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Thread: Extending the schema in Windows Server 2008?

  1. #1
    Nils Löber Guest

    Extending the schema in Windows Server 2008?

    Hi All!

    Are there any changes to the way Windows Server 2008 handles schema
    extensions? Will existing software that modifies the schema continue to work
    or are there additional considerations to look out for?

    Or, to put it even broader: Are there any changes in the schema
    infrastructure?

    I know that W2K8 updates the schema (as does Exchange, and R2 and all kinds
    of software), but that is not what I am interested in. I am interested in
    changes to the underlying schema technology, e.g. when Windows Server 2003
    came along, it was suddenly possible to reuse OIDs of disabled schema
    attributes, which wasn't possible in Windows 2000. That kind of change. New
    features, or changes in existing features or deprecations of features.

    Does anybody know of any changes or has first-hand experience with extending
    the schema in W2K8 by whatever means (script, LDIFDE, GUI)?

    Unfortunately, searching the web and the newsgroups didn't turn up anything.

    I'd be grateful for any kind of advice or for any experiences shared.

    Best regards
    Nils Loeber



  2. #2
    Joe Kaplan Guest

    Re: Extending the schema in Windows Server 2008?

    Existing software should continue to work.

    Autogeneration of link IDs is now documented in MSDN, so you should probably
    start using that if you weren't already. That feature existed in 2003 but
    wasn't documented.

    There are some interesting new searchFlags values you can set, although
    curiously they have not been documented by the MSDN team but are coming in
    as community content from the MVPs. These relate to the RODC filtered
    attribute set and audit limitations. There is also a typo in the MSDN docs
    that is mentioned.

    http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...65(VS.85).aspx

    I hope that helps some. I'm not aware of any other major changes. For
    example, there is still no full schema delete capability.

    Joe K.

    --
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    Co-author of "The .NET Developer's Guide to Directory Services Programming"
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    "Nils Löber" <nloeber***REMOVETHIS4SPAMREASONS***@nils-loeber.de> wrote in
    message news:33E1C897-4D10-40D8-AB4C-97ACA4AE61C3@microsoft.com...
    > Hi All!
    >
    > Are there any changes to the way Windows Server 2008 handles schema
    > extensions? Will existing software that modifies the schema continue to
    > work or are there additional considerations to look out for?
    >
    > Or, to put it even broader: Are there any changes in the schema
    > infrastructure?
    >
    > I know that W2K8 updates the schema (as does Exchange, and R2 and all
    > kinds of software), but that is not what I am interested in. I am
    > interested in changes to the underlying schema technology, e.g. when
    > Windows Server 2003 came along, it was suddenly possible to reuse OIDs of
    > disabled schema attributes, which wasn't possible in Windows 2000. That
    > kind of change. New features, or changes in existing features or
    > deprecations of features.
    >
    > Does anybody know of any changes or has first-hand experience with
    > extending the schema in W2K8 by whatever means (script, LDIFDE, GUI)?
    >
    > Unfortunately, searching the web and the newsgroups didn't turn up
    > anything.
    >
    > I'd be grateful for any kind of advice or for any experiences shared.
    >
    > Best regards
    > Nils Loeber
    >
    >




  3. #3
    Nils Löber Guest

    Re: Extending the schema in Windows Server 2008?

    Thank you, Joe. That information is quite useful.

    Best regards
    Nils

    "Joe Kaplan" <joseph.e.kaplan@removethis.accenture.com> schrieb im
    Newsbeitrag news:eN795NPaIHA.6140@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    > Existing software should continue to work.
    >
    > Autogeneration of link IDs is now documented in MSDN, so you should
    > probably start using that if you weren't already. That feature existed in
    > 2003 but wasn't documented.
    >
    > There are some interesting new searchFlags values you can set, although
    > curiously they have not been documented by the MSDN team but are coming in
    > as community content from the MVPs. These relate to the RODC filtered
    > attribute set and audit limitations. There is also a typo in the MSDN
    > docs that is mentioned.
    >
    > http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...65(VS.85).aspx
    >
    > I hope that helps some. I'm not aware of any other major changes. For
    > example, there is still no full schema delete capability.
    >
    > Joe K.
    >
    > --
    > Joe Kaplan-MS MVP Directory Services Programming
    > Co-author of "The .NET Developer's Guide to Directory Services
    > Programming"
    > http://www.directoryprogramming.net
    > --
    > "Nils Löber" <nloeber***REMOVETHIS4SPAMREASONS***@nils-loeber.de> wrote in
    > message news:33E1C897-4D10-40D8-AB4C-97ACA4AE61C3@microsoft.com...
    >> Hi All!
    >>
    >> Are there any changes to the way Windows Server 2008 handles schema
    >> extensions? Will existing software that modifies the schema continue to
    >> work or are there additional considerations to look out for?
    >>
    >> Or, to put it even broader: Are there any changes in the schema
    >> infrastructure?
    >>
    >> I know that W2K8 updates the schema (as does Exchange, and R2 and all
    >> kinds of software), but that is not what I am interested in. I am
    >> interested in changes to the underlying schema technology, e.g. when
    >> Windows Server 2003 came along, it was suddenly possible to reuse OIDs of
    >> disabled schema attributes, which wasn't possible in Windows 2000. That
    >> kind of change. New features, or changes in existing features or
    >> deprecations of features.
    >>
    >> Does anybody know of any changes or has first-hand experience with
    >> extending the schema in W2K8 by whatever means (script, LDIFDE, GUI)?
    >>
    >> Unfortunately, searching the web and the newsgroups didn't turn up
    >> anything.
    >>
    >> I'd be grateful for any kind of advice or for any experiences shared.
    >>
    >> Best regards
    >> Nils Loeber
    >>
    >>

    >
    >



  4. #4
    Jorge de Almeida Pinto [MVP - DS] Guest

    Re: Extending the schema in Windows Server 2008?

    like Joe said, the extension of the searchFlags attribute property for
    auditing and RODC-FAS

    another interesting only is that objectClass is now indexed in w2k8 AD. in
    w2k, w2k3 it was not indexed

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    "Joe Kaplan" <joseph.e.kaplan@removethis.accenture.com> wrote in message
    news:eN795NPaIHA.6140@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    > Existing software should continue to work.
    >
    > Autogeneration of link IDs is now documented in MSDN, so you should
    > probably start using that if you weren't already. That feature existed in
    > 2003 but wasn't documented.
    >
    > There are some interesting new searchFlags values you can set, although
    > curiously they have not been documented by the MSDN team but are coming in
    > as community content from the MVPs. These relate to the RODC filtered
    > attribute set and audit limitations. There is also a typo in the MSDN
    > docs that is mentioned.
    >
    > http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...65(VS.85).aspx
    >
    > I hope that helps some. I'm not aware of any other major changes. For
    > example, there is still no full schema delete capability.
    >
    > Joe K.
    >
    > --
    > Joe Kaplan-MS MVP Directory Services Programming
    > Co-author of "The .NET Developer's Guide to Directory Services
    > Programming"
    > http://www.directoryprogramming.net
    > --
    > "Nils Löber" <nloeber***REMOVETHIS4SPAMREASONS***@nils-loeber.de> wrote in
    > message news:33E1C897-4D10-40D8-AB4C-97ACA4AE61C3@microsoft.com...
    >> Hi All!
    >>
    >> Are there any changes to the way Windows Server 2008 handles schema
    >> extensions? Will existing software that modifies the schema continue to
    >> work or are there additional considerations to look out for?
    >>
    >> Or, to put it even broader: Are there any changes in the schema
    >> infrastructure?
    >>
    >> I know that W2K8 updates the schema (as does Exchange, and R2 and all
    >> kinds of software), but that is not what I am interested in. I am
    >> interested in changes to the underlying schema technology, e.g. when
    >> Windows Server 2003 came along, it was suddenly possible to reuse OIDs of
    >> disabled schema attributes, which wasn't possible in Windows 2000. That
    >> kind of change. New features, or changes in existing features or
    >> deprecations of features.
    >>
    >> Does anybody know of any changes or has first-hand experience with
    >> extending the schema in W2K8 by whatever means (script, LDIFDE, GUI)?
    >>
    >> Unfortunately, searching the web and the newsgroups didn't turn up
    >> anything.
    >>
    >> I'd be grateful for any kind of advice or for any experiences shared.
    >>
    >> Best regards
    >> Nils Loeber
    >>
    >>

    >
    >



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