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Old 24-10-2007
jslutzky
 
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Windows 2003 Server Standard Domain Controller multiple NICs

I configured a Windows Server 2003 Standard Domain Controller at one of our
call centers and it working fine. The server has two NIC's with one of them
deactivated. The problem is that I'm going to have to bring on another
subnet (VLAN) and wanted to know if I could enable the second NIC card
servicing the new subnet. Can a domain controller service multiple subnets?
Would this affect AD? Do I need to have a seperate DC for the other Subnet?

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Old 24-10-2007
Jorge Silva
 
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Re: Windows 2003 Server Standard Domain Controller multiple NICs

Hi
check
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/272294

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===================================
I hope that the information above helps you.
Have a Nice day.

Jorge Silva
MCSE, MVP Directory Services
===================================

"jslutzky" <jslutzky@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1F497B3E-D087-41D6-B536-17929858B152@microsoft.com...
>I configured a Windows Server 2003 Standard Domain Controller at one of our
> call centers and it working fine. The server has two NIC's with one of
> them
> deactivated. The problem is that I'm going to have to bring on another
> subnet (VLAN) and wanted to know if I could enable the second NIC card
> servicing the new subnet. Can a domain controller service multiple
> subnets?
> Would this affect AD? Do I need to have a seperate DC for the other
> Subnet?
>



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Old 24-10-2007
jslutzky
 
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Re: Windows 2003 Server Standard Domain Controller multiple NICs

Thank you. Does it matter if both subnets are both internal and not
servicing external addressing?

I'll read further.


"Jorge Silva" wrote:

> Hi
> check
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/272294
>
> --
>
> ===================================
> I hope that the information above helps you.
> Have a Nice day.
>
> Jorge Silva
> MCSE, MVP Directory Services
> ===================================
>
> "jslutzky" <jslutzky@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:1F497B3E-D087-41D6-B536-17929858B152@microsoft.com...
> >I configured a Windows Server 2003 Standard Domain Controller at one of our
> > call centers and it working fine. The server has two NIC's with one of
> > them
> > deactivated. The problem is that I'm going to have to bring on another
> > subnet (VLAN) and wanted to know if I could enable the second NIC card
> > servicing the new subnet. Can a domain controller service multiple
> > subnets?
> > Would this affect AD? Do I need to have a seperate DC for the other
> > Subnet?
> >

>
>
>

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Old 24-10-2007
Austin Osuide
 
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Re: Windows 2003 Server Standard Domain Controller multiple NICs

Why do you want to multihome the DC?
Is it just because it has 2 NICs?
You can remove the other NIC to help resist the temptation. Setting up
another VLAN has nothing to do with your DC.
So long as you configure your routing infrastructure so clients can get to
the DC, you have no problems. Issues arise when you want to segregate the
LANs and if they should not see each other I'm sure there are still ways you
can configure that with the routers without multihoming the DCs and if
that's not acceptable, get 2 DCs for the segregated LANs.
Multi-homed DCs, with both interfaces servicing clients, I can only imagine,
will cause you loads of pain.

Regards,

Austin


"jslutzky" <jslutzky@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1F497B3E-D087-41D6-B536-17929858B152@microsoft.com...
>I configured a Windows Server 2003 Standard Domain Controller at one of our
> call centers and it working fine. The server has two NIC's with one of
> them
> deactivated. The problem is that I'm going to have to bring on another
> subnet (VLAN) and wanted to know if I could enable the second NIC card
> servicing the new subnet. Can a domain controller service multiple
> subnets?
> Would this affect AD? Do I need to have a seperate DC for the other
> Subnet?
>




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Old 24-10-2007
Jorge Silva
 
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Re: Windows 2003 Server Standard Domain Controller multiple NICs

Multihomed DCs are not recommend due name resolution problems and others
problems, you can search for multihomed domain controllers.
You should configure Active Directory sites and services to serve both
subnets, but it should be up to your routing topolicy/configuration to route
clients outside DCs subnet to tha DC.

--

===================================
I hope that the information above helps you.
Have a Nice day.

Jorge Silva
MCSE, MVP Directory Services
===================================

"jslutzky" <jslutzky@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A43D38D9-480A-476C-8B94-9B0BFB1AAB38@microsoft.com...
> Thank you. Does it matter if both subnets are both internal and not
> servicing external addressing?
>
> I'll read further.
>
>
> "Jorge Silva" wrote:
>
>> Hi
>> check
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/272294
>>
>> --
>>
>> ===================================
>> I hope that the information above helps you.
>> Have a Nice day.
>>
>> Jorge Silva
>> MCSE, MVP Directory Services
>> ===================================
>>
>> "jslutzky" <jslutzky@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:1F497B3E-D087-41D6-B536-17929858B152@microsoft.com...
>> >I configured a Windows Server 2003 Standard Domain Controller at one of
>> >our
>> > call centers and it working fine. The server has two NIC's with one of
>> > them
>> > deactivated. The problem is that I'm going to have to bring on another
>> > subnet (VLAN) and wanted to know if I could enable the second NIC card
>> > servicing the new subnet. Can a domain controller service multiple
>> > subnets?
>> > Would this affect AD? Do I need to have a seperate DC for the other
>> > Subnet?
>> >

>>
>>
>>



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Old 24-10-2007
jslutzky
 
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Re: Windows 2003 Server Standard Domain Controller multiple NICs

All I want to do is add another private subnet which I can do by adding
another address to the existing NIC. There is no reason why the two subnets
can not coexist. Do I not have to make changes to internal DNS regarding the
DC? I'm really not trying to make it any more difficult than it is. Just
want to make sure

"Austin Osuide" wrote:

> Why do you want to multihome the DC?
> Is it just because it has 2 NICs?
> You can remove the other NIC to help resist the temptation. Setting up
> another VLAN has nothing to do with your DC.
> So long as you configure your routing infrastructure so clients can get to
> the DC, you have no problems. Issues arise when you want to segregate the
> LANs and if they should not see each other I'm sure there are still ways you
> can configure that with the routers without multihoming the DCs and if
> that's not acceptable, get 2 DCs for the segregated LANs.
> Multi-homed DCs, with both interfaces servicing clients, I can only imagine,
> will cause you loads of pain.
>
> Regards,
>
> Austin
>
>
> "jslutzky" <jslutzky@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:1F497B3E-D087-41D6-B536-17929858B152@microsoft.com...
> >I configured a Windows Server 2003 Standard Domain Controller at one of our
> > call centers and it working fine. The server has two NIC's with one of
> > them
> > deactivated. The problem is that I'm going to have to bring on another
> > subnet (VLAN) and wanted to know if I could enable the second NIC card
> > servicing the new subnet. Can a domain controller service multiple
> > subnets?
> > Would this affect AD? Do I need to have a seperate DC for the other
> > Subnet?
> >

>
>
>
>

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Old 24-10-2007
Austin Osuide
 
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Re: Windows 2003 Server Standard Domain Controller multiple NICs

Why on the DC??
DCs are not routers! They don't join subnets.

Regards,

Austin

"jslutzky" <jslutzky@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:70ADA770-0CF2-4FD3-BF6E-FFD06BEF2CAE@microsoft.com...
> All I want to do is add another private subnet which I can do by adding
> another address to the existing NIC. There is no reason why the two
> subnets
> can not coexist. Do I not have to make changes to internal DNS regarding
> the
> DC? I'm really not trying to make it any more difficult than it is. Just
> want to make sure
>
> "Austin Osuide" wrote:
>
>> Why do you want to multihome the DC?
>> Is it just because it has 2 NICs?
>> You can remove the other NIC to help resist the temptation. Setting up
>> another VLAN has nothing to do with your DC.
>> So long as you configure your routing infrastructure so clients can get
>> to
>> the DC, you have no problems. Issues arise when you want to segregate the
>> LANs and if they should not see each other I'm sure there are still ways
>> you
>> can configure that with the routers without multihoming the DCs and if
>> that's not acceptable, get 2 DCs for the segregated LANs.
>> Multi-homed DCs, with both interfaces servicing clients, I can only
>> imagine,
>> will cause you loads of pain.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Austin
>>
>>
>> "jslutzky" <jslutzky@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:1F497B3E-D087-41D6-B536-17929858B152@microsoft.com...
>> >I configured a Windows Server 2003 Standard Domain Controller at one of
>> >our
>> > call centers and it working fine. The server has two NIC's with one of
>> > them
>> > deactivated. The problem is that I'm going to have to bring on another
>> > subnet (VLAN) and wanted to know if I could enable the second NIC card
>> > servicing the new subnet. Can a domain controller service multiple
>> > subnets?
>> > Would this affect AD? Do I need to have a seperate DC for the other
>> > Subnet?
>> >

>>
>>
>>
>>


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Old 24-10-2007
jslutzky
 
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Re: Windows 2003 Server Standard Domain Controller multiple NICs

I'm probably not explaining myself correctly. I currently have 192.168.5.xxx
network that clients reside on with the DC on that network. I am now adding
200 more workstations that will reside on a new network 192.168.8.xxx which
will need to be part of the domain. With that being said they will need to
be able to communicate with the domain controller on the 192.168.5.xxx
network, so the DC should listen for both 192.168.5.xxx / 8.xxx traffic.
Correct?


"Austin Osuide" wrote:

> Why on the DC??
> DCs are not routers! They don't join subnets.
>
> Regards,
>
> Austin
>
> "jslutzky" <jslutzky@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:70ADA770-0CF2-4FD3-BF6E-FFD06BEF2CAE@microsoft.com...
> > All I want to do is add another private subnet which I can do by adding
> > another address to the existing NIC. There is no reason why the two
> > subnets
> > can not coexist. Do I not have to make changes to internal DNS regarding
> > the
> > DC? I'm really not trying to make it any more difficult than it is. Just
> > want to make sure
> >
> > "Austin Osuide" wrote:
> >
> >> Why do you want to multihome the DC?
> >> Is it just because it has 2 NICs?
> >> You can remove the other NIC to help resist the temptation. Setting up
> >> another VLAN has nothing to do with your DC.
> >> So long as you configure your routing infrastructure so clients can get
> >> to
> >> the DC, you have no problems. Issues arise when you want to segregate the
> >> LANs and if they should not see each other I'm sure there are still ways
> >> you
> >> can configure that with the routers without multihoming the DCs and if
> >> that's not acceptable, get 2 DCs for the segregated LANs.
> >> Multi-homed DCs, with both interfaces servicing clients, I can only
> >> imagine,
> >> will cause you loads of pain.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Austin
> >>
> >>
> >> "jslutzky" <jslutzky@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1F497B3E-D087-41D6-B536-17929858B152@microsoft.com...
> >> >I configured a Windows Server 2003 Standard Domain Controller at one of
> >> >our
> >> > call centers and it working fine. The server has two NIC's with one of
> >> > them
> >> > deactivated. The problem is that I'm going to have to bring on another
> >> > subnet (VLAN) and wanted to know if I could enable the second NIC card
> >> > servicing the new subnet. Can a domain controller service multiple
> >> > subnets?
> >> > Would this affect AD? Do I need to have a seperate DC for the other
> >> > Subnet?
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>

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  #9  
Old 25-10-2007
Jorge Silva
 
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Re: Windows 2003 Server Standard Domain Controller multiple NICs

It's not recommended (doesn't mean that you can't do it), because is likely
that you end up with other problems already described.

The best would be to have a router that handled both subnets


--

===================================
I hope that the information above helps you.
Have a Nice day.

Jorge Silva
MCSE, MVP Directory Services
===================================

"jslutzky" <jslutzky@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6217706D-3043-40F1-807A-F48195AA40DD@microsoft.com...
> I'm probably not explaining myself correctly. I currently have
> 192.168.5.xxx
> network that clients reside on with the DC on that network. I am now
> adding
> 200 more workstations that will reside on a new network 192.168.8.xxx
> which
> will need to be part of the domain. With that being said they will need
> to
> be able to communicate with the domain controller on the 192.168.5.xxx
> network, so the DC should listen for both 192.168.5.xxx / 8.xxx traffic.
> Correct?
>
>
> "Austin Osuide" wrote:
>
>> Why on the DC??
>> DCs are not routers! They don't join subnets.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Austin
>>
>> "jslutzky" <jslutzky@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:70ADA770-0CF2-4FD3-BF6E-FFD06BEF2CAE@microsoft.com...
>> > All I want to do is add another private subnet which I can do by adding
>> > another address to the existing NIC. There is no reason why the two
>> > subnets
>> > can not coexist. Do I not have to make changes to internal DNS
>> > regarding
>> > the
>> > DC? I'm really not trying to make it any more difficult than it is.
>> > Just
>> > want to make sure
>> >
>> > "Austin Osuide" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Why do you want to multihome the DC?
>> >> Is it just because it has 2 NICs?
>> >> You can remove the other NIC to help resist the temptation. Setting up
>> >> another VLAN has nothing to do with your DC.
>> >> So long as you configure your routing infrastructure so clients can
>> >> get
>> >> to
>> >> the DC, you have no problems. Issues arise when you want to segregate
>> >> the
>> >> LANs and if they should not see each other I'm sure there are still
>> >> ways
>> >> you
>> >> can configure that with the routers without multihoming the DCs and if
>> >> that's not acceptable, get 2 DCs for the segregated LANs.
>> >> Multi-homed DCs, with both interfaces servicing clients, I can only
>> >> imagine,
>> >> will cause you loads of pain.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> Austin
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "jslutzky" <jslutzky@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:1F497B3E-D087-41D6-B536-17929858B152@microsoft.com...
>> >> >I configured a Windows Server 2003 Standard Domain Controller at one
>> >> >of
>> >> >our
>> >> > call centers and it working fine. The server has two NIC's with one
>> >> > of
>> >> > them
>> >> > deactivated. The problem is that I'm going to have to bring on
>> >> > another
>> >> > subnet (VLAN) and wanted to know if I could enable the second NIC
>> >> > card
>> >> > servicing the new subnet. Can a domain controller service multiple
>> >> > subnets?
>> >> > Would this affect AD? Do I need to have a seperate DC for the other
>> >> > Subnet?
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>

>>
>>



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Old 25-10-2007
Austin Osuide
 
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Re: Windows 2003 Server Standard Domain Controller multiple NICs

We understand you. At least I think I do.
You DC does not care where your clients are wrt subnets.
If your routing infrastructure is setup correctly, and you have your DNS
servers correctly entered into clients, your DC only needs the 1 IP address
it has.
What you have right now is Network routing issue. Leave the DC as is with
one NIC and one IP address.

Regards,

Austin

"jslutzky" <jslutzky@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6217706D-3043-40F1-807A-F48195AA40DD@microsoft.com...
> I'm probably not explaining myself correctly. I currently have
> 192.168.5.xxx
> network that clients reside on with the DC on that network. I am now
> adding
> 200 more workstations that will reside on a new network 192.168.8.xxx
> which
> will need to be part of the domain. With that being said they will need
> to
> be able to communicate with the domain controller on the 192.168.5.xxx
> network, so the DC should listen for both 192.168.5.xxx / 8.xxx traffic.
> Correct?
>
>
> "Austin Osuide" wrote:
>
>> Why on the DC??
>> DCs are not routers! They don't join subnets.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Austin
>>
>> "jslutzky" <jslutzky@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:70ADA770-0CF2-4FD3-BF6E-FFD06BEF2CAE@microsoft.com...
>> > All I want to do is add another private subnet which I can do by adding
>> > another address to the existing NIC. There is no reason why the two
>> > subnets
>> > can not coexist. Do I not have to make changes to internal DNS
>> > regarding
>> > the
>> > DC? I'm really not trying to make it any more difficult than it is.
>> > Just
>> > want to make sure
>> >
>> > "Austin Osuide" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Why do you want to multihome the DC?
>> >> Is it just because it has 2 NICs?
>> >> You can remove the other NIC to help resist the temptation. Setting up
>> >> another VLAN has nothing to do with your DC.
>> >> So long as you configure your routing infrastructure so clients can
>> >> get
>> >> to
>> >> the DC, you have no problems. Issues arise when you want to segregate
>> >> the
>> >> LANs and if they should not see each other I'm sure there are still
>> >> ways
>> >> you
>> >> can configure that with the routers without multihoming the DCs and if
>> >> that's not acceptable, get 2 DCs for the segregated LANs.
>> >> Multi-homed DCs, with both interfaces servicing clients, I can only
>> >> imagine,
>> >> will cause you loads of pain.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> Austin
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "jslutzky" <jslutzky@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:1F497B3E-D087-41D6-B536-17929858B152@microsoft.com...
>> >> >I configured a Windows Server 2003 Standard Domain Controller at one
>> >> >of
>> >> >our
>> >> > call centers and it working fine. The server has two NIC's with one
>> >> > of
>> >> > them
>> >> > deactivated. The problem is that I'm going to have to bring on
>> >> > another
>> >> > subnet (VLAN) and wanted to know if I could enable the second NIC
>> >> > card
>> >> > servicing the new subnet. Can a domain controller service multiple
>> >> > subnets?
>> >> > Would this affect AD? Do I need to have a seperate DC for the other
>> >> > Subnet?
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>

>>
>>


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Old 25-10-2007
jslutzky
 
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RE: Windows 2003 Server Standard Domain Controller multiple NICs

I'm receiving e-mails telling me people are responding but I don't see them
in the response tree.

You can email directly at jslutzky@affinitas.net


"jslutzky" wrote:

> I configured a Windows Server 2003 Standard Domain Controller at one of our
> call centers and it working fine. The server has two NIC's with one of them
> deactivated. The problem is that I'm going to have to bring on another
> subnet (VLAN) and wanted to know if I could enable the second NIC card
> servicing the new subnet. Can a domain controller service multiple subnets?
> Would this affect AD? Do I need to have a seperate DC for the other Subnet?
>

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