certian pictures into. I had this problem in the past, now it has
> >> > gotten
> >> > much
> >> > worse. In the folder of new pictures, I scroll down to find all the
> >> > (let's
> >> > say for instance) pictures of flowers and want to drag them one by one
> >> > as
> >> > i
> >> > find them over to the "Flowers" Folder I have open in a separte window.
> >> > I
> >> > have scrolled down, grab the picture i wnat nad drag it over to the
> >> > Flowers
> >> > folder. Both folders insrtantly scroll back to the top.
> >> >
> >> > I was scrolled down within the folder of the new pics trying to locate
> >> > each
> >> > of the flower pictures, but once i drag one from the folder, the scroll
> >> > bar
> >> > jumps to the top and I lose my place. I have to scroll down each time
> >> > to
> >> > find
> >> > where I was if I want to continue.
> >> >
> >> > I used to have this problem intermittently in folders that had many
> >> > hundreds
> >> > of pictures in them, but the scroll bar would not return to the top.
> >> > After
> >> > dragging an item from one folder to another, the one it came from would
> >> > jump
> >> > to somewhere randomly in the middle or bottom of the scroll bar.
> >> >
> >> > Now, in both the folder I am taking items from and the one receiving
> >> > it,
> >> > the
> >> > scrollbars are BOTH jumping to the top of their respective windows.
> >> >
> >> > The situation has made the sorting I need to do next to impossible.
> >>
> >>
>

Right-click on the folder window (but not on a thumbnail) and under "Arrange
Icons By", you should see a choice for Auto Arrange - make sure it is
unchecked. There also is a Grid option, but I don't think that would cause
the jumping to the top (not sure about that behavior).
--
James
Orlando (Goofy says "Hey!"), FL

"Patty P" <PattyP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:924058FE-49B7-4DF0-BE49-9DD14B298734@microsoft.com...
> Okay, so where do I turn off "auto arrange"? I have not changed any
> settings
> recently, but I notice settings are changed sometimes after I get a
> Windows
> update. I had disabled Indexing a few weeks back as it was slowing my
> computer down a lot. As soon as I disabled it, speed was back to normal.
> Windows updated in the last few days, Indexing was turned back on after
> that
> update and this scroll bar problem started. Disbling Indexing does not fix
> the scrollbar problem.
>
> I have been able in the past to drag things to other folders without the
> scroll bar moving except to allow for the things removed. It never jumped
> to
> the top of the folder before. This all went goofy after a recent automatic
> update from Windows during the night.
>
> "Jaime" wrote:
>
>> Most of that is normal Windows behavior when the the auto-arrange feature
>> is
>> on. Anytime you remove files from a folder, Windows will resort the list
>> of
>> remaining files. If you have a folder with a lot of files/thumbnails (and
>> your PC/graphic card isn't fast enough), you will probably get a
>> momentary
>> white-out as the PC redraws the contents.
>> --
>> James
>> Orlando (Goofy says "Hey"), Florida
>>
>> "Patty P" <PattyP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:79DA3D39-5A95-4F56-B04C-4B3739EFBAC9@microsoft.com...
>> > Yes, the collection of thumbnails in the window returns to the top.
>> > This
>> > happens to any change in the folder, whether dragging a thumbnail out
>> > or
>> > using cut and paste to movce it. The exact sequence is that once I
>> > perform
>> > the removal, the entire folder I took it from goes blank white (like an
>> > empty
>> > window) momentarily, then the thumbnails pop back up and the scroll is
>> > at
>> > the
>> > top of the folder. Last night, it momentarily bounced to the bottom of
>> > the
>> > folder of thumbnails, then back to the top.
>> >
>> > The other open folder of thumbnails I pasted the item into or dragged
>> > it
>> > to
>> > does the same thing. Any change to any folder of thumbnails (taking
>> > things
>> > out or adding them) causes the same event to occur.
>> >
>> > I tried using list viewing mode (not suitable for sorting pics, but
>> > gave
>> > it
>> > a try) and immediately after an item was dragged to a folder in a
>> > different
>> > window, the source window flashed blank then jumped back earlier in the
>> > list
>> > but not to the top (not to the first page of the list view). I am using
>> > two
>> > windows about half my monitor width for moving files from one folder to
>> > another.
>> >
>> > Patty P
>> >
>> > "Jaime" wrote:
>> >
>> >> I'm not really following, are you saying the file list (or thumbnails)
>> >> returns to first items in the window the second you drag something out
>> >> of
>> >> the windows?
>> >>
>> >> Does this also happen if you use the copy (or cut) command rather than
>> >> dragging?
>> >> --
>> >> James
>> >> Orlando (Goofy says "Hey"), Florida
>> >>
>> >> "Patty P" <Patty P@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:BE5BBC35-BCAE-466F-84D3-763F8AF3B513@microsoft.com...
>> >> > I am running Windows XP on my media center PC. I have a great number
>> >> > of
>> >> > new
>> >> > photos to sort, that get sorted into a number of subfolders. I have
>> >> > two
>> >> > folder windows open. One has new pictures The other the folder i
>> >> > want
>> >> > to
>> >> > drag
>> >> > certian pictures into. I had this problem in the past, now it has
>> >> > gotten
>> >> > much
>> >> > worse. In the folder of new pictures, I scroll down to find all the
>> >> > (let's
>> >> > say for instance) pictures of flowers and want to drag them one by
>> >> > one
>> >> > as
>> >> > i
>> >> > find them over to the "Flowers" Folder I have open in a separte
>> >> > window.
>> >> > I
>> >> > have scrolled down, grab the picture i wnat nad drag it over to the
>> >> > Flowers
>> >> > folder. Both folders insrtantly scroll back to the top.
>> >> >
>> >> > I was scrolled down within the folder of the new pics trying to
>> >> > locate
>> >> > each
>> >> > of the flower pictures, but once i drag one from the folder, the
>> >> > scroll
>> >> > bar
>> >> > jumps to the top and I lose my place. I have to scroll down each
>> >> > time
>> >> > to
>> >> > find
>> >> > where I was if I want to continue.
>> >> >
>> >> > I used to have this problem intermittently in folders that had many
>> >> > hundreds
>> >> > of pictures in them, but the scroll bar would not return to the top.
>> >> > After
>> >> > dragging an item from one folder to another, the one it came from
>> >> > would
>> >> > jump
>> >> > to somewhere randomly in the middle or bottom of the scroll bar.
>> >> >
>> >> > Now, in both the folder I am taking items from and the one receiving
>> >> > it,
>> >> > the
>> >> > scrollbars are BOTH jumping to the top of their respective windows.
>> >> >
>> >> > The situation has made the sorting I need to do next to impossible.
>> >>
>> >>
>>

I opened the two folders, turned off "auto arrange" in both and they act the
same as before. It didn't correct the problem. I trid the "grid" setting and
it did not help.
Any other ideas?

Patty P

"Jaime" wrote:

> Right-click on the folder window (but not on a thumbnail) and under "Arrange
> Icons By", you should see a choice for Auto Arrange - make sure it is
> unchecked. There also is a Grid option, but I don't think that would cause
> the jumping to the top (not sure about that behavior).
> --
> James
> Orlando (Goofy says "Hey!"), FL
>
> "Patty P" <PattyP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:924058FE-49B7-4DF0-BE49-9DD14B298734@microsoft.com...
> > Okay, so where do I turn off "auto arrange"? I have not changed any
> > settings
> > recently, but I notice settings are changed sometimes after I get a
> > Windows
> > update. I had disabled Indexing a few weeks back as it was slowing my
> > computer down a lot. As soon as I disabled it, speed was back to normal.
> > Windows updated in the last few days, Indexing was turned back on after
> > that
> > update and this scroll bar problem started. Disbling Indexing does not fix
> > the scrollbar problem.
> >
> > I have been able in the past to drag things to other folders without the
> > scroll bar moving except to allow for the things removed. It never jumped
> > to
> > the top of the folder before. This all went goofy after a recent automatic
> > update from Windows during the night.
> >
> > "Jaime" wrote:
> >
> >> Most of that is normal Windows behavior when the the auto-arrange feature
> >> is
> >> on. Anytime you remove files from a folder, Windows will resort the list
> >> of
> >> remaining files. If you have a folder with a lot of files/thumbnails (and
> >> your PC/graphic card isn't fast enough), you will probably get a
> >> momentary
> >> white-out as the PC redraws the contents.
> >> --
> >> James
> >> Orlando (Goofy says "Hey"), Florida
> >>
> >> "Patty P" <PattyP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:79DA3D39-5A95-4F56-B04C-4B3739EFBAC9@microsoft.com...
> >> > Yes, the collection of thumbnails in the window returns to the top.
> >> > This
> >> > happens to any change in the folder, whether dragging a thumbnail out
> >> > or
> >> > using cut and paste to movce it. The exact sequence is that once I
> >> > perform
> >> > the removal, the entire folder I took it from goes blank white (like an
> >> > empty
> >> > window) momentarily, then the thumbnails pop back up and the scroll is
> >> > at
> >> > the
> >> > top of the folder. Last night, it momentarily bounced to the bottom of
> >> > the
> >> > folder of thumbnails, then back to the top.
> >> >
> >> > The other open folder of thumbnails I pasted the item into or dragged
> >> > it
> >> > to
> >> > does the same thing. Any change to any folder of thumbnails (taking
> >> > things
> >> > out or adding them) causes the same event to occur.
> >> >
> >> > I tried using list viewing mode (not suitable for sorting pics, but
> >> > gave
> >> > it
> >> > a try) and immediately after an item was dragged to a folder in a
> >> > different
> >> > window, the source window flashed blank then jumped back earlier in the
> >> > list
> >> > but not to the top (not to the first page of the list view). I am using
> >> > two
> >> > windows about half my monitor width for moving files from one folder to
> >> > another.
> >> >
> >> > Patty P
> >> >
> >> > "Jaime" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I'm not really following, are you saying the file list (or thumbnails)
> >> >> returns to first items in the window the second you drag something out
> >> >> of
> >> >> the windows?
> >> >>
> >> >> Does this also happen if you use the copy (or cut) command rather than
> >> >> dragging?
> >> >> --
> >> >> James
> >> >> Orlando (Goofy says "Hey"), Florida
> >> >>
> >> >> "Patty P" <Patty P@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:BE5BBC35-BCAE-466F-84D3-763F8AF3B513@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > I am running Windows XP on my media center PC. I have a great number
> >> >> > of
> >> >> > new
> >> >> > photos to sort, that get sorted into a number of subfolders. I have
> >> >> > two
> >> >> > folder windows open. One has new pictures The other the folder i
> >> >> > want
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > drag
> >> >> > certian pictures into. I had this problem in the past, now it has
> >> >> > gotten
> >> >> > much
> >> >> > worse. In the folder of new pictures, I scroll down to find all the
> >> >> > (let's
> >> >> > say for instance) pictures of flowers and want to drag them one by
> >> >> > one
> >> >> > as
> >> >> > i
> >> >> > find them over to the "Flowers" Folder I have open in a separte
> >> >> > window.
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > have scrolled down, grab the picture i wnat nad drag it over to the
> >> >> > Flowers
> >> >> > folder. Both folders insrtantly scroll back to the top.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I was scrolled down within the folder of the new pics trying to
> >> >> > locate
> >> >> > each
> >> >> > of the flower pictures, but once i drag one from the folder, the
> >> >> > scroll
> >> >> > bar
> >> >> > jumps to the top and I lose my place. I have to scroll down each
> >> >> > time
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > find
> >> >> > where I was if I want to continue.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I used to have this problem intermittently in folders that had many
> >> >> > hundreds
> >> >> > of pictures in them, but the scroll bar would not return to the top.
> >> >> > After
> >> >> > dragging an item from one folder to another, the one it came from
> >> >> > would
> >> >> > jump
> >> >> > to somewhere randomly in the middle or bottom of the scroll bar.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Now, in both the folder I am taking items from and the one receiving
> >> >> > it,
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > scrollbars are BOTH jumping to the top of their respective windows.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The situation has made the sorting I need to do next to impossible.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
>