Joining windows server 2003 to windows 2008 domain

Good morning. I'm having a problem joining a windows 2003 member server to a
2008 domain. The forest level and domain level are 2008, DNS is installed on
2 root dc's, but wins isn't installed. When i try to join the 2003 server to
the domain using the FQDN global.ifsmifa.com, I'm prompted for the password,
but then recieve the network path was not found. The dns servers are
configured correctly and if I nslookup global, the name server is returned
correctly and the 2 domain controller ips. I've had no problem joining other
2008 servers to the domain.

Also if I just enter global as the domain the following is returned:

Note: This information is intended for a network administrator. If you are
not your network's administrator, notify the administrator that you received
this information, which has been recorded in the file
C:\WINNT\debug\dcdiag.txt.

The domain name global might be a NetBIOS domain name. If this is the case,
verify that the domain name is properly registered with WINS.

If you are certain that the name is not a NetBIOS domain name, then the
following information can help you troubleshoot your DNS configuration.

DNS was successfully queried for the service location (SRV) resource record
used to locate a domain controller for domain global:

The query was for the SRV record for _ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs.global

The following domain controllers were identified by the query:

globaldc01.global.ifsmifa.com
globaldc02.global.ifsmifa.com

Common causes of this error include:

- Host (A) records that map the name of the domain controller to its IP
addresses are missing or contain incorrect addresses.

- Domain controllers registered in DNS are not connected to the network or
are not running.

For information about correcting this problem, click Help.

"Dylan" wrote:

> Good morning. I'm having a problem joining a windows 2003 member server to a
> 2008 domain. The forest level and domain level are 2008, DNS is installed on
> 2 root dc's, but wins isn't installed. When i try to join the 2003 server to
> the domain using the FQDN global.ifsmifa.com, I'm prompted for the password,
> but then recieve the network path was not found. The dns servers are
> configured correctly and if I nslookup global, the name server is returned
> correctly and the 2 domain controller ips. I've had no problem joining other
> 2008 servers to the domain.

Hello Dylan,

Please post an unedited ipconfig /all from the 2003 and the DNS servers,
so we can check the settings. Are firewalls in use on the machines?

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no rights.
** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
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> Good morning. I'm having a problem joining a windows 2003 member
> server to a 2008 domain. The forest level and domain level are 2008,
> DNS is installed on 2 root dc's, but wins isn't installed. When i try
> to join the 2003 server to the domain using the FQDN
> global.ifsmifa.com, I'm prompted for the password, but then recieve
> the network path was not found. The dns servers are configured
> correctly and if I nslookup global, the name server is returned
> correctly and the 2 domain controller ips. I've had no problem joining
> other 2008 servers to the domain.
>

Hi Meinolf, here is the info for the DNS server:

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : ifsmifadc01
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : ifsmifa.com
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : ifsmifa.com
global.ifsmifa.com
mourant.local
jersey.mourant.local

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 3:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : HP Network Team #1
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-22-64-9A-A5-34
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 10.41.4.1(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.41.4.254
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.55.1.1
127.0.0.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

and here is the info for the 2003 server:

Windows IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : JSYUNITY01

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : global.ifsmifa.com

ifsmifa.com

jersey.mourant.local

mourant.local



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : HP NC373i Multifunction Gigabit
Server Adapter

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-24-81-89-98-3A

DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.41.8.82

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.41.8.254

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.41.4.1

10.55.1.1

10.41.4.2

Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 10.41.4.1

Secondary WINS Server . . . . . . : 10.55.1.1

I've jusy changed the dns servers to that of a different domain and tried to
join that domain, but get the same error, so it looks more like a server
problem than domain.

Cheers, Dylan.

"Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote:

> Hello Dylan,
>
> Please post an unedited ipconfig /all from the 2003 and the DNS servers,
> so we can check the settings. Are firewalls in use on the machines?
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>
> > Good morning. I'm having a problem joining a windows 2003 member
> > server to a 2008 domain. The forest level and domain level are 2008,
> > DNS is installed on 2 root dc's, but wins isn't installed. When i try
> > to join the 2003 server to the domain using the FQDN
> > global.ifsmifa.com, I'm prompted for the password, but then recieve
> > the network path was not found. The dns servers are configured
> > correctly and if I nslookup global, the name server is returned
> > correctly and the 2 domain controller ips. I've had no problem joining
> > other 2008 servers to the domain.
> >
>
>
> .
>

Hi Meinolf, here is the info for the DNS server:

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : ifsmifadc01
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : ifsmifa.com
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : ifsmifa.com
global.ifsmifa.com
mourant.local
jersey.mourant.local

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 3:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : HP Network Team #1
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-22-64-9A-A5-34
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 10.41.4.1(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.41.4.254
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.55.1.1
127.0.0.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

and here is the info for the 2003 server:

Windows IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : JSYUNITY01

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : global.ifsmifa.com

ifsmifa.com

jersey.mourant.local

mourant.local



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : HP NC373i Multifunction Gigabit
Server Adapter

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-24-81-89-98-3A

DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.41.8.82

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.41.8.254

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.41.4.1

10.55.1.1

10.41.4.2

Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 10.41.4.1

Secondary WINS Server . . . . . . : 10.55.1.1

I've jusy changed the dns servers to that of a different domain and tried to
join that domain, but get the same error, so it looks more like a server
problem than domain.

Cheers, Dylan.
"Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote:

> Hello Dylan,
>
> Please post an unedited ipconfig /all from the 2003 and the DNS servers,
> so we can check the settings. Are firewalls in use on the machines?
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>
> > Good morning. I'm having a problem joining a windows 2003 member
> > server to a 2008 domain. The forest level and domain level are 2008,
> > DNS is installed on 2 root dc's, but wins isn't installed. When i try
> > to join the 2003 server to the domain using the FQDN
> > global.ifsmifa.com, I'm prompted for the password, but then recieve
> > the network path was not found. The dns servers are configured
> > correctly and if I nslookup global, the name server is returned
> > correctly and the 2 domain controller ips. I've had no problem joining
> > other 2008 servers to the domain.
> >
>
>
> .
>

Hello Dylan,

Something looks strange in your config. What's with all those dns suffixes?
I am guessing that the DNS server that you point to is a DC in a parent
domain (ifsmifa.com). Why don't you interrogate directly a DNS/DC from the
global.ifsmifa.com domain?
The file netsetup.log file located here %SystemRoot%\debug\netsetup.log can
provide some additional information about the domain join issue.

Andrei,
www.winadmins.net

"Dylan" <Dylan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AE2E3557-DEAA-4FC1-88A8-279019A00CC7@microsoft.com...
>
> Hi Meinolf, here is the info for the DNS server:
>
> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : ifsmifadc01
> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : ifsmifa.com
> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : ifsmifa.com
> global.ifsmifa.com
> mourant.local
> jersey.mourant.local
>
> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 3:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : HP Network Team #1
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-22-64-9A-A5-34
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 10.41.4.1(Preferred)
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.41.4.254
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.55.1.1
> 127.0.0.1
> NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
>
> and here is the info for the 2003 server:
>
> Windows IP Configuration
>
>
>
> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : JSYUNITY01
>
> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
>
> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
>
> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>
> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>
> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : global.ifsmifa.com
>
> ifsmifa.com
>
> jersey.mourant.local
>
> mourant.local
>
>
>
> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
>
>
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
>
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : HP NC373i Multifunction Gigabit
> Server Adapter
>
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-24-81-89-98-3A
>
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
>
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.41.8.82
>
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.41.8.254
>
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.41.4.1
>
> 10.55.1.1
>
> 10.41.4.2
>
> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 10.41.4.1
>
> Secondary WINS Server . . . . . . : 10.55.1.1
>
> I've jusy changed the dns servers to that of a different domain and tried
> to
> join that domain, but get the same error, so it looks more like a server
> problem than domain.
>
> Cheers, Dylan.
> "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote:
>
>> Hello Dylan,
>>
>> Please post an unedited ipconfig /all from the 2003 and the DNS servers,
>> so we can check the settings. Are firewalls in use on the machines?
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers
>> no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>
>>
>> > Good morning. I'm having a problem joining a windows 2003 member
>> > server to a 2008 domain. The forest level and domain level are 2008,
>> > DNS is installed on 2 root dc's, but wins isn't installed. When i try
>> > to join the 2003 server to the domain using the FQDN
>> > global.ifsmifa.com, I'm prompted for the password, but then recieve
>> > the network path was not found. The dns servers are configured
>> > correctly and if I nslookup global, the name server is returned
>> > correctly and the 2 domain controller ips. I've had no problem joining
>> > other 2008 servers to the domain.
>> >
>>
>>
>> .
>>

Hello Dylan,

Why do you use "mourant.local" and "jersey.mourant.local" also on the DNS
suffix search list. Use only the domain internal. Also on the DNS use itself
as preferred DNS server and the other subnet ones as secondary, if the link
to the other subnet is down you can run into trouble with the currect configuration.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no rights.
** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm


> Hi Meinolf, here is the info for the DNS server:
>
> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : ifsmifadc01
> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : ifsmifa.com
> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : ifsmifa.com
> global.ifsmifa.com
> mourant.local
> jersey.mourant.local
> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 3:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : HP Network Team #1
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-22-64-9A-A5-34
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 10.41.4.1(Preferred)
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.41.4.254
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.55.1.1
> 127.0.0.1
> NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
> and here is the info for the 2003 server:
>
> Windows IP Configuration
>
> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : JSYUNITY01
>
> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
>
> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
>
> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>
> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>
> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : global.ifsmifa.com
>
> ifsmifa.com
>
> jersey.mourant.local
>
> mourant.local
>
> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
>
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : HP NC373i Multifunction Gigabit
> Server Adapter
>
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-24-81-89-98-3A
>
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
>
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.41.8.82
>
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.41.8.254
>
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.41.4.1
>
> 10.55.1.1
>
> 10.41.4.2
>
> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 10.41.4.1
>
> Secondary WINS Server . . . . . . : 10.55.1.1
>
> I've jusy changed the dns servers to that of a different domain and
> tried to join that domain, but get the same error, so it looks more
> like a server problem than domain.
>
> Cheers, Dylan.
>
> "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote:
>
>> Hello Dylan,
>>
>> Please post an unedited ipconfig /all from the 2003 and the DNS
>> servers, so we can check the settings. Are firewalls in use on the
>> machines?
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers
>> no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>> Good morning. I'm having a problem joining a windows 2003 member
>>> server to a 2008 domain. The forest level and domain level are 2008,
>>> DNS is installed on 2 root dc's, but wins isn't installed. When i
>>> try to join the 2003 server to the domain using the FQDN
>>> global.ifsmifa.com, I'm prompted for the password, but then recieve
>>> the network path was not found. The dns servers are configured
>>> correctly and if I nslookup global, the name server is returned
>>> correctly and the 2 domain controller ips. I've had no problem
>>> joining other 2008 servers to the domain.
>>>
>> .
>>

Thank Andrei I'll look in to it. Both are DNS servers are in the root domain
ifsmifa.com, mourant.local is a domain that we will be migrating users from
as we are going through a split.

Cheers, Dylan.

"Andrei Ungureanu" wrote:

> Hello Dylan,
>
> Something looks strange in your config. What's with all those dns suffixes?
> I am guessing that the DNS server that you point to is a DC in a parent
> domain (ifsmifa.com). Why don't you interrogate directly a DNS/DC from the
> global.ifsmifa.com domain?
> The file netsetup.log file located here %SystemRoot%\debug\netsetup.log can
> provide some additional information about the domain join issue.
>
> Andrei,
> www.winadmins.net
>
> "Dylan" <Dylan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:AE2E3557-DEAA-4FC1-88A8-279019A00CC7@microsoft.com...
> >
> > Hi Meinolf, here is the info for the DNS server:
> >
> > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : ifsmifadc01
> > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : ifsmifa.com
> > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
> > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : ifsmifa.com
> > global.ifsmifa.com
> > mourant.local
> > jersey.mourant.local
> >
> > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 3:
> >
> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : HP Network Team #1
> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-22-64-9A-A5-34
> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> > IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 10.41.4.1(Preferred)
> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.41.4.254
> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.55.1.1
> > 127.0.0.1
> > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
> >
> > and here is the info for the 2003 server:
> >
> > Windows IP Configuration
> >
> >
> >
> > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : JSYUNITY01
> >
> > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
> >
> > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
> >
> > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> >
> > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> >
> > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : global.ifsmifa.com
> >
> > ifsmifa.com
> >
> > jersey.mourant.local
> >
> > mourant.local
> >
> >
> >
> > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
> >
> >
> >
> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> >
> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : HP NC373i Multifunction Gigabit
> > Server Adapter
> >
> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-24-81-89-98-3A
> >
> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> >
> > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.41.8.82
> >
> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> >
> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.41.8.254
> >
> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.41.4.1
> >
> > 10.55.1.1
> >
> > 10.41.4.2
> >
> > Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 10.41.4.1
> >
> > Secondary WINS Server . . . . . . : 10.55.1.1
> >
> > I've jusy changed the dns servers to that of a different domain and tried
> > to
> > join that domain, but get the same error, so it looks more like a server
> > problem than domain.
> >
> > Cheers, Dylan.
> > "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote:
> >
> >> Hello Dylan,
> >>
> >> Please post an unedited ipconfig /all from the 2003 and the DNS servers,
> >> so we can check the settings. Are firewalls in use on the machines?
> >>
> >> Best regards
> >>
> >> Meinolf Weber
> >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> >> confers
> >> no rights.
> >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
> >>
> >>
> >> > Good morning. I'm having a problem joining a windows 2003 member
> >> > server to a 2008 domain. The forest level and domain level are 2008,
> >> > DNS is installed on 2 root dc's, but wins isn't installed. When i try
> >> > to join the 2003 server to the domain using the FQDN
> >> > global.ifsmifa.com, I'm prompted for the password, but then recieve
> >> > the network path was not found. The dns servers are configured
> >> > correctly and if I nslookup global, the name server is returned
> >> > correctly and the 2 domain controller ips. I've had no problem joining
> >> > other 2008 servers to the domain.
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> .
> >>
> .
>

Odd, I've managed to get the machine to join the domain by adding the wins
servers for the mourant domain to the machine. Any thoughts why that would be?

"Dylan" wrote:

> Thank Andrei I'll look in to it. Both are DNS servers are in the root domain
> ifsmifa.com, mourant.local is a domain that we will be migrating users from
> as we are going through a split.
>
> Cheers, Dylan.
>
> "Andrei Ungureanu" wrote:
>
> > Hello Dylan,
> >
> > Something looks strange in your config. What's with all those dns suffixes?
> > I am guessing that the DNS server that you point to is a DC in a parent
> > domain (ifsmifa.com). Why don't you interrogate directly a DNS/DC from the
> > global.ifsmifa.com domain?
> > The file netsetup.log file located here %SystemRoot%\debug\netsetup.log can
> > provide some additional information about the domain join issue.
> >
> > Andrei,
> > www.winadmins.net
> >
> > "Dylan" <Dylan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:AE2E3557-DEAA-4FC1-88A8-279019A00CC7@microsoft.com...
> > >
> > > Hi Meinolf, here is the info for the DNS server:
> > >
> > > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : ifsmifadc01
> > > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : ifsmifa.com
> > > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
> > > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> > > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> > > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : ifsmifa.com
> > > global.ifsmifa.com
> > > mourant.local
> > > jersey.mourant.local
> > >
> > > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 3:
> > >
> > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> > > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : HP Network Team #1
> > > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-22-64-9A-A5-34
> > > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> > > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> > > IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 10.41.4.1(Preferred)
> > > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> > > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.41.4.254
> > > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.55.1.1
> > > 127.0.0.1
> > > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
> > >
> > > and here is the info for the 2003 server:
> > >
> > > Windows IP Configuration
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : JSYUNITY01
> > >
> > > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
> > >
> > > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
> > >
> > > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> > >
> > > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> > >
> > > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : global.ifsmifa.com
> > >
> > > ifsmifa.com
> > >
> > > jersey.mourant.local
> > >
> > > mourant.local
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> > >
> > > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : HP NC373i Multifunction Gigabit
> > > Server Adapter
> > >
> > > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-24-81-89-98-3A
> > >
> > > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> > >
> > > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.41.8.82
> > >
> > > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> > >
> > > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.41.8.254
> > >
> > > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.41.4.1
> > >
> > > 10.55.1.1
> > >
> > > 10.41.4.2
> > >
> > > Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 10.41.4.1
> > >
> > > Secondary WINS Server . . . . . . : 10.55.1.1
> > >
> > > I've jusy changed the dns servers to that of a different domain and tried
> > > to
> > > join that domain, but get the same error, so it looks more like a server
> > > problem than domain.
> > >
> > > Cheers, Dylan.
> > > "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hello Dylan,
> > >>
> > >> Please post an unedited ipconfig /all from the 2003 and the DNS servers,
> > >> so we can check the settings. Are firewalls in use on the machines?
> > >>
> > >> Best regards
> > >>
> > >> Meinolf Weber
> > >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> > >> confers
> > >> no rights.
> > >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> > >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Good morning. I'm having a problem joining a windows 2003 member
> > >> > server to a 2008 domain. The forest level and domain level are 2008,
> > >> > DNS is installed on 2 root dc's, but wins isn't installed. When i try
> > >> > to join the 2003 server to the domain using the FQDN
> > >> > global.ifsmifa.com, I'm prompted for the password, but then recieve
> > >> > the network path was not found. The dns servers are configured
> > >> > correctly and if I nslookup global, the name server is returned
> > >> > correctly and the 2 domain controller ips. I've had no problem joining
> > >> > other 2008 servers to the domain.
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> .
> > >>
> > .
> >

When you say you have split. How did you build your two forests? Just want
to verify that you didn't just take a dc from one and start a new forest
with it.

--
Paul Bergson
MVP - Directory Services
MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4
Microsoft's Thrive IT Pro of the Month - June 2009

http://www.pbbergs.com

Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup This
posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

"Dylan" <Dylan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:DD19E2C6-B7D9-4AD7-9305-7D5F8FD068A9@microsoft.com...
> Thank Andrei I'll look in to it. Both are DNS servers are in the root
> domain
> ifsmifa.com, mourant.local is a domain that we will be migrating users
> from
> as we are going through a split.
>
> Cheers, Dylan.
>
> "Andrei Ungureanu" wrote:
>
>> Hello Dylan,
>>
>> Something looks strange in your config. What's with all those dns
>> suffixes?
>> I am guessing that the DNS server that you point to is a DC in a parent
>> domain (ifsmifa.com). Why don't you interrogate directly a DNS/DC from
>> the
>> global.ifsmifa.com domain?
>> The file netsetup.log file located here %SystemRoot%\debug\netsetup.log
>> can
>> provide some additional information about the domain join issue.
>>
>> Andrei,
>> www.winadmins.net
>>
>> "Dylan" <Dylan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:AE2E3557-DEAA-4FC1-88A8-279019A00CC7@microsoft.com...
>> >
>> > Hi Meinolf, here is the info for the DNS server:
>> >
>> > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : ifsmifadc01
>> > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : ifsmifa.com
>> > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
>> > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : ifsmifa.com
>> > global.ifsmifa.com
>> > mourant.local
>> > jersey.mourant.local
>> >
>> > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 3:
>> >
>> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
>> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : HP Network Team #1
>> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-22-64-9A-A5-34
>> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
>> > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>> > IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 10.41.4.1(Preferred)
>> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.41.4.254
>> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.55.1.1
>> > 127.0.0.1
>> > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
>> >
>> > and here is the info for the 2003 server:
>> >
>> > Windows IP Configuration
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : JSYUNITY01
>> >
>> > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
>> >
>> > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
>> >
>> > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> >
>> > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> >
>> > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : global.ifsmifa.com
>> >
>> > ifsmifa.com
>> >
>> > jersey.mourant.local
>> >
>> > mourant.local
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
>> >
>> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : HP NC373i Multifunction Gigabit
>> > Server Adapter
>> >
>> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-24-81-89-98-3A
>> >
>> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
>> >
>> > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.41.8.82
>> >
>> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>> >
>> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.41.8.254
>> >
>> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.41.4.1
>> >
>> > 10.55.1.1
>> >
>> > 10.41.4.2
>> >
>> > Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 10.41.4.1
>> >
>> > Secondary WINS Server . . . . . . : 10.55.1.1
>> >
>> > I've jusy changed the dns servers to that of a different domain and
>> > tried
>> > to
>> > join that domain, but get the same error, so it looks more like a
>> > server
>> > problem than domain.
>> >
>> > Cheers, Dylan.
>> > "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hello Dylan,
>> >>
>> >> Please post an unedited ipconfig /all from the 2003 and the DNS
>> >> servers,
>> >> so we can check the settings. Are firewalls in use on the machines?
>> >>
>> >> Best regards
>> >>
>> >> Meinolf Weber
>> >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> >> confers
>> >> no rights.
>> >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Good morning. I'm having a problem joining a windows 2003 member
>> >> > server to a 2008 domain. The forest level and domain level are 2008,
>> >> > DNS is installed on 2 root dc's, but wins isn't installed. When i
>> >> > try
>> >> > to join the 2003 server to the domain using the FQDN
>> >> > global.ifsmifa.com, I'm prompted for the password, but then recieve
>> >> > the network path was not found. The dns servers are configured
>> >> > correctly and if I nslookup global, the name server is returned
>> >> > correctly and the 2 domain controller ips. I've had no problem
>> >> > joining
>> >> > other 2008 servers to the domain.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> .
>> >>
>> .
>>

It's more than clear that you have a name resolution issue. Usually in an AD
environment clients are querying a DNS/DC from the same domain (not
mandatory but common).
Put it on paper and make an workflow on how the clients resolve names from
different domains. WINS is only a temporary fix.

Andrei
www.winadmins.net


"Dylan" <Dylan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:FB477C32-D657-4549-83B0-6547AE5F46E4@microsoft.com...
> Odd, I've managed to get the machine to join the domain by adding the wins
> servers for the mourant domain to the machine. Any thoughts why that would
> be?
>
> "Dylan" wrote:
>
>> Thank Andrei I'll look in to it. Both are DNS servers are in the root
>> domain
>> ifsmifa.com, mourant.local is a domain that we will be migrating users
>> from
>> as we are going through a split.
>>
>> Cheers, Dylan.
>>
>> "Andrei Ungureanu" wrote:
>>
>> > Hello Dylan,
>> >
>> > Something looks strange in your config. What's with all those dns
>> > suffixes?
>> > I am guessing that the DNS server that you point to is a DC in a parent
>> > domain (ifsmifa.com). Why don't you interrogate directly a DNS/DC from
>> > the
>> > global.ifsmifa.com domain?
>> > The file netsetup.log file located here %SystemRoot%\debug\netsetup.log
>> > can
>> > provide some additional information about the domain join issue.
>> >
>> > Andrei,
>> > www.winadmins.net
>> >
>> > "Dylan" <Dylan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > news:AE2E3557-DEAA-4FC1-88A8-279019A00CC7@microsoft.com...
>> > >
>> > > Hi Meinolf, here is the info for the DNS server:
>> > >
>> > > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : ifsmifadc01
>> > > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : ifsmifa.com
>> > > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
>> > > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> > > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> > > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : ifsmifa.com
>> > > global.ifsmifa.com
>> > > mourant.local
>> > > jersey.mourant.local
>> > >
>> > > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 3:
>> > >
>> > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
>> > > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : HP Network Team #1
>> > > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-22-64-9A-A5-34
>> > > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
>> > > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>> > > IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 10.41.4.1(Preferred)
>> > > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>> > > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.41.4.254
>> > > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.55.1.1
>> > > 127.0.0.1
>> > > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
>> > >
>> > > and here is the info for the 2003 server:
>> > >
>> > > Windows IP Configuration
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : JSYUNITY01
>> > >
>> > > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
>> > >
>> > > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
>> > >
>> > > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> > >
>> > > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> > >
>> > > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : global.ifsmifa.com
>> > >
>> > > ifsmifa.com
>> > >
>> > > jersey.mourant.local
>> > >
>> > > mourant.local
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
>> > >
>> > > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : HP NC373i Multifunction Gigabit
>> > > Server Adapter
>> > >
>> > > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-24-81-89-98-3A
>> > >
>> > > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
>> > >
>> > > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.41.8.82
>> > >
>> > > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>> > >
>> > > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.41.8.254
>> > >
>> > > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.41.4.1
>> > >
>> > > 10.55.1.1
>> > >
>> > > 10.41.4.2
>> > >
>> > > Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 10.41.4.1
>> > >
>> > > Secondary WINS Server . . . . . . : 10.55.1.1
>> > >
>> > > I've jusy changed the dns servers to that of a different domain and
>> > > tried
>> > > to
>> > > join that domain, but get the same error, so it looks more like a
>> > > server
>> > > problem than domain.
>> > >
>> > > Cheers, Dylan.
>> > > "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Hello Dylan,
>> > >>
>> > >> Please post an unedited ipconfig /all from the 2003 and the DNS
>> > >> servers,
>> > >> so we can check the settings. Are firewalls in use on the machines?
>> > >>
>> > >> Best regards
>> > >>
>> > >> Meinolf Weber
>> > >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> > >> confers
>> > >> no rights.
>> > >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> > >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> > Good morning. I'm having a problem joining a windows 2003 member
>> > >> > server to a 2008 domain. The forest level and domain level are
>> > >> > 2008,
>> > >> > DNS is installed on 2 root dc's, but wins isn't installed. When i
>> > >> > try
>> > >> > to join the 2003 server to the domain using the FQDN
>> > >> > global.ifsmifa.com, I'm prompted for the password, but then
>> > >> > recieve
>> > >> > the network path was not found. The dns servers are configured
>> > >> > correctly and if I nslookup global, the name server is returned
>> > >> > correctly and the 2 domain controller ips. I've had no problem
>> > >> > joining
>> > >> > other 2008 servers to the domain.
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> .
>> > >>
>> > .
>> >

"Andrei Ungureanu" <someone@mydomain.com> wrote in message
news:%23JDZTnBpKHA.1544@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> It's more than clear that you have a name resolution issue. Usually in an
> AD environment clients are querying a DNS/DC from the same domain (not
> mandatory but common).
> Put it on paper and make an workflow on how the clients resolve names from
> different domains. WINS is only a temporary fix.
>
> Andrei
> www.winadmins.net
>


I agree there is a name resolution issue. Without knowing more about the
infrastructure and if AD has child domains, it will be difficult to
diagnose.

From the looks of it, it appears there are child domains. What I can suggest
for the poster if there are child domains, the simplest way around this, of
course depending if all DCs are Windows 2003 and newer, is to simply make
the forest domain zone's replication scope to be forest-wide, so the forest
zone and all the child zone will show up under it.

If the child zones need to exist only on the child domain DCs, then I
suggest a delegation. Delegate the child zone from the parent zone to the
child domain's DC/DNS servers, and set a forwarder back to the parent DC/DNS
server. No need for all the suffixes.

Here are some of my notes on it. I haven't blogged this yet, since it isn't
complete and need to proof it for syntax, but for the most part, it is
sufficient. I hope it helps.

===================================
How to delegate a child domain from the parent

When creating a child domain, you have two DNS design choices regarding
which DNS servers you want to use for the new child domain.

By default, the parent.com zone's Replication scope is set to Domain DNS
Servers. This means it is only available to the parent.com's DC/DNS servers,
and not to any of the child domain's DC/DNS servers. So if you were to set
the child domain DCs to use themselves as DNS, they will not find their own
zone.

To overcome that, you have two parent-child design choices:

1. If you want to use themselves for DNS in the parent and child domains,
and to simplify it, you can change the parent.com zone's

Replication scope to Forest DNS Servers. This way the zone will be available
to all DC/DNS servers in the whole forest. The following link shows how to
check and/or change replication scopes, that is if this is the desired
design based on your company's requirements.

How to change replication scopes:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc784148.aspx

2. If you want the child domain's admins to have control of their own
resources, including DNS for their own domain, you can delegate the child
zone to the child domain's DC/DNS servers. To do this, you would first
create a child zone under the child zone's DC/DNS servers called
child.parent.com. Then in the parent domain's DNS server, right click
parent.com, choose New Delegation, type in 'child' (without the quotes), and
provide the child domain's DC/DNS servers names and IP addresses. Do not
change the parent zone's Replication scope. Then in the child domain's
DC/DNS servers, configure a forwarder to the parent domain's DC/DNS servers.
The following link has info for you to read up on concerning these steps.

How To Create a Child Domain in Active Directory and Delegate the DNS
Namespace to the Child Domain:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/255248


More specific information regarding how to configure Child domain delegation
and DNS configuration:

Assuming you have the parent AD domain (the forest root) and zone already
created and functional, and you've already ran dcpromo on a machine to make
it a child domain DC. When you run dcpromo, you want it to use the forest
root domain's DNS server to simplify things so it will register into a
subfolder (the child zone) under the parent zone.

Make sure the parent DCs are only using their own DNS servers in their IP
properties. If they show the local loopback, 127.0.0.1, which is what
dcpromo puts in there, change it to the actual IP addresses. Do the same
with the child DCs for now, meaning they are using the forest root domain
DCs for DNS for the time being.

Make sure the replication scope on the parent domain's zone, we'll call
domain.com, is set to Domain wide (the middle button). This puts it in the
DomainDnsZones application partition for the parent domain. If set to Forest
wide (the top button), it will cause a major issue with delegation. This is
because of the delegation design. You don't want the zone forest wide in a
parent-child delegation.

Create a zone on the child domain DC, which we'll call, child.domain.com, on
the child. The replication scope should be set the same to it's own domain's
DomainDnsZones app partition.

Create a reverse zones on the parent for each subnet in the parent domain's
location, and set the replication scope to DomainWide (the middle button).
DO NOT create a delegation for this zone.

Create a reverse zone on the parent for the child domain's location, and set
the replication scope to DomainWide (the middle button).

Create a delegation for this zone to the child.

Make sure the zones all allow updates.

Follow the steps in the following article to create the delegation:
How To Create a Child Domain in Active Directory and Delegate the DNS
Namespace to the Child Domain:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/255248


Make sure you configure a forwarder from the child DNS servers to the parent
DNS, and then from the parent to your ISP's DNS.

Change the DNS IPs on the child DCs to use their own DC's as their DNS
servers.

Since there is more than one domain, it is HIGHLY recommended to have a
minimum two DCs in for each domain. The reason is twofold, one because of
redundancy, the other is because of the IM role conflict on a GC in a
multidomain forest. If you are going to have a GC at the child domain,
especially if it is in a remote location, just keep in mind of this required
rule. On one of the DCs in each domain you will make one of the DCs a GC,
and move the Infrastructure Master role from the GC to the non-GC. This is
functional basics of domain design and FSMO role placement and the way this
specific role works, or rather doesn't work it is a GC.
===================================

--
Ace

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Ace Fekay, MVP, MCT, MCITP EA, MCTS Windows 2008 & Exchange 2007, MCSE &
MCSA 2003/2000, MCSA Messaging 2003
Microsoft Certified Trainer
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services

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