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| Can't Update/Change EMail address on EMail Tab
Folks.....I cannot change e-mail addresses on the e-mail tab in our Active Directory. History: We were running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2000 when we had a significant failure and for various reasons did not repair or reinstall Exchange 2000 for several months. Our users used another e-mail service/ISP during this period. Those users had e-mail addresses of the form xxx.yyy@ISPxxx.Net in the Active Directory. Note our Active Directory Domain is USqqq.Com. Now that Exchange is back up and running, only my id with a USqqq.Com e-mail address and one new user's id can be "Changed or Editted" on the E-Mail tab in the Active Directory. What's going on and how can I fix it? Thanks.....RDK |
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| Re: Can't Update/Change EMail address on EMail Tab
What's in your recipient policy? |
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The "recipient policy" is "default" and contains the following entries: MS (Unchecked) USqqqExc/FirstAdmin SMTP (Checked) @Postoffice.ISPxxx.Net SMTP (Checked and Bold) @OurLocn.USqqq.Com X400 (Checked and bold) c=US; a= ;p=USqqq Exchange;o=Exchange; Does this help in answering my question? |
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Yes, although I suspect one of those SMTP policies has "smtp" (lower case) as the uppercase one is the default. Change SMTP @postoffice.ispxxx.net to @mydomain.com and it should update all your recipients accordingly (make sure it's the default!). You could also rerun the CEICW to accomplish this. I hope you aren't using the dreaded POOP connector Oh, isn't that's the new Post Office Object Protocol connector, or the Pooled Out of Process connector? |
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Thanks for the update. Excuse me if I'm a bit dense, but isn't that what the other SMTP statemernt is doing? OurLocn.USqqq.Com is our AD Domain, we actually only have one site right now but we set it up that way for future expansion. Are you sugesting that that SMTP statement should be just USqqq.Com? Or are both required? And, you are correct, the @Postoffice.ISPxxx.Net SMTP statement is not capped and is not the default. |
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Normally in many cases, you will see two address suffixes, the domain's default suffix, and the suffix the server is authorized to receive mail on. If the other suffix you are referring to, @Postoffice.ISPxxx.Net, the suffix that your server is authorized to receive mail on (MX record points to your machine), then yes, it should have both in the list. The @Postoffice.ISPxxx.Net should be the default (bold) suffix. |
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....A follow-up question to my first reply to your note, Is there a proper procedure to follow after making any of these changes to the policy to insure that they are propagated quickly through the Active Directory? Thanks again |
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You've got one server. It won't take long for the RUS to do its thing. You could manually run it or you could reboot the server or stop/start the Exchange services if you wanted to hurry it along. Re your subdomain - didn't see that. You should just pick the address format you wish to be the default and whatever works with your public DNS. If you've got MX records set up for OurLocn.USqqq.Com well and good - what about USqqq.Com? |
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Folks...We have tried all of the items in the responses to this note (thanks for your efforts) without effect , we still can not edit the entries in the "E-mail Address" tab of the Active Directory!! In frustration I brought up the properties tables for my "power" id (which will allow editing) and my "normal" id (which will not allow editing). I went through the tabs one-by-one and low and behold when I got to the "Exchange General" tab I detected a difference which we had not noticed before!!! My "power" id has the MAILBOX STORE value as "ServerX/First Storage Group/Mailbox Store(ServerX)" while my other id has HOME SERVER as "USqqq/First Administrative Group/ServerX". Thus I can only assume there is something left over somewhere from the old Exchange 2000 installation. I Google'ed "Exchange 2000 First Administrative Group" and got a MS KB article 307917 which talked about how to remove the "First Exchange Server...". That server died several years ago. It was replaced by the version that crashed earlier this year (not having good luck with servers) and now has been replaced by this server/installation. Can you help????? Thanks again for your previous help and hope this will provide the necessary clues to solve this issue |
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It appears you have more going on than meets the eye. Was the lost Exchagne server the first Exchange server introduced into the domain? If you lost the very first Exchagne server that was in the organization without moving the System and Hidden folders, there are some repercussions, sucha s with the RUS, OAB and losing Free/Busy info. If your users don't use Meeting Requests, you may not have noticed the last one. If the tabs show inconsistency, it could also indicate an AD issue. As for removing the first Exchange server in the org, read the following. How to remove the first Exchange Server 2003 computer from the organization This article describes the steps to remove the first Microsoft Exchange Server 2003 computer from an administrative group. The first Exchange Server 2003 ... http://support.microsoft.com/kb/822931 XADM: How to Remove the First Exchange Server in a Site This article outlines the steps necessary to remove the first Microsoft Exchange Server computer installed in an Exchange Server site. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/152959 Here's what can happen if the first server is lost without replicating the System and Hidden folders, such as with the Free/Busy folder. Schedule+ Free/Busy system folder is missingWhen you migrate the first Microsoft Exchange Server 5.5 computer in the site to Microsoft Exchange 2000 Server or to Microsoft Exchange Server 2003, ... http://support.microsoft.com/kb/284200 How to reset system folders in Exchange Server 2003 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/822444/en-us Also, please post an ipconfig /all from your DC, Exchange server and a sample workstation to help us evaluate your AD configuration to eliminate some basic issues. Also if there are more than one DC, indicate if any of them are multihomed (more than one NIC, more than one IP or has RRAS installed). Additionally, I suggest posting a brand-new, up to date post in microsoft.public.exchange.admin. That gets the most traffic of all the Exchange groups on the MS news servers. Recap what happened, briefly, and make sure to include all pertinent versions & SP levels. |
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Thanks for your comments and help so far. We are discussing your information requests to try and determine if there are security or privacy issues with posting that on a public forum site. I'll get back to you when we have this sorted out locally. |
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Just an FYI, many folks post their ipconfigs. You can munge the Primary DNS Suffix and other suffixes, to hide the internal name, however just keep them in the same "form" such as if it is somedomain.local, you can chagne it to 'mydomain.local.' However, keep the IP, subnet and other info intact, because I assume you are using private IP ranges. If you try to munge them, more than likely there will be an error which just generates more questions regarding the configs, which delays assistance. If you are concerned with security and cannot post the info, it may be to your advantage to contact Microsoft PSS directly. Check http://support.microsoft.com for regional phone numbers. They will fix it fast, for a low price. If you have an SA, you are entitled to a number of support calls as part of your agreement. If this issue you are experiencing is causing issues with productivity, then that will be your best course of action to eliminate any further delays in resolving it. |
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Hi folks, back after a holiday break. As you requested I have summarized the problem in this note and will also post it later to the other forums that you suggested (after I re-read it, etc)..... Now to your last reply: "It appears you have more going on than meets the eye. Was the lost Exchange server the first Exchange server introduced into the domain?" The history of this/these Exchange servers is: 1) the original Exchange 2000 server (Coachman) was installed in 2002 and ran fine until we thought there were signs of hard disk problems in 2005. 2) we got a new server in 2005 with RAID hard drive technology and installed Windows 2000 server and Exchange 2000 (Cricket). Got everything running and then decommissioned the original Exchange 2000 server(Coachman). As we recall we did follow the process for removing the original server files and entries. Everything worked fine and all users were happy until... 3) in late 2008 we had a hard disk problem and lost everything (yes, even with RAID). At that point we abandoned Exchange and our users used another e-mail service/ISP during this period. Those users had e-mail addresses of the form xxx.yyy@ISPxxx.Net in the Active Directory. Note our Active Directory Domain is "USqqq.Cal" and this location is "OurLocn.USqqq.Cal" 4) Summer 2009 we corrected the hardware issues with the sever and rebuilt it with Window 2000 server and Exchange 2000, using the same name(Cricket) as the second Exchange server which failed 6 months earlier. The server entries were removed from the Active Directory before we rebuilt the machine. 5) The installation seemed to go fine and all seemed to be working, but we did not put it into production right away due to other priorities. In October we started trying to get folks back onto Exchange and discovered that only my ID and any new user ID's seemed to be recognized by Exchange and the E-Mail tab in the Active Directory for old users would not allow one to remove or edit the e-mail addresses. Since then, thanks to you folks, we have investigated several possibilities: A) The "Recipient Policy": The "recipient policy" is "default" and contains the following entries: MS (Unchecked) USqqqExc/FirstAdmin smtp (Checked) @Postoffice.ISPxxx.Net SMTP (Checked and Bold) @OurLocn.USqqq.Cal X400 (Checked and bold) c=US; a= ;p=USqqq Exchange;o=Exchange; Several modifications of this policy did not change the problem with old users in the Active Directory. The current policy read like this: The "recipient policy" is "default" and contains the following entries: MS (Unchecked) USqqqExc/FirstAdmin SMTP (Checked and Bold) @ISPxxx.Net smtp (UnChecked) @OurLocn.USqqq.Cal X400 (Checked and bold) c=US; a= ;p=USqqq Exchange;o=Exchange; In frustration I brought up the Active Directory properties tables for my "power" id (which will allow editing) and my "normal" id (which will not allow editing). I went through the tabs one-by-one and low and behold when I got to the "Exchange General" tab I detected a difference which we had not noticed before!!! My "power" id has the MAILBOX STORE value as "Cricket/First Storage Group/Mailbox Store(Cricket)" while my other id has HOME SERVER as "USqqq/First Administrative Group/Cricket". Thus I can only assume there is something left over somewhere from the old Exchange 2000 installation. I Google'ed "Exchange 2000 First Administrative Group" and got a MS KB article 307917 which talked about how to remove the "First Exchange Server...". That server died several years ago. It was replaced by the version that crashed in 2008 (not having good luck with servers) and now has been replaced by this server/installation. B) "Also, please post an ipconfig /all from your DC, Exchange server and a sample workstation to help us evaluate your AD configuration to eliminate some basic issues. Also if there are more than one DC, indicate if any of them are multihomed (more than one NIC, more than one IP or has RRAS installed)." In response to your request for IPCONFIGs for the Domain Controller (GrizzlyKing), the Exchange server (Cricket) and a typical Workstation (Mosquito) I have attached a txt file. We have two Domain Controllers which are both configured the same (see GrizzlyKing data in the text file); Both are multihomed (two NICs) for the internal network (Sprint) and the SonicWALL VPN network which gives us access from off site. Forgot attachment..... Thanks for your very details analysis of our situation. We are digesting your comments and will get back to the Forum with results and/or more questions... |
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| Re: Can't Update/Change EMail address on EMail Tab
First, Happy New Year to you, too! :-) As for the issues, there are numerous things wrong. First, apparently the first Exchange server was not removed properly, hence it's reference to it in Active Directory. Keep in mind, when Exchange is installed, it adds approximately 1200-1300 objects (depending on Exchange version) into AD, most of which are in the Configuration Container. Whenever you open the Exchange mamgement Console, it doesn;t communicate with Exchange, rather it communicates with AD to present all the data in the console. So if there are AD issues, the console will either not open or not correctly display all config info. You can use ADSI Edit to view these objects, however be careful with ADSI Edit. It is an AD editor similar to Windows registry editor. Any changes made are not reversible without restoring a System State backup. So make sure you have a good backup before messing wtih it. Continuing on, to remove the first Exchange server in an Exchange organization involves moving all mailboxes, Public Folders and Hidden System Folders, (basically rehoming these folders), moving the OAB, RUS, etc, to another Exchagne server in the org. I'm not sure if this was done, but from what you mentioned, it may not have been. The article you used should have been sufficient, and the following article for Ex2003 will also work. How to remove the first Exchange Server 2003 computer from the administrative group http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=822931 Apparently something was missed while removing the first server. As for the multihomed DCs, this is hugely problematic and can/WILL be contributing to the issues you are seeing. Remember I mentioned Exchange stores it's config data in AD? Well, it needs access to be able to "find" AD properly. However due to the multihoming, and using the wrong DNS addresses, based on your ipconfigs, this will surely contribute to the problem. You also have multiple gateways on the multihomed DCs. This is problematic as well, whether a DC or not a DC with multiple NICs.This will cause internal routing issues with the machine. This is due to the way AD stores it's data in DNS. If you are specifying an ISP's DNS addresss (as your ipconfigs show), it cannot register that data in the ISP's DNS servers. Also, when the workstations look for a DC to logon or authenticate against, it is asking the ISP's DNS servers, 'where is my domain controller for my domain?" Unfortunately, the ISP's DNS servers do not have that answer, which will cause issues with your user base. Recommendations for the DCs: Remove the additonal NICs. Remove the ISP's DNS addresses. Workstations: Remove the ISPs DNS addresses from the DHCP scope (option 006) Use a firewall/router in place of the DCs to configure a connection between your subnet and the edge router. If you can't and need a Windows machine (for wahtever reason), use a non-DC for this function. Please read my blog in the following link to explain what multihoming a DC does to DNS registration (which is required by AD), why it does it, it's implications, and how to resolve it, that isif you feel that you absolutlely positively need to keep the DC multihomed, but be forewarned it requires multiple alterations including registry changes. In my opinion, I would rather see your disable the external NICs, remove the ISP DNS address, coinfigure a Forwarder on each DNS to the ISP, etc, instead of making all of these changes to alter a DC's dedfault functionality to work in your scenario. Multihomed DCs with DNS, RRAS, multiple IPs, and/or PPPoE adapters http://msmvps.com/blogs/acefekay/arc...-adapters.aspx Let's straighten out AD first before going further into the Exchange issues. This is important for AD and for Exchange. |
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I figured it was quite a bit of information to digest. Work through it slowly in order to understand everything I mentioned. Do post back if you have any questions. |
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