no access to mapped drive with offline files setting over WAN

I have 2 questions regarding GPO for FolderRedirection for My Documents on XP
Sp2:

1. We are testing out the gpo for folder redirection and offline files for
our remote users over a 512 k MPLS WAN. In order to speed up the access to
documents, I added the netcache registry setting for GoOfflineOnSlowLink=1 so
our users would be using offline files. However, we now are getting reports
that they cannot access their mapped drive because they are offline. What
will happen if I change the netcache value to 0? How can I configure the
settings for GPO to speed up access to files while continuing access to
mapped drives?

2. Also, I am wondering if there is a GPO to schedule sync during off hours?

Marjorie,
In XP I don't know of a way to pick and choose what is offline at a point in
time. Your option would be to not make the mapped drive locations available
offline (in the Sharing properties on the server), so over a slow link they
would still be online.

In Vista you have much more control of going "offline" selectively.

In XP there is not an option to schedule the sync in Group Policy, but the
user can do it in the Synchronisation properties. You can synchronise
manually, or you can set it to synchronise when idle and every xx minutes. I
dare say you could implement this through the registry but I haven't tried.
Anthony,
http://www.airdesk.co.uk




"Marjorie_VFB" <Marjorie_VFB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8AF9B903-F3A9-4F43-A868-2700A7CCC822@microsoft.com...
>I have 2 questions regarding GPO for FolderRedirection for My Documents on
>XP
> Sp2:
>
> 1. We are testing out the gpo for folder redirection and offline files for
> our remote users over a 512 k MPLS WAN. In order to speed up the access
> to
> documents, I added the netcache registry setting for GoOfflineOnSlowLink=1
> so
> our users would be using offline files. However, we now are getting
> reports
> that they cannot access their mapped drive because they are offline. What
> will happen if I change the netcache value to 0? How can I configure the
> settings for GPO to speed up access to files while continuing access to
> mapped drives?
>
> 2. Also, I am wondering if there is a GPO to schedule sync during off
> hours?

Thanks for your quick response. I will check with our network admin if it is
possible to change the "common" share properties as you suggest. Am I
correct in thinking that the netcache value referenced will force the
workstation into offline mode all the time?

"Anthony [MVP]" wrote:

> Marjorie,
> In XP I don't know of a way to pick and choose what is offline at a point in
> time. Your option would be to not make the mapped drive locations available
> offline (in the Sharing properties on the server), so over a slow link they
> would still be online.
>
> In Vista you have much more control of going "offline" selectively.
>
> In XP there is not an option to schedule the sync in Group Policy, but the
> user can do it in the Synchronisation properties. You can synchronise
> manually, or you can set it to synchronise when idle and every xx minutes. I
> dare say you could implement this through the registry but I haven't tried.
> Anthony,
> http://www.airdesk.co.uk
>
>
>
>
> "Marjorie_VFB" <Marjorie_VFB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8AF9B903-F3A9-4F43-A868-2700A7CCC822@microsoft.com...
> >I have 2 questions regarding GPO for FolderRedirection for My Documents on
> >XP
> > Sp2:
> >
> > 1. We are testing out the gpo for folder redirection and offline files for
> > our remote users over a 512 k MPLS WAN. In order to speed up the access
> > to
> > documents, I added the netcache registry setting for GoOfflineOnSlowLink=1
> > so
> > our users would be using offline files. However, we now are getting
> > reports
> > that they cannot access their mapped drive because they are offline. What
> > will happen if I change the netcache value to 0? How can I configure the
> > settings for GPO to speed up access to files while continuing access to
> > mapped drives?
> >
> > 2. Also, I am wondering if there is a GPO to schedule sync during off
> > hours?
>
>
>

The Offline Files feature is primarily concerned with when the files are
simply not available, e.g. when you are offline. But you can set the Slow
Link detection so that a slow link is assumed to be offline for the purposes
of Offline Files, even tho it is not in fact offline. If you Disable slow
link detection, then the files are considered online until they are truly
not connected at all, at which point you can use the files in the offline
cache.
Anthony,
http://www.airdesk.co.uk



"Marjorie_VFB" <MarjorieVFB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5914BE96-5967-4A6F-9B6A-21A3BA93922B@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for your quick response. I will check with our network admin if it
> is
> possible to change the "common" share properties as you suggest. Am I
> correct in thinking that the netcache value referenced will force the
> workstation into offline mode all the time?
>
> "Anthony [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Marjorie,
>> In XP I don't know of a way to pick and choose what is offline at a point
>> in
>> time. Your option would be to not make the mapped drive locations
>> available
>> offline (in the Sharing properties on the server), so over a slow link
>> they
>> would still be online.
>>
>> In Vista you have much more control of going "offline" selectively.
>>
>> In XP there is not an option to schedule the sync in Group Policy, but
>> the
>> user can do it in the Synchronisation properties. You can synchronise
>> manually, or you can set it to synchronise when idle and every xx
>> minutes. I
>> dare say you could implement this through the registry but I haven't
>> tried.
>> Anthony,
>> http://www.airdesk.co.uk
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Marjorie_VFB" <Marjorie_VFB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:8AF9B903-F3A9-4F43-A868-2700A7CCC822@microsoft.com...
>> >I have 2 questions regarding GPO for FolderRedirection for My Documents
>> >on
>> >XP
>> > Sp2:
>> >
>> > 1. We are testing out the gpo for folder redirection and offline files
>> > for
>> > our remote users over a 512 k MPLS WAN. In order to speed up the
>> > access
>> > to
>> > documents, I added the netcache registry setting for
>> > GoOfflineOnSlowLink=1
>> > so
>> > our users would be using offline files. However, we now are getting
>> > reports
>> > that they cannot access their mapped drive because they are offline.
>> > What
>> > will happen if I change the netcache value to 0? How can I configure
>> > the
>> > settings for GPO to speed up access to files while continuing access to
>> > mapped drives?
>> >
>> > 2. Also, I am wondering if there is a GPO to schedule sync during off
>> > hours?
>>
>>
>>

Anthony -- I set up a test environment with the mapped "common" share set to
"Do not make available offline", but since it is on the same server as the My
Docs folder redirection share, it is not available at all. It looks like
this is true since it is the same server, as I can get to shares on a
different server while on the slow link. Is this correct, or do I need to
reboot the server in order for the offline setting to take place? Thanks
again for your help!

"Anthony [MVP]" wrote:

> The Offline Files feature is primarily concerned with when the files are
> simply not available, e.g. when you are offline. But you can set the Slow
> Link detection so that a slow link is assumed to be offline for the purposes
> of Offline Files, even tho it is not in fact offline. If you Disable slow
> link detection, then the files are considered online until they are truly
> not connected at all, at which point you can use the files in the offline
> cache.
> Anthony,
> http://www.airdesk.co.uk
>
>
>
> "Marjorie_VFB" <MarjorieVFB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5914BE96-5967-4A6F-9B6A-21A3BA93922B@microsoft.com...
> > Thanks for your quick response. I will check with our network admin if it
> > is
> > possible to change the "common" share properties as you suggest. Am I
> > correct in thinking that the netcache value referenced will force the
> > workstation into offline mode all the time?
> >
> > "Anthony [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> Marjorie,
> >> In XP I don't know of a way to pick and choose what is offline at a point
> >> in
> >> time. Your option would be to not make the mapped drive locations
> >> available
> >> offline (in the Sharing properties on the server), so over a slow link
> >> they
> >> would still be online.
> >>
> >> In Vista you have much more control of going "offline" selectively.
> >>
> >> In XP there is not an option to schedule the sync in Group Policy, but
> >> the
> >> user can do it in the Synchronisation properties. You can synchronise
> >> manually, or you can set it to synchronise when idle and every xx
> >> minutes. I
> >> dare say you could implement this through the registry but I haven't
> >> tried.
> >> Anthony,
> >> http://www.airdesk.co.uk
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Marjorie_VFB" <Marjorie_VFB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:8AF9B903-F3A9-4F43-A868-2700A7CCC822@microsoft.com...
> >> >I have 2 questions regarding GPO for FolderRedirection for My Documents
> >> >on
> >> >XP
> >> > Sp2:
> >> >
> >> > 1. We are testing out the gpo for folder redirection and offline files
> >> > for
> >> > our remote users over a 512 k MPLS WAN. In order to speed up the
> >> > access
> >> > to
> >> > documents, I added the netcache registry setting for
> >> > GoOfflineOnSlowLink=1
> >> > so
> >> > our users would be using offline files. However, we now are getting
> >> > reports
> >> > that they cannot access their mapped drive because they are offline.
> >> > What
> >> > will happen if I change the netcache value to 0? How can I configure
> >> > the
> >> > settings for GPO to speed up access to files while continuing access to
> >> > mapped drives?
> >> >
> >> > 2. Also, I am wondering if there is a GPO to schedule sync during off
> >> > hours?
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

The thing I would try is to re-initialise the offline cache on the client
(http://support.microsoft.com/kb/230738). Then try again.
Caching is a Share property rather than a server property, so I would be
surprised if the My Docs redirection/offline setting made a difference to
the mapped drive.
Hope that helps,
Anthony,
http://www.airdesk.co.uk


"Marjorie_VFB" <MarjorieVFB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C81ED2C0-3288-49DD-9ACD-76B2E4C6DCA2@microsoft.com...
> Anthony -- I set up a test environment with the mapped "common" share set
> to
> "Do not make available offline", but since it is on the same server as the
> My
> Docs folder redirection share, it is not available at all. It looks like
> this is true since it is the same server, as I can get to shares on a
> different server while on the slow link. Is this correct, or do I need to
> reboot the server in order for the offline setting to take place? Thanks
> again for your help!
>
> "Anthony [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> The Offline Files feature is primarily concerned with when the files are
>> simply not available, e.g. when you are offline. But you can set the Slow
>> Link detection so that a slow link is assumed to be offline for the
>> purposes
>> of Offline Files, even tho it is not in fact offline. If you Disable slow
>> link detection, then the files are considered online until they are truly
>> not connected at all, at which point you can use the files in the offline
>> cache.
>> Anthony,
>> http://www.airdesk.co.uk
>>
>>
>>
>> "Marjorie_VFB" <MarjorieVFB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:5914BE96-5967-4A6F-9B6A-21A3BA93922B@microsoft.com...
>> > Thanks for your quick response. I will check with our network admin if
>> > it
>> > is
>> > possible to change the "common" share properties as you suggest. Am I
>> > correct in thinking that the netcache value referenced will force the
>> > workstation into offline mode all the time?
>> >
>> > "Anthony [MVP]" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Marjorie,
>> >> In XP I don't know of a way to pick and choose what is offline at a
>> >> point
>> >> in
>> >> time. Your option would be to not make the mapped drive locations
>> >> available
>> >> offline (in the Sharing properties on the server), so over a slow link
>> >> they
>> >> would still be online.
>> >>
>> >> In Vista you have much more control of going "offline" selectively.
>> >>
>> >> In XP there is not an option to schedule the sync in Group Policy, but
>> >> the
>> >> user can do it in the Synchronisation properties. You can synchronise
>> >> manually, or you can set it to synchronise when idle and every xx
>> >> minutes. I
>> >> dare say you could implement this through the registry but I haven't
>> >> tried.
>> >> Anthony,
>> >> http://www.airdesk.co.uk
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Marjorie_VFB" <Marjorie_VFB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> message
>> >> news:8AF9B903-F3A9-4F43-A868-2700A7CCC822@microsoft.com...
>> >> >I have 2 questions regarding GPO for FolderRedirection for My
>> >> >Documents
>> >> >on
>> >> >XP
>> >> > Sp2:
>> >> >
>> >> > 1. We are testing out the gpo for folder redirection and offline
>> >> > files
>> >> > for
>> >> > our remote users over a 512 k MPLS WAN. In order to speed up the
>> >> > access
>> >> > to
>> >> > documents, I added the netcache registry setting for
>> >> > GoOfflineOnSlowLink=1
>> >> > so
>> >> > our users would be using offline files. However, we now are getting
>> >> > reports
>> >> > that they cannot access their mapped drive because they are offline.
>> >> > What
>> >> > will happen if I change the netcache value to 0? How can I
>> >> > configure
>> >> > the
>> >> > settings for GPO to speed up access to files while continuing access
>> >> > to
>> >> > mapped drives?
>> >> >
>> >> > 2. Also, I am wondering if there is a GPO to schedule sync during
>> >> > off
>> >> > hours?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

After changing the "\\remotefsp\common" share to not be available to offline
files, reinitializing the cache on the client, I am getting the same
behavior. Slow link goes offline and all shares on "remotefsp" server are
offline -- My Docs, common, etc. It looks like our main solution will be to
have My Docs on a separate server from the "common" share at this point.
Thanks again for your suggestions and insight.

"Anthony [MVP]" wrote:

> The thing I would try is to re-initialise the offline cache on the client
> (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/230738). Then try again.
> Caching is a Share property rather than a server property, so I would be
> surprised if the My Docs redirection/offline setting made a difference to
> the mapped drive.
> Hope that helps,
> Anthony,
> http://www.airdesk.co.uk
>
>
> "Marjorie_VFB" <MarjorieVFB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C81ED2C0-3288-49DD-9ACD-76B2E4C6DCA2@microsoft.com...
> > Anthony -- I set up a test environment with the mapped "common" share set
> > to
> > "Do not make available offline", but since it is on the same server as the
> > My
> > Docs folder redirection share, it is not available at all. It looks like
> > this is true since it is the same server, as I can get to shares on a
> > different server while on the slow link. Is this correct, or do I need to
> > reboot the server in order for the offline setting to take place? Thanks
> > again for your help!
> >
> > "Anthony [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> The Offline Files feature is primarily concerned with when the files are
> >> simply not available, e.g. when you are offline. But you can set the Slow
> >> Link detection so that a slow link is assumed to be offline for the
> >> purposes
> >> of Offline Files, even tho it is not in fact offline. If you Disable slow
> >> link detection, then the files are considered online until they are truly
> >> not connected at all, at which point you can use the files in the offline
> >> cache.
> >> Anthony,
> >> http://www.airdesk.co.uk
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Marjorie_VFB" <MarjorieVFB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:5914BE96-5967-4A6F-9B6A-21A3BA93922B@microsoft.com...
> >> > Thanks for your quick response. I will check with our network admin if
> >> > it
> >> > is
> >> > possible to change the "common" share properties as you suggest. Am I
> >> > correct in thinking that the netcache value referenced will force the
> >> > workstation into offline mode all the time?
> >> >
> >> > "Anthony [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Marjorie,
> >> >> In XP I don't know of a way to pick and choose what is offline at a
> >> >> point
> >> >> in
> >> >> time. Your option would be to not make the mapped drive locations
> >> >> available
> >> >> offline (in the Sharing properties on the server), so over a slow link
> >> >> they
> >> >> would still be online.
> >> >>
> >> >> In Vista you have much more control of going "offline" selectively.
> >> >>
> >> >> In XP there is not an option to schedule the sync in Group Policy, but
> >> >> the
> >> >> user can do it in the Synchronisation properties. You can synchronise
> >> >> manually, or you can set it to synchronise when idle and every xx
> >> >> minutes. I
> >> >> dare say you could implement this through the registry but I haven't
> >> >> tried.
> >> >> Anthony,
> >> >> http://www.airdesk.co.uk
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Marjorie_VFB" <Marjorie_VFB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> >> message
> >> >> news:8AF9B903-F3A9-4F43-A868-2700A7CCC822@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >I have 2 questions regarding GPO for FolderRedirection for My
> >> >> >Documents
> >> >> >on
> >> >> >XP
> >> >> > Sp2:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 1. We are testing out the gpo for folder redirection and offline
> >> >> > files
> >> >> > for
> >> >> > our remote users over a 512 k MPLS WAN. In order to speed up the
> >> >> > access
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > documents, I added the netcache registry setting for
> >> >> > GoOfflineOnSlowLink=1
> >> >> > so
> >> >> > our users would be using offline files. However, we now are getting
> >> >> > reports
> >> >> > that they cannot access their mapped drive because they are offline.
> >> >> > What
> >> >> > will happen if I change the netcache value to 0? How can I
> >> >> > configure
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > settings for GPO to speed up access to files while continuing access
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > mapped drives?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 2. Also, I am wondering if there is a GPO to schedule sync during
> >> >> > off
> >> >> > hours?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

Hi Marjorie,
That's interesting and I must say I am a little surprised. The slow link
detection would mark the server as "slow", but since the Share is not
available offline I would have expected you still to be able to connect to
it directly. When you connect to the Share, does it say it is unavailable,
or offline?
Anthony,
http://www.airdesk.co.uk


"Marjorie_VFB" <MarjorieVFB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BF611022-DBB9-467E-B21E-2E81DC9AD136@microsoft.com...
> After changing the "\\remotefsp\common" share to not be available to
> offline
> files, reinitializing the cache on the client, I am getting the same
> behavior. Slow link goes offline and all shares on "remotefsp" server are
> offline -- My Docs, common, etc. It looks like our main solution will be
> to
> have My Docs on a separate server from the "common" share at this point.
> Thanks again for your suggestions and insight.
>
> "Anthony [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> The thing I would try is to re-initialise the offline cache on the client
>> (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/230738). Then try again.
>> Caching is a Share property rather than a server property, so I would be
>> surprised if the My Docs redirection/offline setting made a difference to
>> the mapped drive.
>> Hope that helps,
>> Anthony,
>> http://www.airdesk.co.uk
>>
>>
>> "Marjorie_VFB" <MarjorieVFB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:C81ED2C0-3288-49DD-9ACD-76B2E4C6DCA2@microsoft.com...
>> > Anthony -- I set up a test environment with the mapped "common" share
>> > set
>> > to
>> > "Do not make available offline", but since it is on the same server as
>> > the
>> > My
>> > Docs folder redirection share, it is not available at all. It looks
>> > like
>> > this is true since it is the same server, as I can get to shares on a
>> > different server while on the slow link. Is this correct, or do I need
>> > to
>> > reboot the server in order for the offline setting to take place?
>> > Thanks
>> > again for your help!
>> >
>> > "Anthony [MVP]" wrote:
>> >
>> >> The Offline Files feature is primarily concerned with when the files
>> >> are
>> >> simply not available, e.g. when you are offline. But you can set the
>> >> Slow
>> >> Link detection so that a slow link is assumed to be offline for the
>> >> purposes
>> >> of Offline Files, even tho it is not in fact offline. If you Disable
>> >> slow
>> >> link detection, then the files are considered online until they are
>> >> truly
>> >> not connected at all, at which point you can use the files in the
>> >> offline
>> >> cache.
>> >> Anthony,
>> >> http://www.airdesk.co.uk
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Marjorie_VFB" <MarjorieVFB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> message
>> >> news:5914BE96-5967-4A6F-9B6A-21A3BA93922B@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Thanks for your quick response. I will check with our network admin
>> >> > if
>> >> > it
>> >> > is
>> >> > possible to change the "common" share properties as you suggest. Am
>> >> > I
>> >> > correct in thinking that the netcache value referenced will force
>> >> > the
>> >> > workstation into offline mode all the time?
>> >> >
>> >> > "Anthony [MVP]" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Marjorie,
>> >> >> In XP I don't know of a way to pick and choose what is offline at a
>> >> >> point
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> time. Your option would be to not make the mapped drive locations
>> >> >> available
>> >> >> offline (in the Sharing properties on the server), so over a slow
>> >> >> link
>> >> >> they
>> >> >> would still be online.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> In Vista you have much more control of going "offline" selectively.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> In XP there is not an option to schedule the sync in Group Policy,
>> >> >> but
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> user can do it in the Synchronisation properties. You can
>> >> >> synchronise
>> >> >> manually, or you can set it to synchronise when idle and every xx
>> >> >> minutes. I
>> >> >> dare say you could implement this through the registry but I
>> >> >> haven't
>> >> >> tried.
>> >> >> Anthony,
>> >> >> http://www.airdesk.co.uk
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Marjorie_VFB" <Marjorie_VFB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> >> message
>> >> >> news:8AF9B903-F3A9-4F43-A868-2700A7CCC822@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >I have 2 questions regarding GPO for FolderRedirection for My
>> >> >> >Documents
>> >> >> >on
>> >> >> >XP
>> >> >> > Sp2:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 1. We are testing out the gpo for folder redirection and offline
>> >> >> > files
>> >> >> > for
>> >> >> > our remote users over a 512 k MPLS WAN. In order to speed up the
>> >> >> > access
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > documents, I added the netcache registry setting for
>> >> >> > GoOfflineOnSlowLink=1
>> >> >> > so
>> >> >> > our users would be using offline files. However, we now are
>> >> >> > getting
>> >> >> > reports
>> >> >> > that they cannot access their mapped drive because they are
>> >> >> > offline.
>> >> >> > What
>> >> >> > will happen if I change the netcache value to 0? How can I
>> >> >> > configure
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > settings for GPO to speed up access to files while continuing
>> >> >> > access
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > mapped drives?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 2. Also, I am wondering if there is a GPO to schedule sync during
>> >> >> > off
>> >> >> > hours?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

The share does not have any notice, but there are no files or folders -- it
just looks like an empty window. If I am looking at a share on a different
server that is not on \\remotefsp, then I can see all the files and folders.
Of course I do not have the right click option to "Make available offline" on
that share either. Hope that helps.

"Anthony [MVP]" wrote:

> Hi Marjorie,
> That's interesting and I must say I am a little surprised. The slow link
> detection would mark the server as "slow", but since the Share is not
> available offline I would have expected you still to be able to connect to
> it directly. When you connect to the Share, does it say it is unavailable,
> or offline?
> Anthony,
> http://www.airdesk.co.uk
>
>
> "Marjorie_VFB" <MarjorieVFB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:BF611022-DBB9-467E-B21E-2E81DC9AD136@microsoft.com...
> > After changing the "\\remotefsp\common" share to not be available to
> > offline
> > files, reinitializing the cache on the client, I am getting the same
> > behavior. Slow link goes offline and all shares on "remotefsp" server are
> > offline -- My Docs, common, etc. It looks like our main solution will be
> > to
> > have My Docs on a separate server from the "common" share at this point.
> > Thanks again for your suggestions and insight.
> >
> > "Anthony [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> The thing I would try is to re-initialise the offline cache on the client
> >> (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/230738). Then try again.
> >> Caching is a Share property rather than a server property, so I would be
> >> surprised if the My Docs redirection/offline setting made a difference to
> >> the mapped drive.
> >> Hope that helps,
> >> Anthony,
> >> http://www.airdesk.co.uk
> >>
> >>
> >> "Marjorie_VFB" <MarjorieVFB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:C81ED2C0-3288-49DD-9ACD-76B2E4C6DCA2@microsoft.com...
> >> > Anthony -- I set up a test environment with the mapped "common" share
> >> > set
> >> > to
> >> > "Do not make available offline", but since it is on the same server as
> >> > the
> >> > My
> >> > Docs folder redirection share, it is not available at all. It looks
> >> > like
> >> > this is true since it is the same server, as I can get to shares on a
> >> > different server while on the slow link. Is this correct, or do I need
> >> > to
> >> > reboot the server in order for the offline setting to take place?
> >> > Thanks
> >> > again for your help!
> >> >
> >> > "Anthony [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> The Offline Files feature is primarily concerned with when the files
> >> >> are
> >> >> simply not available, e.g. when you are offline. But you can set the
> >> >> Slow
> >> >> Link detection so that a slow link is assumed to be offline for the
> >> >> purposes
> >> >> of Offline Files, even tho it is not in fact offline. If you Disable
> >> >> slow
> >> >> link detection, then the files are considered online until they are
> >> >> truly
> >> >> not connected at all, at which point you can use the files in the
> >> >> offline
> >> >> cache.
> >> >> Anthony,
> >> >> http://www.airdesk.co.uk
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Marjorie_VFB" <MarjorieVFB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> >> message
> >> >> news:5914BE96-5967-4A6F-9B6A-21A3BA93922B@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Thanks for your quick response. I will check with our network admin
> >> >> > if
> >> >> > it
> >> >> > is
> >> >> > possible to change the "common" share properties as you suggest. Am
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > correct in thinking that the netcache value referenced will force
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > workstation into offline mode all the time?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Anthony [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Marjorie,
> >> >> >> In XP I don't know of a way to pick and choose what is offline at a
> >> >> >> point
> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> time. Your option would be to not make the mapped drive locations
> >> >> >> available
> >> >> >> offline (in the Sharing properties on the server), so over a slow
> >> >> >> link
> >> >> >> they
> >> >> >> would still be online.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> In Vista you have much more control of going "offline" selectively.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> In XP there is not an option to schedule the sync in Group Policy,
> >> >> >> but
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> user can do it in the Synchronisation properties. You can
> >> >> >> synchronise
> >> >> >> manually, or you can set it to synchronise when idle and every xx
> >> >> >> minutes. I
> >> >> >> dare say you could implement this through the registry but I
> >> >> >> haven't
> >> >> >> tried.
> >> >> >> Anthony,
> >> >> >> http://www.airdesk.co.uk
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Marjorie_VFB" <Marjorie_VFB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> news:8AF9B903-F3A9-4F43-A868-2700A7CCC822@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> >I have 2 questions regarding GPO for FolderRedirection for My
> >> >> >> >Documents
> >> >> >> >on
> >> >> >> >XP
> >> >> >> > Sp2:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > 1. We are testing out the gpo for folder redirection and offline
> >> >> >> > files
> >> >> >> > for
> >> >> >> > our remote users over a 512 k MPLS WAN. In order to speed up the
> >> >> >> > access
> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> > documents, I added the netcache registry setting for
> >> >> >> > GoOfflineOnSlowLink=1
> >> >> >> > so
> >> >> >> > our users would be using offline files. However, we now are
> >> >> >> > getting
> >> >> >> > reports
> >> >> >> > that they cannot access their mapped drive because they are
> >> >> >> > offline.
> >> >> >> > What
> >> >> >> > will happen if I change the netcache value to 0? How can I
> >> >> >> > configure
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > settings for GPO to speed up access to files while continuing
> >> >> >> > access
> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> > mapped drives?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > 2. Also, I am wondering if there is a GPO to schedule sync during
> >> >> >> > off
> >> >> >> > hours?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

I think you are right, its not going to work unless the shared drive is on a
different server. I guess if you connected with the \\[IP_Address]\Share it
would work because it would be seen as a different server (not that you
would want to do that, but just for testing).
Anthony,
http://www.airdesk.co.uk


"Marjorie_VFB" <MarjorieVFB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:250CDA92-E6A5-4286-8CC4-1972C6EACFC8@microsoft.com...
> The share does not have any notice, but there are no files or folders --
> it
> just looks like an empty window. If I am looking at a share on a
> different
> server that is not on \\remotefsp, then I can see all the files and
> folders.
> Of course I do not have the right click option to "Make available offline"
> on
> that share either. Hope that helps.
>
> "Anthony [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Hi Marjorie,
>> That's interesting and I must say I am a little surprised. The slow link
>> detection would mark the server as "slow", but since the Share is not
>> available offline I would have expected you still to be able to connect
>> to
>> it directly. When you connect to the Share, does it say it is
>> unavailable,
>> or offline?
>> Anthony,
>> http://www.airdesk.co.uk
>>
>>
>> "Marjorie_VFB" <MarjorieVFB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:BF611022-DBB9-467E-B21E-2E81DC9AD136@microsoft.com...
>> > After changing the "\\remotefsp\common" share to not be available to
>> > offline
>> > files, reinitializing the cache on the client, I am getting the same
>> > behavior. Slow link goes offline and all shares on "remotefsp" server
>> > are
>> > offline -- My Docs, common, etc. It looks like our main solution will
>> > be
>> > to
>> > have My Docs on a separate server from the "common" share at this
>> > point.
>> > Thanks again for your suggestions and insight.
>> >
>> > "Anthony [MVP]" wrote:
>> >
>> >> The thing I would try is to re-initialise the offline cache on the
>> >> client
>> >> (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/230738). Then try again.
>> >> Caching is a Share property rather than a server property, so I would
>> >> be
>> >> surprised if the My Docs redirection/offline setting made a difference
>> >> to
>> >> the mapped drive.
>> >> Hope that helps,
>> >> Anthony,
>> >> http://www.airdesk.co.uk
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Marjorie_VFB" <MarjorieVFB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> message
>> >> news:C81ED2C0-3288-49DD-9ACD-76B2E4C6DCA2@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Anthony -- I set up a test environment with the mapped "common"
>> >> > share
>> >> > set
>> >> > to
>> >> > "Do not make available offline", but since it is on the same server
>> >> > as
>> >> > the
>> >> > My
>> >> > Docs folder redirection share, it is not available at all. It looks
>> >> > like
>> >> > this is true since it is the same server, as I can get to shares on
>> >> > a
>> >> > different server while on the slow link. Is this correct, or do I
>> >> > need
>> >> > to
>> >> > reboot the server in order for the offline setting to take place?
>> >> > Thanks
>> >> > again for your help!
>> >> >
>> >> > "Anthony [MVP]" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> The Offline Files feature is primarily concerned with when the
>> >> >> files
>> >> >> are
>> >> >> simply not available, e.g. when you are offline. But you can set
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> Slow
>> >> >> Link detection so that a slow link is assumed to be offline for the
>> >> >> purposes
>> >> >> of Offline Files, even tho it is not in fact offline. If you
>> >> >> Disable
>> >> >> slow
>> >> >> link detection, then the files are considered online until they are
>> >> >> truly
>> >> >> not connected at all, at which point you can use the files in the
>> >> >> offline
>> >> >> cache.
>> >> >> Anthony,
>> >> >> http://www.airdesk.co.uk
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Marjorie_VFB" <MarjorieVFB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> >> message
>> >> >> news:5914BE96-5967-4A6F-9B6A-21A3BA93922B@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > Thanks for your quick response. I will check with our network
>> >> >> > admin
>> >> >> > if
>> >> >> > it
>> >> >> > is
>> >> >> > possible to change the "common" share properties as you suggest.
>> >> >> > Am
>> >> >> > I
>> >> >> > correct in thinking that the netcache value referenced will force
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > workstation into offline mode all the time?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Anthony [MVP]" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Marjorie,
>> >> >> >> In XP I don't know of a way to pick and choose what is offline
>> >> >> >> at a
>> >> >> >> point
>> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> time. Your option would be to not make the mapped drive
>> >> >> >> locations
>> >> >> >> available
>> >> >> >> offline (in the Sharing properties on the server), so over a
>> >> >> >> slow
>> >> >> >> link
>> >> >> >> they
>> >> >> >> would still be online.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> In Vista you have much more control of going "offline"
>> >> >> >> selectively.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> In XP there is not an option to schedule the sync in Group
>> >> >> >> Policy,
>> >> >> >> but
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> user can do it in the Synchronisation properties. You can
>> >> >> >> synchronise
>> >> >> >> manually, or you can set it to synchronise when idle and every
>> >> >> >> xx
>> >> >> >> minutes. I
>> >> >> >> dare say you could implement this through the registry but I
>> >> >> >> haven't
>> >> >> >> tried.
>> >> >> >> Anthony,
>> >> >> >> http://www.airdesk.co.uk
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Marjorie_VFB" <Marjorie_VFB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> >> >> message
>> >> >> >> news:8AF9B903-F3A9-4F43-A868-2700A7CCC822@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >> >I have 2 questions regarding GPO for FolderRedirection for My
>> >> >> >> >Documents
>> >> >> >> >on
>> >> >> >> >XP
>> >> >> >> > Sp2:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > 1. We are testing out the gpo for folder redirection and
>> >> >> >> > offline
>> >> >> >> > files
>> >> >> >> > for
>> >> >> >> > our remote users over a 512 k MPLS WAN. In order to speed up
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > access
>> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> > documents, I added the netcache registry setting for
>> >> >> >> > GoOfflineOnSlowLink=1
>> >> >> >> > so
>> >> >> >> > our users would be using offline files. However, we now are
>> >> >> >> > getting
>> >> >> >> > reports
>> >> >> >> > that they cannot access their mapped drive because they are
>> >> >> >> > offline.
>> >> >> >> > What
>> >> >> >> > will happen if I change the netcache value to 0? How can I
>> >> >> >> > configure
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > settings for GPO to speed up access to files while continuing
>> >> >> >> > access
>> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> > mapped drives?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > 2. Also, I am wondering if there is a GPO to schedule sync
>> >> >> >> > during
>> >> >> >> > off
>> >> >> >> > hours?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

Anthony -- when I map out to the \\IP_Address\Share I do not lose the data in
the folder. Very interesting!

"Anthony [MVP]" wrote:

> I think you are right, its not going to work unless the shared drive is on a
> different server. I guess if you connected with the \\[IP_Address]\Share it
> would work because it would be seen as a different server (not that you
> would want to do that, but just for testing).
> Anthony,
> http://www.airdesk.co.uk
>
>
> "Marjorie_VFB" <MarjorieVFB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:250CDA92-E6A5-4286-8CC4-1972C6EACFC8@microsoft.com...
> > The share does not have any notice, but there are no files or folders --
> > it
> > just looks like an empty window. If I am looking at a share on a
> > different
> > server that is not on \\remotefsp, then I can see all the files and
> > folders.
> > Of course I do not have the right click option to "Make available offline"
> > on
> > that share either. Hope that helps.
> >
> > "Anthony [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Marjorie,
> >> That's interesting and I must say I am a little surprised. The slow link
> >> detection would mark the server as "slow", but since the Share is not
> >> available offline I would have expected you still to be able to connect
> >> to
> >> it directly. When you connect to the Share, does it say it is
> >> unavailable,
> >> or offline?
> >> Anthony,
> >> http://www.airdesk.co.uk
> >>
> >>
> >> "Marjorie_VFB" <MarjorieVFB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:BF611022-DBB9-467E-B21E-2E81DC9AD136@microsoft.com...
> >> > After changing the "\\remotefsp\common" share to not be available to
> >> > offline
> >> > files, reinitializing the cache on the client, I am getting the same
> >> > behavior. Slow link goes offline and all shares on "remotefsp" server
> >> > are
> >> > offline -- My Docs, common, etc. It looks like our main solution will
> >> > be
> >> > to
> >> > have My Docs on a separate server from the "common" share at this
> >> > point.
> >> > Thanks again for your suggestions and insight.
> >> >
> >> > "Anthony [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> The thing I would try is to re-initialise the offline cache on the
> >> >> client
> >> >> (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/230738). Then try again.
> >> >> Caching is a Share property rather than a server property, so I would
> >> >> be
> >> >> surprised if the My Docs redirection/offline setting made a difference
> >> >> to
> >> >> the mapped drive.
> >> >> Hope that helps,
> >> >> Anthony,
> >> >> http://www.airdesk.co.uk
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Marjorie_VFB" <MarjorieVFB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> >> message
> >> >> news:C81ED2C0-3288-49DD-9ACD-76B2E4C6DCA2@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Anthony -- I set up a test environment with the mapped "common"
> >> >> > share
> >> >> > set
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > "Do not make available offline", but since it is on the same server
> >> >> > as
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > My
> >> >> > Docs folder redirection share, it is not available at all. It looks
> >> >> > like
> >> >> > this is true since it is the same server, as I can get to shares on
> >> >> > a
> >> >> > different server while on the slow link. Is this correct, or do I
> >> >> > need
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > reboot the server in order for the offline setting to take place?
> >> >> > Thanks
> >> >> > again for your help!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Anthony [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> The Offline Files feature is primarily concerned with when the
> >> >> >> files
> >> >> >> are
> >> >> >> simply not available, e.g. when you are offline. But you can set
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> Slow
> >> >> >> Link detection so that a slow link is assumed to be offline for the
> >> >> >> purposes
> >> >> >> of Offline Files, even tho it is not in fact offline. If you
> >> >> >> Disable
> >> >> >> slow
> >> >> >> link detection, then the files are considered online until they are
> >> >> >> truly
> >> >> >> not connected at all, at which point you can use the files in the
> >> >> >> offline
> >> >> >> cache.
> >> >> >> Anthony,
> >> >> >> http://www.airdesk.co.uk
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Marjorie_VFB" <MarjorieVFB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> news:5914BE96-5967-4A6F-9B6A-21A3BA93922B@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> > Thanks for your quick response. I will check with our network
> >> >> >> > admin
> >> >> >> > if
> >> >> >> > it
> >> >> >> > is
> >> >> >> > possible to change the "common" share properties as you suggest.
> >> >> >> > Am
> >> >> >> > I
> >> >> >> > correct in thinking that the netcache value referenced will force
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > workstation into offline mode all the time?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "Anthony [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> Marjorie,
> >> >> >> >> In XP I don't know of a way to pick and choose what is offline
> >> >> >> >> at a
> >> >> >> >> point
> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> time. Your option would be to not make the mapped drive
> >> >> >> >> locations
> >> >> >> >> available
> >> >> >> >> offline (in the Sharing properties on the server), so over a
> >> >> >> >> slow
> >> >> >> >> link
> >> >> >> >> they
> >> >> >> >> would still be online.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> In Vista you have much more control of going "offline"
> >> >> >> >> selectively.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> In XP there is not an option to schedule the sync in Group
> >> >> >> >> Policy,
> >> >> >> >> but
> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> user can do it in the Synchronisation properties. You can
> >> >> >> >> synchronise
> >> >> >> >> manually, or you can set it to synchronise when idle and every
> >> >> >> >> xx
> >> >> >> >> minutes. I
> >> >> >> >> dare say you could implement this through the registry but I
> >> >> >> >> haven't
> >> >> >> >> tried.
> >> >> >> >> Anthony,
> >> >> >> >> http://www.airdesk.co.uk
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> "Marjorie_VFB" <Marjorie_VFB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> news:8AF9B903-F3A9-4F43-A868-2700A7CCC822@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> >> >I have 2 questions regarding GPO for FolderRedirection for My
> >> >> >> >> >Documents
> >> >> >> >> >on
> >> >> >> >> >XP
> >> >> >> >> > Sp2:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > 1. We are testing out the gpo for folder redirection and
> >> >> >> >> > offline
> >> >> >> >> > files
> >> >> >> >> > for
> >> >> >> >> > our remote users over a 512 k MPLS WAN. In order to speed up
> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> > access
> >> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> >> > documents, I added the netcache registry setting for
> >> >> >> >> > GoOfflineOnSlowLink=1
> >> >> >> >> > so
> >> >> >> >> > our users would be using offline files. However, we now are
> >> >> >> >> > getting
> >> >> >> >> > reports
> >> >> >> >> > that they cannot access their mapped drive because they are
> >> >> >> >> > offline.
> >> >> >> >> > What
> >> >> >> >> > will happen if I change the netcache value to 0? How can I
> >> >> >> >> > configure
> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> > settings for GPO to speed up access to files while continuing
> >> >> >> >> > access
> >> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> >> > mapped drives?
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > 2. Also, I am wondering if there is a GPO to schedule sync
> >> >> >> >> > during
> >> >> >> >> > off
> >> >> >> >> > hours?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

So you could create a DFS link to the Shared folder, which is not available
offline, and map the drive to that. Then when the physical server is marked
as offline, the mapped drive to the DFS path will not be.
Anthony,
http://www.airdesk.co.uk


"Marjorie_VFB" <MarjorieVFB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:611BE3EE-3FB5-4633-AB4B-04FABB8EF826@microsoft.com...
> Anthony -- when I map out to the \\IP_Address\Share I do not lose the data
> in
> the folder. Very interesting!
>
> "Anthony [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> I think you are right, its not going to work unless the shared drive is
>> on a
>> different server. I guess if you connected with the \\[IP_Address]\Share
>> it
>> would work because it would be seen as a different server (not that you
>> would want to do that, but just for testing).
>> Anthony,
>> http://www.airdesk.co.uk
>>
>>
>> "Marjorie_VFB" <MarjorieVFB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:250CDA92-E6A5-4286-8CC4-1972C6EACFC8@microsoft.com...
>> > The share does not have any notice, but there are no files or
>> > folders --
>> > it
>> > just looks like an empty window. If I am looking at a share on a
>> > different
>> > server that is not on \\remotefsp, then I can see all the files and
>> > folders.
>> > Of course I do not have the right click option to "Make available
>> > offline"
>> > on
>> > that share either. Hope that helps.
>> >
>> > "Anthony [MVP]" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Marjorie,
>> >> That's interesting and I must say I am a little surprised. The slow
>> >> link
>> >> detection would mark the server as "slow", but since the Share is not
>> >> available offline I would have expected you still to be able to
>> >> connect
>> >> to
>> >> it directly. When you connect to the Share, does it say it is
>> >> unavailable,
>> >> or offline?
>> >> Anthony,
>> >> http://www.airdesk.co.uk
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Marjorie_VFB" <MarjorieVFB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> message
>> >> news:BF611022-DBB9-467E-B21E-2E81DC9AD136@microsoft.com...
>> >> > After changing the "\\remotefsp\common" share to not be available to
>> >> > offline
>> >> > files, reinitializing the cache on the client, I am getting the same
>> >> > behavior. Slow link goes offline and all shares on "remotefsp"
>> >> > server
>> >> > are
>> >> > offline -- My Docs, common, etc. It looks like our main solution
>> >> > will
>> >> > be
>> >> > to
>> >> > have My Docs on a separate server from the "common" share at this
>> >> > point.
>> >> > Thanks again for your suggestions and insight.
>> >> >
>> >> > "Anthony [MVP]" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> The thing I would try is to re-initialise the offline cache on the
>> >> >> client
>> >> >> (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/230738). Then try again.
>> >> >> Caching is a Share property rather than a server property, so I
>> >> >> would
>> >> >> be
>> >> >> surprised if the My Docs redirection/offline setting made a
>> >> >> difference
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> the mapped drive.
>> >> >> Hope that helps,
>> >> >> Anthony,
>> >> >> http://www.airdesk.co.uk
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Marjorie_VFB" <MarjorieVFB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> >> message
>> >> >> news:C81ED2C0-3288-49DD-9ACD-76B2E4C6DCA2@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > Anthony -- I set up a test environment with the mapped "common"
>> >> >> > share
>> >> >> > set
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > "Do not make available offline", but since it is on the same
>> >> >> > server
>> >> >> > as
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > My
>> >> >> > Docs folder redirection share, it is not available at all. It
>> >> >> > looks
>> >> >> > like
>> >> >> > this is true since it is the same server, as I can get to shares
>> >> >> > on
>> >> >> > a
>> >> >> > different server while on the slow link. Is this correct, or do
>> >> >> > I
>> >> >> > need
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > reboot the server in order for the offline setting to take place?
>> >> >> > Thanks
>> >> >> > again for your help!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Anthony [MVP]" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> The Offline Files feature is primarily concerned with when the
>> >> >> >> files
>> >> >> >> are
>> >> >> >> simply not available, e.g. when you are offline. But you can set
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> Slow
>> >> >> >> Link detection so that a slow link is assumed to be offline for
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> purposes
>> >> >> >> of Offline Files, even tho it is not in fact offline. If you
>> >> >> >> Disable
>> >> >> >> slow
>> >> >> >> link detection, then the files are considered online until they
>> >> >> >> are
>> >> >> >> truly
>> >> >> >> not connected at all, at which point you can use the files in
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> offline
>> >> >> >> cache.
>> >> >> >> Anthony,
>> >> >> >> http://www.airdesk.co.uk
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Marjorie_VFB" <MarjorieVFB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> >> >> message
>> >> >> >> news:5914BE96-5967-4A6F-9B6A-21A3BA93922B@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >> > Thanks for your quick response. I will check with our network
>> >> >> >> > admin
>> >> >> >> > if
>> >> >> >> > it
>> >> >> >> > is
>> >> >> >> > possible to change the "common" share properties as you
>> >> >> >> > suggest.
>> >> >> >> > Am
>> >> >> >> > I
>> >> >> >> > correct in thinking that the netcache value referenced will
>> >> >> >> > force
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > workstation into offline mode all the time?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > "Anthony [MVP]" wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> Marjorie,
>> >> >> >> >> In XP I don't know of a way to pick and choose what is
>> >> >> >> >> offline
>> >> >> >> >> at a
>> >> >> >> >> point
>> >> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> >> time. Your option would be to not make the mapped drive
>> >> >> >> >> locations
>> >> >> >> >> available
>> >> >> >> >> offline (in the Sharing properties on the server), so over a
>> >> >> >> >> slow
>> >> >> >> >> link
>> >> >> >> >> they
>> >> >> >> >> would still be online.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> In Vista you have much more control of going "offline"
>> >> >> >> >> selectively.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> In XP there is not an option to schedule the sync in Group
>> >> >> >> >> Policy,
>> >> >> >> >> but
>> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> user can do it in the Synchronisation properties. You can
>> >> >> >> >> synchronise
>> >> >> >> >> manually, or you can set it to synchronise when idle and
>> >> >> >> >> every
>> >> >> >> >> xx
>> >> >> >> >> minutes. I
>> >> >> >> >> dare say you could implement this through the registry but I
>> >> >> >> >> haven't
>> >> >> >> >> tried.
>> >> >> >> >> Anthony,
>> >> >> >> >> http://www.airdesk.co.uk
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> "Marjorie_VFB" <Marjorie_VFB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>> >> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> >> message
>> >> >> >> >> news:8AF9B903-F3A9-4F43-A868-2700A7CCC822@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >> >> >I have 2 questions regarding GPO for FolderRedirection for
>> >> >> >> >> >My
>> >> >> >> >> >Documents
>> >> >> >> >> >on
>> >> >> >> >> >XP
>> >> >> >> >> > Sp2:
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > 1. We are testing out the gpo for folder redirection and
>> >> >> >> >> > offline
>> >> >> >> >> > files
>> >> >> >> >> > for
>> >> >> >> >> > our remote users over a 512 k MPLS WAN. In order to speed
>> >> >> >> >> > up
>> >> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> >> > access
>> >> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> >> > documents, I added the netcache registry setting for
>> >> >> >> >> > GoOfflineOnSlowLink=1
>> >> >> >> >> > so
>> >> >> >> >> > our users would be using offline files. However, we now
>> >> >> >> >> > are
>> >> >> >> >> > getting
>> >> >> >> >> > reports
>> >> >> >> >> > that they cannot access their mapped drive because they are
>> >> >> >> >> > offline.
>> >> >> >> >> > What
>> >> >> >> >> > will happen if I change the netcache value to 0? How can I
>> >> >> >> >> > configure
>> >> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> >> > settings for GPO to speed up access to files while
>> >> >> >> >> > continuing
>> >> >> >> >> > access
>> >> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> >> > mapped drives?
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > 2. Also, I am wondering if there is a GPO to schedule sync
>> >> >> >> >> > during
>> >> >> >> >> > off
>> >> >> >> >> > hours?
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

Thanks! I will keep these notes to reference for when we implement DFS in
the near future.

"Anthony [MVP]" wrote:

> So you could create a DFS link to the Shared folder, which is not available
> offline, and map the drive to that. Then when the physical server is marked
> as offline, the mapped drive to the DFS path will not be.
> Anthony,
> http://www.airdesk.co.uk
>
>
> "Marjorie_VFB" <MarjorieVFB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:611BE3EE-3FB5-4633-AB4B-04FABB8EF826@microsoft.com...
> > Anthony -- when I map out to the \\IP_Address\Share I do not lose the data
> > in
> > the folder. Very interesting!
> >
> > "Anthony [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> I think you are right, its not going to work unless the shared drive is
> >> on a
> >> different server. I guess if you connected with the \\[IP_Address]\Share
> >> it
> >> would work because it would be seen as a different server (not that you
> >> would want to do that, but just for testing).
> >> Anthony,
> >> http://www.airdesk.co.uk
> >>
> >>
> >> "Marjorie_VFB" <MarjorieVFB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:250CDA92-E6A5-4286-8CC4-1972C6EACFC8@microsoft.com...
> >> > The share does not have any notice, but there are no files or
> >> > folders --
> >> > it
> >> > just looks like an empty window. If I am looking at a share on a
> >> > different
> >> > server that is not on \\remotefsp, then I can see all the files and
> >> > folders.
> >> > Of course I do not have the right click option to "Make available
> >> > offline"
> >> > on
> >> > that share either. Hope that helps.
> >> >
> >> > "Anthony [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi Marjorie,
> >> >> That's interesting and I must say I am a little surprised. The slow
> >> >> link
> >> >> detection would mark the server as "slow", but since the Share is not
> >> >> available offline I would have expected you still to be able to
> >> >> connect
> >> >> to
> >> >> it directly. When you connect to the Share, does it say it is
> >> >> unavailable,
> >> >> or offline?
> >> >> Anthony,
> >> >> http://www.airdesk.co.uk
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Marjorie_VFB" <MarjorieVFB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> >> message
> >> >> news:BF611022-DBB9-467E-B21E-2E81DC9AD136@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > After changing the "\\remotefsp\common" share to not be available to
> >> >> > offline
> >> >> > files, reinitializing the cache on the client, I am getting the same
> >> >> > behavior. Slow link goes offline and all shares on "remotefsp"
> >> >> > server
> >> >> > are
> >> >> > offline -- My Docs, common, etc. It looks like our main solution
> >> >> > will
> >> >> > be
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > have My Docs on a separate server from the "common" share at this
> >> >> > point.
> >> >> > Thanks again for your suggestions and insight.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Anthony [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> The thing I would try is to re-initialise the offline cache on the
> >> >> >> client
> >> >> >> (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/230738). Then try again.
> >> >> >> Caching is a Share property rather than a server property, so I
> >> >> >> would
> >> >> >> be
> >> >> >> surprised if the My Docs redirection/offline setting made a
> >> >> >> difference
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> the mapped drive.
> >> >> >> Hope that helps,
> >> >> >> Anthony,
> >> >> >> http://www.airdesk.co.uk
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Marjorie_VFB" <MarjorieVFB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> news:C81ED2C0-3288-49DD-9ACD-76B2E4C6DCA2@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> > Anthony -- I set up a test environment with the mapped "common"
> >> >> >> > share
> >> >> >> > set
> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> > "Do not make available offline", but since it is on the same
> >> >> >> > server
> >> >> >> > as
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > My
> >> >> >> > Docs folder redirection share, it is not available at all. It
> >> >> >> > looks
> >> >> >> > like
> >> >> >> > this is true since it is the same server, as I can get to shares
> >> >> >> > on
> >> >> >> > a
> >> >> >> > different server while on the slow link. Is this correct, or do
> >> >> >> > I
> >> >> >> > need
> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> > reboot the server in order for the offline setting to take place?
> >> >> >> > Thanks
> >> >> >> > again for your help!
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "Anthony [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> The Offline Files feature is primarily concerned with when the
> >> >> >> >> files
> >> >> >> >> are
> >> >> >> >> simply not available, e.g. when you are offline. But you can set
> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> Slow
> >> >> >> >> Link detection so that a slow link is assumed to be offline for
> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> purposes
> >> >> >> >> of Offline Files, even tho it is not in fact offline. If you
> >> >> >> >> Disable
> >> >> >> >> slow
> >> >> >> >> link detection, then the files are considered online until they
> >> >> >> >> are
> >> >> >> >> truly
> >> >> >> >> not connected at all, at which point you can use the files in
> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> offline
> >> >> >> >> cache.
> >> >> >> >> Anthony,
> >> >> >> >> http://www.airdesk.co.uk
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> "Marjorie_VFB" <MarjorieVFB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> news:5914BE96-5967-4A6F-9B6A-21A3BA93922B@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> >> > Thanks for your quick response. I will check with our network
> >> >> >> >> > admin
> >> >> >> >> > if
> >> >> >> >> > it
> >> >> >> >> > is
> >> >> >> >> > possible to change the "common" share properties as you
> >> >> >> >> > suggest.
> >> >> >> >> > Am
> >> >> >> >> > I
> >> >> >> >> > correct in thinking that the netcache value referenced will
> >> >> >> >> > force
> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> > workstation into offline mode all the time?
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > "Anthony [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> Marjorie,
> >> >> >> >> >> In XP I don't know of a way to pick and choose what is
> >> >> >> >> >> offline
> >> >> >> >> >> at a
> >> >> >> >> >> point
> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> time. Your option would be to not make the mapped drive
> >> >> >> >> >> locations
> >> >> >> >> >> available
> >> >> >> >> >> offline (in the Sharing properties on the server), so over a
> >> >> >> >> >> slow
> >> >> >> >> >> link
> >> >> >> >> >> they
> >> >> >> >> >> would still be online.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> In Vista you have much more control of going "offline"
> >> >> >> >> >> selectively.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> In XP there is not an option to schedule the sync in Group
> >> >> >> >> >> Policy,
> >> >> >> >> >> but
> >> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> >> user can do it in the Synchronisation properties. You can
> >> >> >> >> >> synchronise
> >> >> >> >> >> manually, or you can set it to synchronise when idle and
> >> >> >> >> >> every
> >> >> >> >> >> xx
> >> >> >> >> >> minutes. I
> >> >> >> >> >> dare say you could implement this through the registry but I
> >> >> >> >> >> haven't
> >> >> >> >> >> tried.
> >> >> >> >> >> Anthony,
> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.airdesk.co.uk
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> "Marjorie_VFB" <Marjorie_VFB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> news:8AF9B903-F3A9-4F43-A868-2700A7CCC822@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> >> >> >I have 2 questions regarding GPO for FolderRedirection for
> >> >> >> >> >> >My
> >> >> >> >> >> >Documents
> >> >> >> >> >> >on
> >> >> >> >> >> >XP
> >> >> >> >> >> > Sp2:
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > 1. We are testing out the gpo for folder redirection and
> >> >> >> >> >> > offline
> >> >> >> >> >> > files
> >> >> >> >> >> > for
> >> >> >> >> >> > our remote users over a 512 k MPLS WAN. In order to speed
> >> >> >> >> >> > up
> >> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> >> > access
> >> >> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> >> >> > documents, I added the netcache registry setting for
> >> >> >> >> >> > GoOfflineOnSlowLink=1
> >> >> >> >> >> > so
> >> >> >> >> >> > our users would be using offline files. However, we now
> >> >> >> >> >> > are
> >> >> >> >> >> > getting
> >> >> >> >> >> > reports
> >> >> >> >> >> > that they cannot access their mapped drive because they are
> >> >> >> >> >> > offline.
> >> >> >> >> >> > What
> >> >> >> >> >> > will happen if I change the netcache value to 0? How can I
> >> >> >> >> >> > configure
> >> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> >> > settings for GPO to speed up access to files while
> >> >> >> >> >> > continuing
> >> >> >> >> >> > access
> >> >> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> >> >> > mapped drives?
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > 2. Also, I am wondering if there is a GPO to schedule sync
> >> >> >> >> >> > during
> >> >> >> >> >> > off
> >> >> >> >> >> > hours?
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
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