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Second DHCP server seems to be ignoring requests

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Old 29-10-2009
tdnnash25
 
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Second DHCP server seems to be ignoring requests

I have a Domain Controller that is doing DHCP but we are going to be
taking it down. Thus, I am tasked with getting DHCP, DNS, etc
configured on Server2.

Server 2 is a domain controller. I used netsh to export the DHCP
database from Server1 and likewise used it to import the database on
Server2. I then authorized Server2 as a DHCP server.

The problem is when I stop the DHCP service on Server1 and attempt to
get a DHCP address on a client PC, I don't get one. As soon as I
restart the DHCP service on Server 1, I do. I ran Wireshark on
Server2 and it sees the DHCP broadcasts coming in, but nothing
happens.

Can anyone share some suggestions?
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Old 29-10-2009
kj [SBS MVP]
 
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Re: Second DHCP server seems to be ignoring requests

Not really DS related, but did you also activate the new scope?

tdnnash25 wrote:
> I have a Domain Controller that is doing DHCP but we are going to be
> taking it down. Thus, I am tasked with getting DHCP, DNS, etc
> configured on Server2.
>
> Server 2 is a domain controller. I used netsh to export the DHCP
> database from Server1 and likewise used it to import the database on
> Server2. I then authorized Server2 as a DHCP server.
>
> The problem is when I stop the DHCP service on Server1 and attempt to
> get a DHCP address on a client PC, I don't get one. As soon as I
> restart the DHCP service on Server 1, I do. I ran Wireshark on
> Server2 and it sees the DHCP broadcasts coming in, but nothing
> happens.
>
> Can anyone share some suggestions?


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/kj


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Old 29-10-2009
tdnnash25
 
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Re: Second DHCP server seems to be ignoring requests

I didn't manually activate them, but they are activated. Somehow the
import using netsh must have done that. Anyhow, if you right click on
the scopes you only have the option to Deactivate.
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  #4  
Old 29-10-2009
Marcin
 
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Re: Second DHCP server seems to be ignoring requests

Check the server bindings - make sure they point to the correct network
connection/IP address...

hth
Marcin

"tdnnash25" <tdnnash25@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:b2005a45-1766-4535-914e-df2cf8afaf00@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
>I didn't manually activate them, but they are activated. Somehow the
> import using netsh must have done that. Anyhow, if you right click on
> the scopes you only have the option to Deactivate.



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Old 29-10-2009
southpaw
 
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Re: Second DHCP server seems to be ignoring requests

Verify the old dhcp is unauthorized and the new dhcp is authorized...


"Marcin" <marcin@community.nospam> wrote in message
news:e#4NoFCWKHA.4416@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Check the server bindings - make sure they point to the correct network
> connection/IP address...
>
> hth
> Marcin
>
> "tdnnash25" <tdnnash25@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:b2005a45-1766-4535-914e-df2cf8afaf00@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
>>I didn't manually activate them, but they are activated. Somehow the
>> import using netsh must have done that. Anyhow, if you right click on
>> the scopes you only have the option to Deactivate.

>
>

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  #6  
Old 29-10-2009
Ace Fekay [MCT]
 
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Re: Second DHCP server seems to be ignoring requests

"tdnnash25" <tdnnash25@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:37731dcb-32a4-4277-987e-19f6d2205a20@t2g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>I have a Domain Controller that is doing DHCP but we are going to be
> taking it down. Thus, I am tasked with getting DHCP, DNS, etc
> configured on Server2.
>
> Server 2 is a domain controller. I used netsh to export the DHCP
> database from Server1 and likewise used it to import the database on
> Server2. I then authorized Server2 as a DHCP server.
>
> The problem is when I stop the DHCP service on Server1 and attempt to
> get a DHCP address on a client PC, I don't get one. As soon as I
> restart the DHCP service on Server 1, I do. I ran Wireshark on
> Server2 and it sees the DHCP broadcasts coming in, but nothing
> happens.
>
> Can anyone share some suggestions?



You also posted this question in the General newsgroup. In the future, it is
to YOUR advantage to cross-post to multiple newsgroups, not multi-post.
Cross-posting allows responders from both groups to collaborate to better
help you, and all responses go to both groups, which you will only have to
check one of the groups for all responses.

Ace


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  #7  
Old 29-10-2009
tdnnash25
 
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Re: Second DHCP server seems to be ignoring requests

Bindings are good

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  #8  
Old 29-10-2009
tdnnash25
 
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Re: Second DHCP server seems to be ignoring requests

I wondered if the old had to be unauthorized or not, but never
unauthorized it. So, it really has to be unauthorized before the new
one, which is already authorized, to work?

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  #9  
Old 29-10-2009
Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]
 
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Re: Second DHCP server seems to be ignoring requests

Hello tdnnash25,

Make sure the new DHCP server is authorized in AD. In the DHCP management
console rightclick DHCP, choose "Manage authorized servers" and see if the
new one is listed.

Which OS version are you talking about?

Any firewall running on the new server?

You can run multiple DHCP servers without any problem. Just make sure they
don't offer the same range of the scope to the clients.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> I have a Domain Controller that is doing DHCP but we are going to be
> taking it down. Thus, I am tasked with getting DHCP, DNS, etc
> configured on Server2.
>
> Server 2 is a domain controller. I used netsh to export the DHCP
> database from Server1 and likewise used it to import the database on
> Server2. I then authorized Server2 as a DHCP server.
>
> The problem is when I stop the DHCP service on Server1 and attempt to
> get a DHCP address on a client PC, I don't get one. As soon as I
> restart the DHCP service on Server 1, I do. I ran Wireshark on
> Server2 and it sees the DHCP broadcasts coming in, but nothing
> happens.
>
> Can anyone share some suggestions?
>



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Old 29-10-2009
Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]
 
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Re: Second DHCP server seems to be ignoring requests

I would suspect it is either the fact the DHCP server hasn't been authorized
yet in AD -or- the clients aren't on the same subnet as the DHCP server and
a dhcp helper (Relay on a router) on the remote subnets hasn't been
configured.

--
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MVP - Directory Services
MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4
Microsoft's Thrive IT Pro of the Month - June 2009

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"tdnnash25" <tdnnash25@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:37731dcb-32a4-4277-987e-19f6d2205a20@t2g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>I have a Domain Controller that is doing DHCP but we are going to be
> taking it down. Thus, I am tasked with getting DHCP, DNS, etc
> configured on Server2.
>
> Server 2 is a domain controller. I used netsh to export the DHCP
> database from Server1 and likewise used it to import the database on
> Server2. I then authorized Server2 as a DHCP server.
>
> The problem is when I stop the DHCP service on Server1 and attempt to
> get a DHCP address on a client PC, I don't get one. As soon as I
> restart the DHCP service on Server 1, I do. I ran Wireshark on
> Server2 and it sees the DHCP broadcasts coming in, but nothing
> happens.
>
> Can anyone share some suggestions?



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  #11  
Old 29-10-2009
tdnnash25
 
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Re: Second DHCP server seems to be ignoring requests

Meinolf,

It is listed in authorized servers, had already checked that. Server
2003, no firewall running on it.

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Old 29-10-2009
tdnnash25
 
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Re: Second DHCP server seems to be ignoring requests

On Oct 29, 7:27*am, "Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]" <pbbergs@no_spammsn.com>
wrote:
> I would suspect it is either the fact the DHCP server hasn't been authorized
> yet in AD -or- the clients aren't on the same subnet as the DHCP server and
> a dhcp helper (Relay on a router) on the remote subnets hasn't been
> configured.
>


It has been authorized in AD. The clients I'm testing with are on a
different subnet in a VM. But, the primary DHCP server is on the same
subnet as the secondary DHCP server (10.10.11.x). I am not sure about
a Relay though.
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  #13  
Old 29-10-2009
Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]
 
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Re: Second DHCP server seems to be ignoring requests

Here some backgroup on a relay agent. This can/should be first configured
on a router if possible.

http://www.tech-faq.com/dhcp-relay-agent.shtml

--
Paul Bergson
MVP - Directory Services
MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4
Microsoft's Thrive IT Pro of the Month - June 2009

http://www.pbbergs.com

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"tdnnash25" <tdnnash25@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:794325db-5212-47a3-9310-aa63d6078f33@j4g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 29, 7:27 am, "Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]" <pbbergs@no_spammsn.com>
wrote:
> I would suspect it is either the fact the DHCP server hasn't been
> authorized
> yet in AD -or- the clients aren't on the same subnet as the DHCP server
> and
> a dhcp helper (Relay on a router) on the remote subnets hasn't been
> configured.
>


It has been authorized in AD. The clients I'm testing with are on a
different subnet in a VM. But, the primary DHCP server is on the same
subnet as the secondary DHCP server (10.10.11.x). I am not sure about
a Relay though.


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  #14  
Old 29-10-2009
Ace Fekay [MCT]
 
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Re: Second DHCP server seems to be ignoring requests

> On Oct 29, 7:27*am, "Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]" <pbbergs@no_spammsn.com>
> wrote:
>> I would suspect it is either the fact the DHCP server hasn't been authorized
>> yet in AD -or- the clients aren't on the same subnet as the DHCP server and
>> a dhcp helper (Relay on a router) on the remote subnets hasn't been
>> configured.
>>

>
> It has been authorized in AD. The clients I'm testing with are on a
> different subnet in a VM. But, the primary DHCP server is on the same
> subnet as the secondary DHCP server (10.10.11.x). I am not sure about
> a Relay though.


If the clients are on a different subnet, then I assume that the DHCP
scope is set to an IP range for the subnet the clients are sitting on,
and the DHCP server is either directly connected to that subnet
(meaning the interface of the DHCP server has an IP on that subnet), or
there is a DHCP Relay agent to receive/transmit DHCP requests from that
subnet to the DHCP server on a different subnet.

DHCP will only work if one of the interfaces are configured with a
configuration with an IP address in the same subnet as the scope but
not within the scope. Otherwise, if the clients are on a subnet the
DHCP server is not connected to, then you must use some sort of DHCP
relay agent or IP helper.

Ace

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  #15  
Old 29-10-2009
Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]
 
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Re: Second DHCP server seems to be ignoring requests

Hello tdnnash25,

Please post an unedited ipconfig /all from both servers. Also post the scope
options and the scope range.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> Meinolf,
>
> It is listed in authorized servers, had already checked that. Server
> 2003, no firewall running on it.
>



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