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Old 05-12-2008
OkeDoke1234
 
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Windows Media 11 not playing DVDs

I have Windows Vista Home Premium with SP1 and am running Windows Media
Player 11.0.6001.7000. I have several DVDs that run fine on it including the
Band of Brothers miniseries and other movies.

I just purchased several new DVD movies (300, WALL-E, Star Wars Clone Wars).
None will run on it. I get a screen of pixellated colors, no error messages.

The DVDs will run fine on VLC Media Player , a freeware media player.

Any ideas?
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Old 05-12-2008
OkeDoke1234
 
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RE: Windows Media 11 not playing DVDs

Just checked and it will not play ANY DVDs....all are now displaying a screen
of pixellated colors.

"OkeDoke1234" wrote:

> I have Windows Vista Home Premium with SP1 and am running Windows Media
> Player 11.0.6001.7000. I have several DVDs that run fine on it including the
> Band of Brothers miniseries and other movies.
>
> I just purchased several new DVD movies (300, WALL-E, Star Wars Clone Wars).
> None will run on it. I get a screen of pixellated colors, no error messages.
>
> The DVDs will run fine on VLC Media Player , a freeware media player.
>
> Any ideas?

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  #3  
Old 05-12-2008
PUDDLER
 
Posts: n/a
RE: Windows Media 11 not playing DVDs



"OkeDoke1234" wrote:

> Just checked and it will not play ANY DVDs....all are now displaying a screen
> of pixellated colors.
>
> "OkeDoke1234" wrote:
>
> > I have Windows Vista Home Premium with SP1 and am running Windows Media
> > Player 11.0.6001.7000. I have several DVDs that run fine on it including the
> > Band of Brothers miniseries and other movies.
> >
> > I just purchased several new DVD movies (300, WALL-E, Star Wars Clone Wars).
> > None will run on it. I get a screen of pixellated colors, no error messages.
> >
> > The DVDs will run fine on VLC Media Player , a freeware media player.
> >
> > Any ideas?

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  #4  
Old 05-12-2008
PUDDLER
 
Posts: n/a
RE: Windows Media 11 not playing DVDs

I have a DELL INSPIRON 1501 with Media Center. Initially Media Center played
DVD's
If I use Media Center or Media Player now the Video and sound gallops or
skips.
POWERDVD by CyberLink works OK.
CD's play OK in all three APPS.
I just installed Media Player 11. It did not fix anything.
I have looked at all Options / Settings and have not found anything to make
it better.
I looks like a buffer or timing problem; maybe caused by a Microsoft Update
that I shouldnt have applied.
I appreciate any suggestions

"OkeDoke1234" wrote:

> Just checked and it will not play ANY DVDs....all are now displaying a screen
> of pixellated colors.
>
> "OkeDoke1234" wrote:
>
> > I have Windows Vista Home Premium with SP1 and am running Windows Media
> > Player 11.0.6001.7000. I have several DVDs that run fine on it including the
> > Band of Brothers miniseries and other movies.
> >
> > I just purchased several new DVD movies (300, WALL-E, Star Wars Clone Wars).
> > None will run on it. I get a screen of pixellated colors, no error messages.
> >
> > The DVDs will run fine on VLC Media Player , a freeware media player.
> >
> > Any ideas?

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  #5  
Old 05-12-2008
John Inzer
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Windows Media 11 not playing DVDs

PUDDLER wrote:
> I have a DELL INSPIRON 1501 with Media Center. Initially Media Center
> played DVD's
> If I use Media Center or Media Player now the Video and sound gallops
> or skips.
> POWERDVD by CyberLink works OK.
> CD's play OK in all three APPS.
> I just installed Media Player 11. It did not fix anything.
> I have looked at all Options / Settings and have not found anything
> to make it better.
> I looks like a buffer or timing problem; maybe caused by a Microsoft
> Update that I shouldnt have applied.
> I appreciate any suggestions

=====================
The following free player might be worth a try:

VLC Media Player
http://www.videolan.org/

--

John Inzer MS-MVP
Digital Media Experience

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk


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Old 05-12-2008
PUDDLER
 
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Re: Windows Media 11 not playing DVDs

Looks like MS needs to hire a consultant programmer from VLC or CyberLink.
I don't like to add another application to do what the Windows APP should do.
Is it too much to ask that what I paid for should work and be supported?

"John Inzer" wrote:

> PUDDLER wrote:
> > I have a DELL INSPIRON 1501 with Media Center. Initially Media Center
> > played DVD's
> > If I use Media Center or Media Player now the Video and sound gallops
> > or skips.
> > POWERDVD by CyberLink works OK.
> > CD's play OK in all three APPS.
> > I just installed Media Player 11. It did not fix anything.
> > I have looked at all Options / Settings and have not found anything
> > to make it better.
> > I looks like a buffer or timing problem; maybe caused by a Microsoft
> > Update that I shouldnt have applied.
> > I appreciate any suggestions

> =====================
> The following free player might be worth a try:
>
> VLC Media Player
> http://www.videolan.org/
>
> --
>
> John Inzer MS-MVP
> Digital Media Experience
>
> Notice
> This is not tech support
> I am a volunteer
>
> Solutions that work for
> me may not work for you
>
> Proceed at your own risk
>
>
>

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  #7  
Old 06-12-2008
zachd [MSFT]
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Windows Media 11 not playing DVDs


What are the results under WMP's Help:about:Technical Support Information
menu tool under "MPEG Filters"?

Usually this breaks down because other tools stomp on WMP's decoders. It
can be hard and/or bad to prevent things from stomping on other things like
that. =\

--
Speaking for myself only.
See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
--
"PUDDLER" <PUDDLER@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:50B65748-E025-413E-AB26-A91494CA36ED@microsoft.com...
> Looks like MS needs to hire a consultant programmer from VLC or CyberLink.
> I don't like to add another application to do what the Windows APP should
> do.
> Is it too much to ask that what I paid for should work and be supported?
>
> "John Inzer" wrote:
>
>> PUDDLER wrote:
>> > I have a DELL INSPIRON 1501 with Media Center. Initially Media Center
>> > played DVD's
>> > If I use Media Center or Media Player now the Video and sound gallops
>> > or skips.
>> > POWERDVD by CyberLink works OK.
>> > CD's play OK in all three APPS.
>> > I just installed Media Player 11. It did not fix anything.
>> > I have looked at all Options / Settings and have not found anything
>> > to make it better.
>> > I looks like a buffer or timing problem; maybe caused by a Microsoft
>> > Update that I shouldnt have applied.
>> > I appreciate any suggestions

>> =====================
>> The following free player might be worth a try:
>>
>> VLC Media Player
>> http://www.videolan.org/
>>
>> --
>>
>> John Inzer MS-MVP
>> Digital Media Experience
>>
>> Notice
>> This is not tech support
>> I am a volunteer
>>
>> Solutions that work for
>> me may not work for you
>>
>> Proceed at your own risk
>>
>>
>>



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  #8  
Old 06-12-2008
OkeDoke1234
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Windows Media 11 not playing DVDs

Here are the results you asked for. I am not a techie and have absolutely no
idea what this means. I do agree with PUDDLER - it would be nice for a
Windows App to work like it is supposed to.

MPEG/DVD Filters
Type Name Binary Version
video Microsoft MPEG-2 Video Decoder msmpeg2vdec.dll 11.0.6001.7000
video Roxio Smart Encoder MPEG2VidCodec.dll 9.0.2.8
video Ligos D-10 Parser lmpgd10.ax 4.0.0.159
video Ligos MPEG Video Decoder lmpgvd.ax 4.0.0.159
video roxio DCFilters Mpeg I/II Decoder DCFilters9.dll 9.0.1.8
video Roxio Smart Decoder MPEG2VidCodec.dll 9.0.2.8
video Roxio MPEG2 Video Decoder MPEG2VidCodec.dll 9.0.2.8
video CBVA DMO wrapper filter cbva.dll 6.0.6001.18000
video Roxio MPEG2 Encoder MPEG2VidCodec.dll 9.0.2.8
video Intel Pull Mode MPEG2 Transcoder WLTranscoder.ax 1.6.396.0
video Sonic MPEG Video Decoder sonicdsmpeg.ax 1.1.3858.0
video Sonic MPEG-2 Video Decoder sonicm2vd.ax 1.0.197.60322
audio Microsoft MPEG-1/DD Audio Decoder msmpeg2adec.dll 11.0.6001.7000
audio Roxio Audio Decoder (DVD) RoxioDVDAudio.dll 9.0.2.8
audio Sonic MPEG Audio Decoder sonicdsmpeg.ax 1.1.3858.0
audio Ligos MPEG/AC-3/LPCM Audio Decoder lmpgac3.ax 4.0.0.159


"zachd [MSFT]" wrote:

>
> What are the results under WMP's Help:about:Technical Support Information
> menu tool under "MPEG Filters"?
>
> Usually this breaks down because other tools stomp on WMP's decoders. It
> can be hard and/or bad to prevent things from stomping on other things like
> that. =\
>
> --
> Speaking for myself only.
> See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
> --
> "PUDDLER" <PUDDLER@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:50B65748-E025-413E-AB26-A91494CA36ED@microsoft.com...
> > Looks like MS needs to hire a consultant programmer from VLC or CyberLink.
> > I don't like to add another application to do what the Windows APP should
> > do.
> > Is it too much to ask that what I paid for should work and be supported?
> >
> > "John Inzer" wrote:
> >
> >> PUDDLER wrote:
> >> > I have a DELL INSPIRON 1501 with Media Center. Initially Media Center
> >> > played DVD's
> >> > If I use Media Center or Media Player now the Video and sound gallops
> >> > or skips.
> >> > POWERDVD by CyberLink works OK.
> >> > CD's play OK in all three APPS.
> >> > I just installed Media Player 11. It did not fix anything.
> >> > I have looked at all Options / Settings and have not found anything
> >> > to make it better.
> >> > I looks like a buffer or timing problem; maybe caused by a Microsoft
> >> > Update that I shouldnt have applied.
> >> > I appreciate any suggestions
> >> =====================
> >> The following free player might be worth a try:
> >>
> >> VLC Media Player
> >> http://www.videolan.org/
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> John Inzer MS-MVP
> >> Digital Media Experience
> >>
> >> Notice
> >> This is not tech support
> >> I am a volunteer
> >>
> >> Solutions that work for
> >> me may not work for you
> >>
> >> Proceed at your own risk
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>
>

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  #9  
Old 09-12-2008
zachd [MSFT]
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Windows Media 11 not playing DVDs


Hm, so you've installed three different sets of codecs that stomp on the
Windows App's settings and made it not work like it was supposed to. Any
reason for doing that? What installed the large variety of MPEG filters you
list below?

I'd bet that if you just had the Microsoft MPEG filters installed, which is
how the system should work before it's touched, this would work just right.
I believe the Ligos filters in particular below might cause problems, but
the key thing is that your machine has overwritten the default DVD/MPEG
filters. This is very much related to why this wouldn't work.

One way for this to keep "working like it is supposed to" is to disallow you
from installing random or bad software on the computer, but that wouldn't
make anyone happy. =)

I'd suggest figuring out which set of filters is bad and then complaining to
whomever installed those to your system. If vendors don't ship software
that doesn't work, this would be much less likely to break. =)

-Zach
--
Speaking for myself only.
See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
--
"OkeDoke1234" <OkeDoke1234@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EF46927F-02E9-4C31-BFEB-58B2950423A1@microsoft.com...
> Here are the results you asked for. I am not a techie and have absolutely
> no
> idea what this means. I do agree with PUDDLER - it would be nice for a
> Windows App to work like it is supposed to.
>
> MPEG/DVD Filters
> Type Name Binary Version
> video Microsoft MPEG-2 Video Decoder msmpeg2vdec.dll 11.0.6001.7000
> video Roxio Smart Encoder MPEG2VidCodec.dll 9.0.2.8
> video Ligos D-10 Parser lmpgd10.ax 4.0.0.159
> video Ligos MPEG Video Decoder lmpgvd.ax 4.0.0.159
> video roxio DCFilters Mpeg I/II Decoder DCFilters9.dll 9.0.1.8
> video Roxio Smart Decoder MPEG2VidCodec.dll 9.0.2.8
> video Roxio MPEG2 Video Decoder MPEG2VidCodec.dll 9.0.2.8
> video CBVA DMO wrapper filter cbva.dll 6.0.6001.18000
> video Roxio MPEG2 Encoder MPEG2VidCodec.dll 9.0.2.8
> video Intel Pull Mode MPEG2 Transcoder WLTranscoder.ax 1.6.396.0
> video Sonic MPEG Video Decoder sonicdsmpeg.ax 1.1.3858.0
> video Sonic MPEG-2 Video Decoder sonicm2vd.ax 1.0.197.60322
> audio Microsoft MPEG-1/DD Audio Decoder msmpeg2adec.dll 11.0.6001.7000
> audio Roxio Audio Decoder (DVD) RoxioDVDAudio.dll 9.0.2.8
> audio Sonic MPEG Audio Decoder sonicdsmpeg.ax 1.1.3858.0
> audio Ligos MPEG/AC-3/LPCM Audio Decoder lmpgac3.ax 4.0.0.159
>
>
> "zachd [MSFT]" wrote:
>
>>
>> What are the results under WMP's Help:about:Technical Support Information
>> menu tool under "MPEG Filters"?
>>
>> Usually this breaks down because other tools stomp on WMP's decoders. It
>> can be hard and/or bad to prevent things from stomping on other things
>> like
>> that. =\
>>
>> --
>> Speaking for myself only.
>> See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights.
>> --
>> "PUDDLER" <PUDDLER@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:50B65748-E025-413E-AB26-A91494CA36ED@microsoft.com...
>> > Looks like MS needs to hire a consultant programmer from VLC or
>> > CyberLink.
>> > I don't like to add another application to do what the Windows APP
>> > should
>> > do.
>> > Is it too much to ask that what I paid for should work and be
>> > supported?
>> >
>> > "John Inzer" wrote:
>> >
>> >> PUDDLER wrote:
>> >> > I have a DELL INSPIRON 1501 with Media Center. Initially Media
>> >> > Center
>> >> > played DVD's
>> >> > If I use Media Center or Media Player now the Video and sound
>> >> > gallops
>> >> > or skips.
>> >> > POWERDVD by CyberLink works OK.
>> >> > CD's play OK in all three APPS.
>> >> > I just installed Media Player 11. It did not fix anything.
>> >> > I have looked at all Options / Settings and have not found anything
>> >> > to make it better.
>> >> > I looks like a buffer or timing problem; maybe caused by a Microsoft
>> >> > Update that I shouldnt have applied.
>> >> > I appreciate any suggestions
>> >> =====================
>> >> The following free player might be worth a try:
>> >>
>> >> VLC Media Player
>> >> http://www.videolan.org/
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> John Inzer MS-MVP
>> >> Digital Media Experience
>> >>
>> >> Notice
>> >> This is not tech support
>> >> I am a volunteer
>> >>
>> >> Solutions that work for
>> >> me may not work for you
>> >>
>> >> Proceed at your own risk
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>

>>
>>
>>



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  #10  
Old 11-12-2008
PUDDLER
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Windows Media 11 not playing DVDs

Could I just get a WMP Update and when WMP stomped on the APP that stomped on
WMP I would know the culpret.
Hay! I did; It was WMP 11 that was installed last and WMP 11 didn't fix the
problem. Do I need to get the correct MPEG filter from MS? Doesn't it come
with WMP 11?

"zachd [MSFT]" wrote:

>
> Hm, so you've installed three different sets of codecs that stomp on the
> Windows App's settings and made it not work like it was supposed to. Any
> reason for doing that? What installed the large variety of MPEG filters you
> list below?
>
> I'd bet that if you just had the Microsoft MPEG filters installed, which is
> how the system should work before it's touched, this would work just right.
> I believe the Ligos filters in particular below might cause problems, but
> the key thing is that your machine has overwritten the default DVD/MPEG
> filters. This is very much related to why this wouldn't work.
>
> One way for this to keep "working like it is supposed to" is to disallow you
> from installing random or bad software on the computer, but that wouldn't
> make anyone happy. =)
>
> I'd suggest figuring out which set of filters is bad and then complaining to
> whomever installed those to your system. If vendors don't ship software
> that doesn't work, this would be much less likely to break. =)
>
> -Zach
> --
> Speaking for myself only.
> See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
> --
> "OkeDoke1234" <OkeDoke1234@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:EF46927F-02E9-4C31-BFEB-58B2950423A1@microsoft.com...
> > Here are the results you asked for. I am not a techie and have absolutely
> > no
> > idea what this means. I do agree with PUDDLER - it would be nice for a
> > Windows App to work like it is supposed to.
> >
> > MPEG/DVD Filters
> > Type Name Binary Version
> > video Microsoft MPEG-2 Video Decoder msmpeg2vdec.dll 11.0.6001.7000
> > video Roxio Smart Encoder MPEG2VidCodec.dll 9.0.2.8
> > video Ligos D-10 Parser lmpgd10.ax 4.0.0.159
> > video Ligos MPEG Video Decoder lmpgvd.ax 4.0.0.159
> > video roxio DCFilters Mpeg I/II Decoder DCFilters9.dll 9.0.1.8
> > video Roxio Smart Decoder MPEG2VidCodec.dll 9.0.2.8
> > video Roxio MPEG2 Video Decoder MPEG2VidCodec.dll 9.0.2.8
> > video CBVA DMO wrapper filter cbva.dll 6.0.6001.18000
> > video Roxio MPEG2 Encoder MPEG2VidCodec.dll 9.0.2.8
> > video Intel Pull Mode MPEG2 Transcoder WLTranscoder.ax 1.6.396.0
> > video Sonic MPEG Video Decoder sonicdsmpeg.ax 1.1.3858.0
> > video Sonic MPEG-2 Video Decoder sonicm2vd.ax 1.0.197.60322
> > audio Microsoft MPEG-1/DD Audio Decoder msmpeg2adec.dll 11.0.6001.7000
> > audio Roxio Audio Decoder (DVD) RoxioDVDAudio.dll 9.0.2.8
> > audio Sonic MPEG Audio Decoder sonicdsmpeg.ax 1.1.3858.0
> > audio Ligos MPEG/AC-3/LPCM Audio Decoder lmpgac3.ax 4.0.0.159
> >
> >
> > "zachd [MSFT]" wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> What are the results under WMP's Help:about:Technical Support Information
> >> menu tool under "MPEG Filters"?
> >>
> >> Usually this breaks down because other tools stomp on WMP's decoders. It
> >> can be hard and/or bad to prevent things from stomping on other things
> >> like
> >> that. =\
> >>
> >> --
> >> Speaking for myself only.
> >> See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> >> rights.
> >> --
> >> "PUDDLER" <PUDDLER@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:50B65748-E025-413E-AB26-A91494CA36ED@microsoft.com...
> >> > Looks like MS needs to hire a consultant programmer from VLC or
> >> > CyberLink.
> >> > I don't like to add another application to do what the Windows APP
> >> > should
> >> > do.
> >> > Is it too much to ask that what I paid for should work and be
> >> > supported?
> >> >
> >> > "John Inzer" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> PUDDLER wrote:
> >> >> > I have a DELL INSPIRON 1501 with Media Center. Initially Media
> >> >> > Center
> >> >> > played DVD's
> >> >> > If I use Media Center or Media Player now the Video and sound
> >> >> > gallops
> >> >> > or skips.
> >> >> > POWERDVD by CyberLink works OK.
> >> >> > CD's play OK in all three APPS.
> >> >> > I just installed Media Player 11. It did not fix anything.
> >> >> > I have looked at all Options / Settings and have not found anything
> >> >> > to make it better.
> >> >> > I looks like a buffer or timing problem; maybe caused by a Microsoft
> >> >> > Update that I shouldnt have applied.
> >> >> > I appreciate any suggestions
> >> >> =====================
> >> >> The following free player might be worth a try:
> >> >>
> >> >> VLC Media Player
> >> >> http://www.videolan.org/
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >>
> >> >> John Inzer MS-MVP
> >> >> Digital Media Experience
> >> >>
> >> >> Notice
> >> >> This is not tech support
> >> >> I am a volunteer
> >> >>
> >> >> Solutions that work for
> >> >> me may not work for you
> >> >>
> >> >> Proceed at your own risk
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>
>

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  #11  
Old 12-12-2008
zachd [MSFT]
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Windows Media 11 not playing DVDs


No, none of those third party MPEG components have ever been installed by
any version of Windows Media Player whatosever.

The Windows Media Player installer does not and should not know about the
MPEG filters installed to your system, and should not be in the business of
attempting to guess if you have installed Good or Bad filters or codecs.

The correct Microsoft MPEG filter is already installed to Oke's system -
it's the one marked "Microsoft" in that list.

This has been a "problem" (feature, really) since day one: you've always
been able to install your own MPEG filters that overrode the Microsoft ones.
That's what has happened here. Because Windows Media Player isn't in the
business of micro-managing your filters, there's nothing you can do within
the player to handle this.

It is a good idea to think about what multimedia software you install to
your system and not install random codecs/filters.

--
Speaking for myself only.
See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
--
"PUDDLER" <PUDDLER@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E172483B-A067-4999-ADDF-1A9236CD4346@microsoft.com...
> Could I just get a WMP Update and when WMP stomped on the APP that stomped
> on
> WMP I would know the culpret.
> Hay! I did; It was WMP 11 that was installed last and WMP 11 didn't fix
> the
> problem. Do I need to get the correct MPEG filter from MS? Doesn't it come
> with WMP 11?
>
> "zachd [MSFT]" wrote:
>
>>
>> Hm, so you've installed three different sets of codecs that stomp on the
>> Windows App's settings and made it not work like it was supposed to. Any
>> reason for doing that? What installed the large variety of MPEG filters
>> you
>> list below?
>>
>> I'd bet that if you just had the Microsoft MPEG filters installed, which
>> is
>> how the system should work before it's touched, this would work just
>> right.
>> I believe the Ligos filters in particular below might cause problems, but
>> the key thing is that your machine has overwritten the default DVD/MPEG
>> filters. This is very much related to why this wouldn't work.
>>
>> One way for this to keep "working like it is supposed to" is to disallow
>> you
>> from installing random or bad software on the computer, but that wouldn't
>> make anyone happy. =)
>>
>> I'd suggest figuring out which set of filters is bad and then complaining
>> to
>> whomever installed those to your system. If vendors don't ship software
>> that doesn't work, this would be much less likely to break. =)
>>
>> -Zach
>> --
>> Speaking for myself only.
>> See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights.
>> --
>> "OkeDoke1234" <OkeDoke1234@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:EF46927F-02E9-4C31-BFEB-58B2950423A1@microsoft.com...
>> > Here are the results you asked for. I am not a techie and have
>> > absolutely
>> > no
>> > idea what this means. I do agree with PUDDLER - it would be nice for a
>> > Windows App to work like it is supposed to.
>> >
>> > MPEG/DVD Filters
>> > Type Name Binary Version
>> > video Microsoft MPEG-2 Video Decoder msmpeg2vdec.dll 11.0.6001.7000
>> > video Roxio Smart Encoder MPEG2VidCodec.dll 9.0.2.8
>> > video Ligos D-10 Parser lmpgd10.ax 4.0.0.159
>> > video Ligos MPEG Video Decoder lmpgvd.ax 4.0.0.159
>> > video roxio DCFilters Mpeg I/II Decoder DCFilters9.dll 9.0.1.8
>> > video Roxio Smart Decoder MPEG2VidCodec.dll 9.0.2.8
>> > video Roxio MPEG2 Video Decoder MPEG2VidCodec.dll 9.0.2.8
>> > video CBVA DMO wrapper filter cbva.dll 6.0.6001.18000
>> > video Roxio MPEG2 Encoder MPEG2VidCodec.dll 9.0.2.8
>> > video Intel Pull Mode MPEG2 Transcoder WLTranscoder.ax 1.6.396.0
>> > video Sonic MPEG Video Decoder sonicdsmpeg.ax 1.1.3858.0
>> > video Sonic MPEG-2 Video Decoder sonicm2vd.ax 1.0.197.60322
>> > audio Microsoft MPEG-1/DD Audio Decoder msmpeg2adec.dll 11.0.6001.7000
>> > audio Roxio Audio Decoder (DVD) RoxioDVDAudio.dll 9.0.2.8
>> > audio Sonic MPEG Audio Decoder sonicdsmpeg.ax 1.1.3858.0
>> > audio Ligos MPEG/AC-3/LPCM Audio Decoder lmpgac3.ax 4.0.0.159
>> >
>> >
>> > "zachd [MSFT]" wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> What are the results under WMP's Help:about:Technical Support
>> >> Information
>> >> menu tool under "MPEG Filters"?
>> >>
>> >> Usually this breaks down because other tools stomp on WMP's decoders.
>> >> It
>> >> can be hard and/or bad to prevent things from stomping on other things
>> >> like
>> >> that. =\
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Speaking for myself only.
>> >> See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
>> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> >> rights.
>> >> --
>> >> "PUDDLER" <PUDDLER@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:50B65748-E025-413E-AB26-A91494CA36ED@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Looks like MS needs to hire a consultant programmer from VLC or
>> >> > CyberLink.
>> >> > I don't like to add another application to do what the Windows APP
>> >> > should
>> >> > do.
>> >> > Is it too much to ask that what I paid for should work and be
>> >> > supported?
>> >> >
>> >> > "John Inzer" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> PUDDLER wrote:
>> >> >> > I have a DELL INSPIRON 1501 with Media Center. Initially Media
>> >> >> > Center
>> >> >> > played DVD's
>> >> >> > If I use Media Center or Media Player now the Video and sound
>> >> >> > gallops
>> >> >> > or skips.
>> >> >> > POWERDVD by CyberLink works OK.
>> >> >> > CD's play OK in all three APPS.
>> >> >> > I just installed Media Player 11. It did not fix anything.
>> >> >> > I have looked at all Options / Settings and have not found
>> >> >> > anything
>> >> >> > to make it better.
>> >> >> > I looks like a buffer or timing problem; maybe caused by a
>> >> >> > Microsoft
>> >> >> > Update that I shouldnt have applied.
>> >> >> > I appreciate any suggestions
>> >> >> =====================
>> >> >> The following free player might be worth a try:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> VLC Media Player
>> >> >> http://www.videolan.org/
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >>
>> >> >> John Inzer MS-MVP
>> >> >> Digital Media Experience
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Notice
>> >> >> This is not tech support
>> >> >> I am a volunteer
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Solutions that work for
>> >> >> me may not work for you
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Proceed at your own risk
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>

>>
>>
>>



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Old 12-12-2008
PUDDLER
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Windows Media 11 not playing DVDs

OK I don't know what an MPEG Filter is.
How do I check my system and get that list
I'm getting lost in these postings.

Thanks

"zachd [MSFT]" wrote:

>
> No, none of those third party MPEG components have ever been installed by
> any version of Windows Media Player whatosever.
>
> The Windows Media Player installer does not and should not know about the
> MPEG filters installed to your system, and should not be in the business of
> attempting to guess if you have installed Good or Bad filters or codecs.
>
> The correct Microsoft MPEG filter is already installed to Oke's system -
> it's the one marked "Microsoft" in that list.
>
> This has been a "problem" (feature, really) since day one: you've always
> been able to install your own MPEG filters that overrode the Microsoft ones.
> That's what has happened here. Because Windows Media Player isn't in the
> business of micro-managing your filters, there's nothing you can do within
> the player to handle this.
>
> It is a good idea to think about what multimedia software you install to
> your system and not install random codecs/filters.
>
> --
> Speaking for myself only.
> See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
> --
> "PUDDLER" <PUDDLER@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:E172483B-A067-4999-ADDF-1A9236CD4346@microsoft.com...
> > Could I just get a WMP Update and when WMP stomped on the APP that stomped
> > on
> > WMP I would know the culpret.
> > Hay! I did; It was WMP 11 that was installed last and WMP 11 didn't fix
> > the
> > problem. Do I need to get the correct MPEG filter from MS? Doesn't it come
> > with WMP 11?
> >
> > "zachd [MSFT]" wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Hm, so you've installed three different sets of codecs that stomp on the
> >> Windows App's settings and made it not work like it was supposed to. Any
> >> reason for doing that? What installed the large variety of MPEG filters
> >> you
> >> list below?
> >>
> >> I'd bet that if you just had the Microsoft MPEG filters installed, which
> >> is
> >> how the system should work before it's touched, this would work just
> >> right.
> >> I believe the Ligos filters in particular below might cause problems, but
> >> the key thing is that your machine has overwritten the default DVD/MPEG
> >> filters. This is very much related to why this wouldn't work.
> >>
> >> One way for this to keep "working like it is supposed to" is to disallow
> >> you
> >> from installing random or bad software on the computer, but that wouldn't
> >> make anyone happy. =)
> >>
> >> I'd suggest figuring out which set of filters is bad and then complaining
> >> to
> >> whomever installed those to your system. If vendors don't ship software
> >> that doesn't work, this would be much less likely to break. =)
> >>
> >> -Zach
> >> --
> >> Speaking for myself only.
> >> See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> >> rights.
> >> --
> >> "OkeDoke1234" <OkeDoke1234@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:EF46927F-02E9-4C31-BFEB-58B2950423A1@microsoft.com...
> >> > Here are the results you asked for. I am not a techie and have
> >> > absolutely
> >> > no
> >> > idea what this means. I do agree with PUDDLER - it would be nice for a
> >> > Windows App to work like it is supposed to.
> >> >
> >> > MPEG/DVD Filters
> >> > Type Name Binary Version
> >> > video Microsoft MPEG-2 Video Decoder msmpeg2vdec.dll 11.0.6001.7000
> >> > video Roxio Smart Encoder MPEG2VidCodec.dll 9.0.2.8
> >> > video Ligos D-10 Parser lmpgd10.ax 4.0.0.159
> >> > video Ligos MPEG Video Decoder lmpgvd.ax 4.0.0.159
> >> > video roxio DCFilters Mpeg I/II Decoder DCFilters9.dll 9.0.1.8
> >> > video Roxio Smart Decoder MPEG2VidCodec.dll 9.0.2.8
> >> > video Roxio MPEG2 Video Decoder MPEG2VidCodec.dll 9.0.2.8
> >> > video CBVA DMO wrapper filter cbva.dll 6.0.6001.18000
> >> > video Roxio MPEG2 Encoder MPEG2VidCodec.dll 9.0.2.8
> >> > video Intel Pull Mode MPEG2 Transcoder WLTranscoder.ax 1.6.396.0
> >> > video Sonic MPEG Video Decoder sonicdsmpeg.ax 1.1.3858.0
> >> > video Sonic MPEG-2 Video Decoder sonicm2vd.ax 1.0.197.60322
> >> > audio Microsoft MPEG-1/DD Audio Decoder msmpeg2adec.dll 11.0.6001.7000
> >> > audio Roxio Audio Decoder (DVD) RoxioDVDAudio.dll 9.0.2.8
> >> > audio Sonic MPEG Audio Decoder sonicdsmpeg.ax 1.1.3858.0
> >> > audio Ligos MPEG/AC-3/LPCM Audio Decoder lmpgac3.ax 4.0.0.159
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "zachd [MSFT]" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> What are the results under WMP's Help:about:Technical Support
> >> >> Information
> >> >> menu tool under "MPEG Filters"?
> >> >>
> >> >> Usually this breaks down because other tools stomp on WMP's decoders.
> >> >> It
> >> >> can be hard and/or bad to prevent things from stomping on other things
> >> >> like
> >> >> that. =\
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Speaking for myself only.
> >> >> See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
> >> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> >> >> rights.
> >> >> --
> >> >> "PUDDLER" <PUDDLER@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:50B65748-E025-413E-AB26-A91494CA36ED@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Looks like MS needs to hire a consultant programmer from VLC or
> >> >> > CyberLink.
> >> >> > I don't like to add another application to do what the Windows APP
> >> >> > should
> >> >> > do.
> >> >> > Is it too much to ask that what I paid for should work and be
> >> >> > supported?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "John Inzer" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> PUDDLER wrote:
> >> >> >> > I have a DELL INSPIRON 1501 with Media Center. Initially Media
> >> >> >> > Center
> >> >> >> > played DVD's
> >> >> >> > If I use Media Center or Media Player now the Video and sound
> >> >> >> > gallops
> >> >> >> > or skips.
> >> >> >> > POWERDVD by CyberLink works OK.
> >> >> >> > CD's play OK in all three APPS.
> >> >> >> > I just installed Media Player 11. It did not fix anything.
> >> >> >> > I have looked at all Options / Settings and have not found
> >> >> >> > anything
> >> >> >> > to make it better.
> >> >> >> > I looks like a buffer or timing problem; maybe caused by a
> >> >> >> > Microsoft
> >> >> >> > Update that I shouldnt have applied.
> >> >> >> > I appreciate any suggestions
> >> >> >> =====================
> >> >> >> The following free player might be worth a try:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> VLC Media Player
> >> >> >> http://www.videolan.org/
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> John Inzer MS-MVP
> >> >> >> Digital Media Experience
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Notice
> >> >> >> This is not tech support
> >> >> >> I am a volunteer
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Solutions that work for
> >> >> >> me may not work for you
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Proceed at your own risk
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>
>

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Old 12-12-2008
zachd [MSFT]
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Windows Media 11 not playing DVDs


Yeah - that's why it can be good to start a new thread as opposed to
dogpiling on an existing one. =)

What are the results under WMP's Help:about:Technical Support Information
menu tool under "MPEG Filters"?

--
Speaking for myself only.
See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
--
"PUDDLER" <PUDDLER@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:113683FB-5375-4EB2-B093-BE716B5D1E36@microsoft.com...
> OK I don't know what an MPEG Filter is.
> How do I check my system and get that list
> I'm getting lost in these postings.
>
> Thanks
>
> "zachd [MSFT]" wrote:
>
>>
>> No, none of those third party MPEG components have ever been installed by
>> any version of Windows Media Player whatosever.
>>
>> The Windows Media Player installer does not and should not know about the
>> MPEG filters installed to your system, and should not be in the business
>> of
>> attempting to guess if you have installed Good or Bad filters or codecs.
>>
>> The correct Microsoft MPEG filter is already installed to Oke's system -
>> it's the one marked "Microsoft" in that list.
>>
>> This has been a "problem" (feature, really) since day one: you've always
>> been able to install your own MPEG filters that overrode the Microsoft
>> ones.
>> That's what has happened here. Because Windows Media Player isn't in the
>> business of micro-managing your filters, there's nothing you can do
>> within
>> the player to handle this.
>>
>> It is a good idea to think about what multimedia software you install to
>> your system and not install random codecs/filters.
>>
>> --
>> Speaking for myself only.
>> See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights.
>> --
>> "PUDDLER" <PUDDLER@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:E172483B-A067-4999-ADDF-1A9236CD4346@microsoft.com...
>> > Could I just get a WMP Update and when WMP stomped on the APP that
>> > stomped
>> > on
>> > WMP I would know the culpret.
>> > Hay! I did; It was WMP 11 that was installed last and WMP 11 didn't fix
>> > the
>> > problem. Do I need to get the correct MPEG filter from MS? Doesn't it
>> > come
>> > with WMP 11?
>> >
>> > "zachd [MSFT]" wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Hm, so you've installed three different sets of codecs that stomp on
>> >> the
>> >> Windows App's settings and made it not work like it was supposed to.
>> >> Any
>> >> reason for doing that? What installed the large variety of MPEG
>> >> filters
>> >> you
>> >> list below?
>> >>
>> >> I'd bet that if you just had the Microsoft MPEG filters installed,
>> >> which
>> >> is
>> >> how the system should work before it's touched, this would work just
>> >> right.
>> >> I believe the Ligos filters in particular below might cause problems,
>> >> but
>> >> the key thing is that your machine has overwritten the default
>> >> DVD/MPEG
>> >> filters. This is very much related to why this wouldn't work.
>> >>
>> >> One way for this to keep "working like it is supposed to" is to
>> >> disallow
>> >> you
>> >> from installing random or bad software on the computer, but that
>> >> wouldn't
>> >> make anyone happy. =)
>> >>
>> >> I'd suggest figuring out which set of filters is bad and then
>> >> complaining
>> >> to
>> >> whomever installed those to your system. If vendors don't ship
>> >> software
>> >> that doesn't work, this would be much less likely to break. =)
>> >>
>> >> -Zach
>> >> --
>> >> Speaking for myself only.
>> >> See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
>> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> >> rights.
>> >> --
>> >> "OkeDoke1234" <OkeDoke1234@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:EF46927F-02E9-4C31-BFEB-58B2950423A1@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Here are the results you asked for. I am not a techie and have
>> >> > absolutely
>> >> > no
>> >> > idea what this means. I do agree with PUDDLER - it would be nice for
>> >> > a
>> >> > Windows App to work like it is supposed to.
>> >> >
>> >> > MPEG/DVD Filters
>> >> > Type Name Binary Version
>> >> > video Microsoft MPEG-2 Video Decoder msmpeg2vdec.dll 11.0.6001.7000
>> >> > video Roxio Smart Encoder MPEG2VidCodec.dll 9.0.2.8
>> >> > video Ligos D-10 Parser lmpgd10.ax 4.0.0.159
>> >> > video Ligos MPEG Video Decoder lmpgvd.ax 4.0.0.159
>> >> > video roxio DCFilters Mpeg I/II Decoder DCFilters9.dll 9.0.1.8
>> >> > video Roxio Smart Decoder MPEG2VidCodec.dll 9.0.2.8
>> >> > video Roxio MPEG2 Video Decoder MPEG2VidCodec.dll 9.0.2.8
>> >> > video CBVA DMO wrapper filter cbva.dll 6.0.6001.18000
>> >> > video Roxio MPEG2 Encoder MPEG2VidCodec.dll 9.0.2.8
>> >> > video Intel Pull Mode MPEG2 Transcoder WLTranscoder.ax 1.6.396.0
>> >> > video Sonic MPEG Video Decoder sonicdsmpeg.ax 1.1.3858.0
>> >> > video Sonic MPEG-2 Video Decoder sonicm2vd.ax 1.0.197.60322
>> >> > audio Microsoft MPEG-1/DD Audio Decoder msmpeg2adec.dll
>> >> > 11.0.6001.7000
>> >> > audio Roxio Audio Decoder (DVD) RoxioDVDAudio.dll 9.0.2.8
>> >> > audio Sonic MPEG Audio Decoder sonicdsmpeg.ax 1.1.3858.0
>> >> > audio Ligos MPEG/AC-3/LPCM Audio Decoder lmpgac3.ax 4.0.0.159
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "zachd [MSFT]" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> What are the results under WMP's Help:about:Technical Support
>> >> >> Information
>> >> >> menu tool under "MPEG Filters"?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Usually this breaks down because other tools stomp on WMP's
>> >> >> decoders.
>> >> >> It
>> >> >> can be hard and/or bad to prevent things from stomping on other
>> >> >> things
>> >> >> like
>> >> >> that. =\
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Speaking for myself only.
>> >> >> See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
>> >> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> >> >> rights.
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> "PUDDLER" <PUDDLER@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:50B65748-E025-413E-AB26-A91494CA36ED@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > Looks like MS needs to hire a consultant programmer from VLC or
>> >> >> > CyberLink.
>> >> >> > I don't like to add another application to do what the Windows
>> >> >> > APP
>> >> >> > should
>> >> >> > do.
>> >> >> > Is it too much to ask that what I paid for should work and be
>> >> >> > supported?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "John Inzer" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> PUDDLER wrote:
>> >> >> >> > I have a DELL INSPIRON 1501 with Media Center. Initially Media
>> >> >> >> > Center
>> >> >> >> > played DVD's
>> >> >> >> > If I use Media Center or Media Player now the Video and sound
>> >> >> >> > gallops
>> >> >> >> > or skips.
>> >> >> >> > POWERDVD by CyberLink works OK.
>> >> >> >> > CD's play OK in all three APPS.
>> >> >> >> > I just installed Media Player 11. It did not fix anything.
>> >> >> >> > I have looked at all Options / Settings and have not found
>> >> >> >> > anything
>> >> >> >> > to make it better.
>> >> >> >> > I looks like a buffer or timing problem; maybe caused by a
>> >> >> >> > Microsoft
>> >> >> >> > Update that I shouldnt have applied.
>> >> >> >> > I appreciate any suggestions
>> >> >> >> =====================
>> >> >> >> The following free player might be worth a try:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> VLC Media Player
>> >> >> >> http://www.videolan.org/
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> John Inzer MS-MVP
>> >> >> >> Digital Media Experience
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Notice
>> >> >> >> This is not tech support
>> >> >> >> I am a volunteer
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Solutions that work for
>> >> >> >> me may not work for you
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Proceed at your own risk
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>

>>
>>
>>



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