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| DC/ DNS 2000 to 2003 Migration
Hello, In our environment we have 2 Windows 2000 servers that act as DC/ DNS servers. We bought a new server running windows 2003 which I would like to make that our new DC/ DNS server. After this is done, I'd decommision one of our existing Windows 2000 DC/ DNS servers and will upgrade the other to Windows 2003. We have serveral other Windows 2003 servers (Exchange 2003, File/ Print and Application servers) which are all member servers. What's the best way to accomplish this? Thank you in advance. |
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| Re: DC/ DNS 2000 to 2003 Migration
Assuming that your Windows 2000 DC/DNS servers are at SP4, then a quick outline could be something as short as... * Add Windows 2003 server to domain * DCPromo to a domain controller * Make it a Global Catalog if desired * Install DNS * Transfer FSMO Roles if desired * Wait 24/48 hours, verify health and review that everything works the way you want * Retire Windows 2000 "JimmyG" <jim@mycc.us> wrote in message news:99F560B8-B559-4E73-901B-11B39A7031B0@microsoft.com... > Hello, > In our environment we have 2 Windows 2000 servers that act as DC/ DNS > servers. We bought a new server running windows 2003 which I would like to > make that our new DC/ DNS server. After this is done, I'd decommision one > of > our existing Windows 2000 DC/ DNS servers and will upgrade the other to > Windows 2003. > We have serveral other Windows 2003 servers (Exchange 2003, File/ Print > and > Application servers) which are all member servers. What's the best way to > accomplish this? Thank you in advance. |
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| Re: DC/ DNS 2000 to 2003 Migration
"neo" <neo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:urH8o9TRKHA.4244@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Assuming that your Windows 2000 DC/DNS servers are at SP4, then a quick > outline could be something as short as... > > * Add Windows 2003 server to domain > * DCPromo to a domain controller > * Make it a Global Catalog if desired > * Install DNS > * Transfer FSMO Roles if desired > * Wait 24/48 hours, verify health and review that everything works the way > you want > * Retire Windows 2000 > Good generalized plan, however I would like to add and point out a few things out for the JimmyG, the original poster. I suggest to also take inventory of type of clients, firewall vendor, model and IOS installed, and more. Please read... --- In one domain, all DCs are recommended to be GCs. If more than one domain, the IM role can't be on a GC, however this doesn't apply with a single domain. The DNM (Domain Name Master) role must be on a GC. When promoting a 2003 server into a 2000 domain, adprep must be run. I would recommend running it first instead of simply promoting the 2003 server. Reason why, is to make sure there aren't any issues with updating to the 2003 schema, especially since Exchange is involved. Read the following for more info. What do I need to do to prepare my Windows 2000 forest for the installation of the first Windows Server 2003 DC? http://www.petri.co.il/windows_2003_adprep.htm Hotfixes to Install on Windows 2000 Domain Controllers Before Running Adprep /Forestprep - 331161 http://www.petri.co.il/windows_2003_adprep.htm --- It is highly recommended to not multihome a DC. A multihomed DC can be a DC with two or more NICs, and/or IP address, or that has RRAS and/or PPPoE installed. Read more for a comprehensive explanation. Multihomed DCs with DNS, RRAS, multiple IPs, and/or PPPoE adapters http://msmvps.com/blogs/acefekay/arc...-adapters.aspx --- When introducing the next release of an OS into a domain, it is minimally recommended to move the DNM and Schema Master roles to the new DC. Run dcpromo after installing DNS. This way after the promotion, the zone(s) will automatically appear. Do not manually create the zone(s) in DNS, or you will create a duplicate zone issue in the AD database. ADSI Edit is required to fix this issue. Read the following to see what I mean. Using ADSI Edit to Resolve Conflicting or Duplicate AD Integrated DNS zones http://msmvps.com/blogs/acefekay/arc...dns-zones.aspx --- The same thing goes with DNS management. Due to the application partitions that are introduced with 2003, if one tries to manage DNS zone properties and inadvertently chooses a replication scope that 2000 does not recognize, it may also results in a duplicate zone issue. If one does not understand the differences, and both 2000 and 2003 will be hosting the zones, it is recommended to administer DNs from the 2000 server until all DCs are 2003. Also when introducing Windows 2003 DNS, a feature called EDNS0 is used that makes DNS resolution more efficient. This feature uses larger UDP packet sizes to 1280 bytes, where the older implementation only goes to 512 bytes. Many older firewalls, or firewalls that have not been upgraded will block this type of traffic. YOu will need to check with your firewall vendor to insure it will support ENDS0. Read the following for more info. An External DNS Query May Cause an Error Message in Windows Server 2003: http://support.microsoft.com/?id=828731 Some DNS Name Queries Are Unsuccessful After You Upgrade Your DNS Server to Windows Server 2003: http://support.microsoft.com/?id=832223 --- Once all DCs are all 2003, you will need to reconfigure the _msdcs zone replication scope and set it as a delegated child zone. How to reconfigure an _msdcs subdomain to a forest-wide DNS application directory partition when you upgrade from Windows 2000 to Windows Server 2003 http://support.microsoft.com/?id=817470 --- As far as the original poster stating to "upgrade" the 2000 server to 2003, I would highly advise and recommend to not upgrade, but rather once one of the 2000 DCs have been demoted, to reinstall it with 2003 from scratch. This insure no issues from an upgrade. I've seen too many problems with upgraded machines. One issue with upgraded DCs is GPO issues, especially if the default Domain Policy or the Default Domain Controller Policy have been altered to add additional settings. This is not recommended, but many have done so, causing problems. One such are event logs 1030 and/or 1058 errors. Read more... DCGPOfix tool. Restores the default Group Policy objects to their original state (that is, the default state after initial installation. http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window...209d21033.mspx --- If using OSx or legacy clients (NT4 and Win9x), there may be issues with the ability to logon or access resources with authentication to 2003 AD with SMB signing. Read the following for more info. 555038 How to enable Windows 98-ME-NT clients to logon to Windows 2003 based Domains http://support.microsoft.com/?id=555038 --- Once the PDC Emulator has been moved to the Windows 2003 DC, you will have to reconfigure the time service on it to an external source. Don't forget to ensure the firewall allows UDP123 to the PDC emulator. Configuring the Windows Time Service for Windows Server http://msmvps.com/blogs/acefekay/arc...ws-server.aspx --- Read the following for additional information. Common Mistakes When Upgrading a Windows 2000 Domain To a Windows 2003 Domain (whether it was upgraded or not, this is full of useful information relating to AD and DNS, among other info): http://support.microsoft.com/?id=555040 887426 Incorrect Schema extension for OSx prevents ForestPrep from completing in Windows 2000: http://support.microsoft.com/?id=887426 325379 How to Upgrade Windows 2000 Domain Controllers to Windows Server 2003 http://support.microsoft.com/?id=325379 324392 Enhancements to Adprep.exe in Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1 and in hotfix 324392 http://support.microsoft.com/?id=32439 What information is available when UPGRADING from W2K/E2K to W2K3 (R2)/E2K3? http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge...11/19/110.aspx I hope that helps. -- Ace This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and confers no rights. Please reply back to the newsgroup or forum for collaboration benefit among responding engineers, and to help others benefit from your resolution. Ace Fekay, MCT, MCTS 2008, MCTS Exchange, MCSE, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSA Messaging Microsoft Certified Trainer For urgent issues, please contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers. |
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| Re: DC/ DNS 2000 to 2003 Migration
Hello JimmyG, See here for upgrading to 2003. !!!NEVER START BEFORE HAVING CREATED AND TESTED A BACKUP OF YOUR DATA/MACHINE!!! One question first: Is the old server also Exchange server and will it be taken out of the domain forever, when the new server is running? - On the old server open DNS management console and check that you are running Active directory integrated zone (easier for replication, if you have more then one DNS server) - run replmon from the run line or repadmin /showreps (only if more then one DC exist), dcdiag and netdiag from the command prompt on the old machine to check for errors, if you have some post the complete output from the command here or solve them first. For this tools you have to install the support\tools\suptools.msi from the 2000 or 2003 installation disk. - run adprep /forestprep and adprep /domainprep from the 2003 installation disk against the 2000 server, with an account that is member of the Schema admins, to upgrade the schema to the new version - Install the new machine as a member server in your existing domain - configure a fixed ip and set the preferred DNS server to the old DNS server only - run dcpromo and follow the wizard to add the 2003 server to an existing domain - if you are prompted for DNS configuration choose Yes (also possible that no DNS preparation occur), then install DNS after the reboot - for DNS give the server time for replication, at least 15 minutes. Because you use Active directory integrated zones it will automatically replicate the zones to the new server. Open DNS management console to check that they appear - if the new machine is domain controller and DNS server run again replmon, dcdiag and netdiag on both domain controllers - if you have no errors, make the new server Global catalog server, open Active directory Sites and Services and then double-click sitename, double-click Servers, click your domain controller, right-click NTDS Settings, and then click Properties, on the General tab, click to select the Global catalog check box (http://support.microsoft.com/?id=313994) - Transfer, NOT seize the 5 FSMO roles to the new Domain controller (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/324801) - you can see in the event viewer (Directory service) that the roles are transferred, also give it some time - reconfigure the DNS configuration on your NIC of the 2003 server, preferred DNS itself, secondary the old one - if you use DHCP do not forget to reconfigure the scope settings to point to the new installed DNS server - export and import of DHCP database (if needed) (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/325473) - backup WINS (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc727901.aspx) - restore WINS (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc727960.aspx) Demoting the old DC (if needed) - reconfigure your clients/servers that they not longer point to the old DC/DNS server on the NIC - to be sure that everything runs fine, disconnect the old DC from the network and check with clients and servers the connectivity, logon and also with one client a restart to see that everything is ok - then run dcpromo to demote the old DC, if it works fine the machine will move from the DC's OU to the computers container, where you can delete it by hand. Can be that you got an error during demoting at the beginning, then uncheck the Global catalog on that DC and try again - check the DNS management console, that all entries from the machine are disappeared or delete them by hand if the machine is off the network for ever - also you have to start AD sites and services and delete the old servername under the site, this will not be done during demotion Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm > Hello, > In our environment we have 2 Windows 2000 servers that act as DC/ DNS > servers. We bought a new server running windows 2003 which I would > like to > make that our new DC/ DNS server. After this is done, I'd decommision > one of > our existing Windows 2000 DC/ DNS servers and will upgrade the other > to > Windows 2003. > We have serveral other Windows 2003 servers (Exchange 2003, File/ > Print and > Application servers) which are all member servers. What's the best way > to > accomplish this? Thank you in advance. |
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| Re: DC/ DNS 2000 to 2003 Migration
I have an upgrade article available for this at: http://www.pbbergs.com/windows/articles.htm -- Paul Bergson MVP - Directory Services MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci 2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4 Microsoft's Thrive IT Pro of the Month - June 2009 http://www.pbbergs.com Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. "JimmyG" <jim@mycc.us> wrote in message news:99F560B8-B559-4E73-901B-11B39A7031B0@microsoft.com... > Hello, > In our environment we have 2 Windows 2000 servers that act as DC/ DNS > servers. We bought a new server running windows 2003 which I would like to > make that our new DC/ DNS server. After this is done, I'd decommision one > of > our existing Windows 2000 DC/ DNS servers and will upgrade the other to > Windows 2003. > We have serveral other Windows 2003 servers (Exchange 2003, File/ Print > and > Application servers) which are all member servers. What's the best way to > accomplish this? Thank you in advance. |
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| Re: DC/ DNS 2000 to 2003 Migration
Thanks Neo. One last question. After I retire the Windows 2000 server and shut it down, do you anticipate any issues with assiging the same host name and IP address of the Windows 2000 server to the new Windows 2003 server? "neo" wrote: > Assuming that your Windows 2000 DC/DNS servers are at SP4, then a quick > outline could be something as short as... > > * Add Windows 2003 server to domain > * DCPromo to a domain controller > * Make it a Global Catalog if desired > * Install DNS > * Transfer FSMO Roles if desired > * Wait 24/48 hours, verify health and review that everything works the way > you want > * Retire Windows 2000 > > "JimmyG" <jim@mycc.us> wrote in message > news:99F560B8-B559-4E73-901B-11B39A7031B0@microsoft.com... > > Hello, > > In our environment we have 2 Windows 2000 servers that act as DC/ DNS > > servers. We bought a new server running windows 2003 which I would like to > > make that our new DC/ DNS server. After this is done, I'd decommision one > > of > > our existing Windows 2000 DC/ DNS servers and will upgrade the other to > > Windows 2003. > > We have serveral other Windows 2003 servers (Exchange 2003, File/ Print > > and > > Application servers) which are all member servers. What's the best way to > > accomplish this? Thank you in advance. > > |
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| Re: DC/ DNS 2000 to 2003 Migration
Thanks Ace. "Ace Fekay [MCT]" wrote: > "neo" <neo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:urH8o9TRKHA.4244@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > Assuming that your Windows 2000 DC/DNS servers are at SP4, then a quick > > outline could be something as short as... > > > > * Add Windows 2003 server to domain > > * DCPromo to a domain controller > > * Make it a Global Catalog if desired > > * Install DNS > > * Transfer FSMO Roles if desired > > * Wait 24/48 hours, verify health and review that everything works the way > > you want > > * Retire Windows 2000 > > > > > Good generalized plan, however I would like to add and point out a few > things out for the JimmyG, the original poster. > > I suggest to also take inventory of type of clients, firewall vendor, model > and IOS installed, and more. Please read... > > --- > In one domain, all DCs are recommended to be GCs. If more than one domain, > the IM role can't be on a GC, however this doesn't apply with a single > domain. > > The DNM (Domain Name Master) role must be on a GC. > > When promoting a 2003 server into a 2000 domain, adprep must be run. I would > recommend running it first instead of simply promoting the 2003 server. > Reason why, is to make sure there aren't any issues with updating to the > 2003 schema, especially since Exchange is involved. Read the following for > more info. > > What do I need to do to prepare my Windows 2000 forest for the installation > of the first Windows Server 2003 DC? > http://www.petri.co.il/windows_2003_adprep.htm > > Hotfixes to Install on Windows 2000 Domain Controllers Before Running Adprep > /Forestprep - 331161 > http://www.petri.co.il/windows_2003_adprep.htm > > --- > It is highly recommended to not multihome a DC. A multihomed DC can be a DC > with two or more NICs, and/or IP address, or that has RRAS and/or PPPoE > installed. Read more for a comprehensive explanation. > > Multihomed DCs with DNS, RRAS, multiple IPs, and/or PPPoE adapters > http://msmvps.com/blogs/acefekay/arc...-adapters.aspx > > --- > When introducing the next release of an OS into a domain, it is minimally > recommended to move the DNM and Schema Master roles to the new DC. > > Run dcpromo after installing DNS. This way after the promotion, the zone(s) > will automatically appear. Do not manually create the zone(s) in DNS, or you > will create a duplicate zone issue in the AD database. ADSI Edit is required > to fix this issue. Read the following to see what I mean. > > Using ADSI Edit to Resolve Conflicting or Duplicate AD Integrated DNS zones > http://msmvps.com/blogs/acefekay/arc...dns-zones.aspx > > --- > The same thing goes with DNS management. Due to the application partitions > that are introduced with 2003, if one tries to manage DNS zone properties > and inadvertently chooses a replication scope that 2000 does not recognize, > it may also results in a duplicate zone issue. If one does not understand > the differences, and both 2000 and 2003 will be hosting the zones, it is > recommended to administer DNs from the 2000 server until all DCs are 2003. > > Also when introducing Windows 2003 DNS, a feature called EDNS0 is used that > makes DNS resolution more efficient. This feature uses larger UDP packet > sizes to 1280 bytes, where the older implementation only goes to 512 bytes. > Many older firewalls, or firewalls that have not been upgraded will block > this type of traffic. YOu will need to check with your firewall vendor to > insure it will support ENDS0. Read the following for more info. > > An External DNS Query May Cause an Error Message in Windows Server 2003: > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=828731 > > Some DNS Name Queries Are Unsuccessful After You Upgrade Your DNS Server to > Windows Server 2003: > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=832223 > > --- > Once all DCs are all 2003, you will need to reconfigure the _msdcs zone > replication scope and set it as a delegated child zone. > > How to reconfigure an _msdcs subdomain to a forest-wide DNS application > directory partition when you upgrade from Windows 2000 to Windows Server > 2003 > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=817470 > > --- > As far as the original poster stating to "upgrade" the 2000 server to 2003, > I would highly advise and recommend to not upgrade, but rather once one of > the 2000 DCs have been demoted, to reinstall it with 2003 from scratch. This > insure no issues from an upgrade. I've seen too many problems with upgraded > machines. > > One issue with upgraded DCs is GPO issues, especially if the default Domain > Policy or the Default Domain Controller Policy have been altered to add > additional settings. This is not recommended, but many have done so, causing > problems. One such are event logs 1030 and/or 1058 errors. Read more... > > DCGPOfix tool. Restores the default Group Policy objects to their original > state (that is, the default state after initial installation. > http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window...209d21033.mspx > > --- > If using OSx or legacy clients (NT4 and Win9x), there may be issues with the > ability to logon or access resources with authentication to 2003 AD with SMB > signing. Read the following for more info. > > 555038 How to enable Windows 98-ME-NT clients to logon to Windows 2003 based > Domains > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=555038 > > --- > Once the PDC Emulator has been moved to the Windows 2003 DC, you will have > to reconfigure the time service on it to an external source. Don't forget to > ensure the firewall allows UDP123 to the PDC emulator. > > Configuring the Windows Time Service for Windows Server > http://msmvps.com/blogs/acefekay/arc...ws-server.aspx > > > --- > Read the following for additional information. > > Common Mistakes When Upgrading a Windows 2000 Domain To a Windows 2003 > Domain (whether it was upgraded or not, this is full of useful information > relating to AD and DNS, among other info): > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=555040 > > 887426 Incorrect Schema extension for OSx prevents ForestPrep from > completing in Windows 2000: > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=887426 > > 325379 How to Upgrade Windows 2000 Domain Controllers to Windows Server 2003 > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=325379 > > 324392 Enhancements to Adprep.exe in Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1 and > in hotfix 324392 > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=32439 > > What information is available when UPGRADING from W2K/E2K to W2K3 (R2)/E2K3? > http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge...11/19/110.aspx > > I hope that helps. > > > -- > Ace > > This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and > confers no rights. > > Please reply back to the newsgroup or forum for collaboration benefit among > responding engineers, and to help others benefit from your resolution. > > Ace Fekay, MCT, MCTS 2008, MCTS Exchange, MCSE, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSA > Messaging > Microsoft Certified Trainer > > For urgent issues, please contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please check > http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers. > > > > > |
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| Re: DC/ DNS 2000 to 2003 Migration
The old server is not an exchange server and will be taken out of the domain and will be shut down. Thanks for your response. One more question: After I retire the Windows 2000 server and shut it down, do you anticipate any issues with assiging the same host name and IP address of the Windows 2000 server to the new Windows 2003 server? "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote: > Hello JimmyG, > > See here for upgrading to 2003. > > !!!NEVER START BEFORE HAVING CREATED AND TESTED A BACKUP OF YOUR DATA/MACHINE!!! > > One question first: > Is the old server also Exchange server and will it be taken out of the domain > forever, when the new server is running? > > - On the old server open DNS management console and check that you are running > Active directory integrated zone (easier for replication, if you have more > then one DNS server) > > - run replmon from the run line or repadmin /showreps (only if more then > one DC exist), dcdiag and netdiag from the command prompt on the old machine > to check for errors, if you have some post the complete output from the command > here or solve them first. For this tools you have to install the support\tools\suptools.msi > from the 2000 or 2003 installation disk. > > - run adprep /forestprep and adprep /domainprep from the 2003 installation > disk against the 2000 server, with an account that is member of the Schema > admins, to upgrade the schema to the new version > > - Install the new machine as a member server in your existing domain > > - configure a fixed ip and set the preferred DNS server to the old DNS server > only > > - run dcpromo and follow the wizard to add the 2003 server to an existing > domain > > - if you are prompted for DNS configuration choose Yes (also possible that > no DNS preparation occur), then install DNS after the reboot > > - for DNS give the server time for replication, at least 15 minutes. Because > you use Active directory integrated zones it will automatically replicate > the zones to the new server. Open DNS management console to check that they > appear > > - if the new machine is domain controller and DNS server run again replmon, > dcdiag and netdiag on both domain controllers > > - if you have no errors, make the new server Global catalog server, open > Active directory Sites and Services and then double-click sitename, double-click > Servers, click your domain controller, right-click NTDS Settings, and then > click Properties, on the General tab, click to select the Global catalog > check box (http://support.microsoft.com/?id=313994) > > - Transfer, NOT seize the 5 FSMO roles to the new Domain controller (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/324801) > > - you can see in the event viewer (Directory service) that the roles are > transferred, also give it some time > > - reconfigure the DNS configuration on your NIC of the 2003 server, preferred > DNS itself, secondary the old one > > - if you use DHCP do not forget to reconfigure the scope settings to point > to the new installed DNS server > > - export and import of DHCP database (if needed) (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/325473) > > - backup WINS (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc727901.aspx) > > - restore WINS (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc727960.aspx) > > > Demoting the old DC (if needed) > > - reconfigure your clients/servers that they not longer point to the old > DC/DNS server on the NIC > > - to be sure that everything runs fine, disconnect the old DC from the network > and check with clients and servers the connectivity, logon and also with > one client a restart to see that everything is ok > > - then run dcpromo to demote the old DC, if it works fine the machine will > move from the DC's OU to the computers container, where you can delete it > by hand. Can be that you got an error during demoting at the beginning, then > uncheck the Global catalog on that DC and try again > > - check the DNS management console, that all entries from the machine are > disappeared or delete them by hand if the machine is off the network for ever > > - also you have to start AD sites and services and delete the old servername > under the site, this will not be done during demotion > > Best regards > > Meinolf Weber > Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers > no rights. > ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups > ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm > > > > Hello, > > In our environment we have 2 Windows 2000 servers that act as DC/ DNS > > servers. We bought a new server running windows 2003 which I would > > like to > > make that our new DC/ DNS server. After this is done, I'd decommision > > one of > > our existing Windows 2000 DC/ DNS servers and will upgrade the other > > to > > Windows 2003. > > We have serveral other Windows 2003 servers (Exchange 2003, File/ > > Print and > > Application servers) which are all member servers. What's the best way > > to > > accomplish this? Thank you in advance. > > > |
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| Re: DC/ DNS 2000 to 2003 Migration Thanks Paul for your response. One more question: After I retire the Windows 2000 server and shut it down, do you anticipate any issues with assiging the same host name and IP address of the Windows 2000 server to the new Windows 2003 server? "Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]" wrote: > I have an upgrade article available for this at: > http://www.pbbergs.com/windows/articles.htm > > -- > Paul Bergson > MVP - Directory Services > MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci > 2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4 > Microsoft's Thrive IT Pro of the Month - June 2009 > > http://www.pbbergs.com > > Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup This > posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. > > "JimmyG" <jim@mycc.us> wrote in message > news:99F560B8-B559-4E73-901B-11B39A7031B0@microsoft.com... > > Hello, > > In our environment we have 2 Windows 2000 servers that act as DC/ DNS > > servers. We bought a new server running windows 2003 which I would like to > > make that our new DC/ DNS server. After this is done, I'd decommision one > > of > > our existing Windows 2000 DC/ DNS servers and will upgrade the other to > > Windows 2003. > > We have serveral other Windows 2003 servers (Exchange 2003, File/ Print > > and > > Application servers) which are all member servers. What's the best way to > > accomplish this? Thank you in advance. > > > |
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| Re: DC/ DNS 2000 to 2003 Migration
"JimmyG" <jim@mycc.us> wrote in message news:DFBEE152-9022-4EEC-815C-2281945A4891@microsoft.com... > Thanks Ace. You are welcome! Ace > > "Ace Fekay [MCT]" wrote: > >> "neo" <neo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:urH8o9TRKHA.4244@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> > Assuming that your Windows 2000 DC/DNS servers are at SP4, then a quick >> > outline could be something as short as... >> > >> > * Add Windows 2003 server to domain >> > * DCPromo to a domain controller >> > * Make it a Global Catalog if desired >> > * Install DNS >> > * Transfer FSMO Roles if desired >> > * Wait 24/48 hours, verify health and review that everything works the >> > way >> > you want >> > * Retire Windows 2000 >> > >> >> >> Good generalized plan, however I would like to add and point out a few >> things out for the JimmyG, the original poster. >> >> I suggest to also take inventory of type of clients, firewall vendor, >> model >> and IOS installed, and more. Please read... >> >> --- >> In one domain, all DCs are recommended to be GCs. If more than one >> domain, >> the IM role can't be on a GC, however this doesn't apply with a single >> domain. >> >> The DNM (Domain Name Master) role must be on a GC. >> >> When promoting a 2003 server into a 2000 domain, adprep must be run. I >> would >> recommend running it first instead of simply promoting the 2003 server. >> Reason why, is to make sure there aren't any issues with updating to the >> 2003 schema, especially since Exchange is involved. Read the following >> for >> more info. >> >> What do I need to do to prepare my Windows 2000 forest for the >> installation >> of the first Windows Server 2003 DC? >> http://www.petri.co.il/windows_2003_adprep.htm >> >> Hotfixes to Install on Windows 2000 Domain Controllers Before Running >> Adprep >> /Forestprep - 331161 >> http://www.petri.co.il/windows_2003_adprep.htm >> >> --- >> It is highly recommended to not multihome a DC. A multihomed DC can be a >> DC >> with two or more NICs, and/or IP address, or that has RRAS and/or PPPoE >> installed. Read more for a comprehensive explanation. >> >> Multihomed DCs with DNS, RRAS, multiple IPs, and/or PPPoE adapters >> http://msmvps.com/blogs/acefekay/arc...-adapters.aspx >> >> --- >> When introducing the next release of an OS into a domain, it is minimally >> recommended to move the DNM and Schema Master roles to the new DC. >> >> Run dcpromo after installing DNS. This way after the promotion, the >> zone(s) >> will automatically appear. Do not manually create the zone(s) in DNS, or >> you >> will create a duplicate zone issue in the AD database. ADSI Edit is >> required >> to fix this issue. Read the following to see what I mean. >> >> Using ADSI Edit to Resolve Conflicting or Duplicate AD Integrated DNS >> zones >> http://msmvps.com/blogs/acefekay/arc...dns-zones.aspx >> >> --- >> The same thing goes with DNS management. Due to the application >> partitions >> that are introduced with 2003, if one tries to manage DNS zone properties >> and inadvertently chooses a replication scope that 2000 does not >> recognize, >> it may also results in a duplicate zone issue. If one does not understand >> the differences, and both 2000 and 2003 will be hosting the zones, it is >> recommended to administer DNs from the 2000 server until all DCs are >> 2003. >> >> Also when introducing Windows 2003 DNS, a feature called EDNS0 is used >> that >> makes DNS resolution more efficient. This feature uses larger UDP packet >> sizes to 1280 bytes, where the older implementation only goes to 512 >> bytes. >> Many older firewalls, or firewalls that have not been upgraded will block >> this type of traffic. YOu will need to check with your firewall vendor to >> insure it will support ENDS0. Read the following for more info. >> >> An External DNS Query May Cause an Error Message in Windows Server 2003: >> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=828731 >> >> Some DNS Name Queries Are Unsuccessful After You Upgrade Your DNS Server >> to >> Windows Server 2003: >> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=832223 >> >> --- >> Once all DCs are all 2003, you will need to reconfigure the _msdcs zone >> replication scope and set it as a delegated child zone. >> >> How to reconfigure an _msdcs subdomain to a forest-wide DNS application >> directory partition when you upgrade from Windows 2000 to Windows Server >> 2003 >> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=817470 >> >> --- >> As far as the original poster stating to "upgrade" the 2000 server to >> 2003, >> I would highly advise and recommend to not upgrade, but rather once one >> of >> the 2000 DCs have been demoted, to reinstall it with 2003 from scratch. >> This >> insure no issues from an upgrade. I've seen too many problems with >> upgraded >> machines. >> >> One issue with upgraded DCs is GPO issues, especially if the default >> Domain >> Policy or the Default Domain Controller Policy have been altered to add >> additional settings. This is not recommended, but many have done so, >> causing >> problems. One such are event logs 1030 and/or 1058 errors. Read more... >> >> DCGPOfix tool. Restores the default Group Policy objects to their >> original >> state (that is, the default state after initial installation. >> http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window...209d21033.mspx >> >> --- >> If using OSx or legacy clients (NT4 and Win9x), there may be issues with >> the >> ability to logon or access resources with authentication to 2003 AD with >> SMB >> signing. Read the following for more info. >> >> 555038 How to enable Windows 98-ME-NT clients to logon to Windows 2003 >> based >> Domains >> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=555038 >> >> --- >> Once the PDC Emulator has been moved to the Windows 2003 DC, you will >> have >> to reconfigure the time service on it to an external source. Don't forget >> to >> ensure the firewall allows UDP123 to the PDC emulator. >> >> Configuring the Windows Time Service for Windows Server >> http://msmvps.com/blogs/acefekay/arc...ws-server.aspx >> >> >> --- >> Read the following for additional information. >> >> Common Mistakes When Upgrading a Windows 2000 Domain To a Windows 2003 >> Domain (whether it was upgraded or not, this is full of useful >> information >> relating to AD and DNS, among other info): >> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=555040 >> >> 887426 Incorrect Schema extension for OSx prevents ForestPrep from >> completing in Windows 2000: >> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=887426 >> >> 325379 How to Upgrade Windows 2000 Domain Controllers to Windows Server >> 2003 >> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=325379 >> >> 324392 Enhancements to Adprep.exe in Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1 >> and >> in hotfix 324392 >> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=32439 >> >> What information is available when UPGRADING from W2K/E2K to W2K3 >> (R2)/E2K3? >> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge...11/19/110.aspx >> >> I hope that helps. >> >> >> -- >> Ace >> >> This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and >> confers no rights. >> >> Please reply back to the newsgroup or forum for collaboration benefit >> among >> responding engineers, and to help others benefit from your resolution. >> >> Ace Fekay, MCT, MCTS 2008, MCTS Exchange, MCSE, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSA >> Messaging >> Microsoft Certified Trainer >> >> For urgent issues, please contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please check >> http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers. >> >> >> >> >> |
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"JimmyG" <jim@mycc.us> wrote in message news:31A00C45-6176-4EB4-BC62-803E5D3E0B7F@microsoft.com... > Thanks Neo. One last question. > After I retire the Windows 2000 server and shut it down, do you anticipate > any issues with assiging the same host name and IP address of the Windows > 2000 server to the new Windows 2003 server? > YOu can use the same name. Just give it some time for replication to occur once you've demoted the old server, and have renamed it or shut it down. Make sure it's name is out of WINS, if using WINS. If it's still showing up in DNS, delete it out. Check Sites and Services and make sure it is not listed. If it is, delete the server object. After replication has occured and you've made sure the old name no longer exists anywhere, then change the name of the server, reboot, then change the IP, install DNS, then promote it. Ace |
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Hello JimmyG, You have to demote the DC not only shutdown, to remove it complete form AD database, then delete it from AD sites and services and all DNS zones. If all the changes above are replicated to all DCs you can use the name again. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm > The old server is not an exchange server and will be taken out of the > domain > and will be shut down. > Thanks for your response. > One more question: > After I retire the Windows 2000 server and shut it down, do you > anticipate > any issues with assiging the same host name and IP address of the > Windows > 2000 server to the new Windows 2003 server? > > "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote: > >> Hello JimmyG, >> >> See here for upgrading to 2003. >> >> !!!NEVER START BEFORE HAVING CREATED AND TESTED A BACKUP OF YOUR >> DATA/MACHINE!!! >> >> One question first: >> Is the old server also Exchange server and will it be taken out of >> the domain >> forever, when the new server is running? >> - On the old server open DNS management console and check that you >> are running Active directory integrated zone (easier for replication, >> if you have more then one DNS server) >> >> - run replmon from the run line or repadmin /showreps (only if more >> then one DC exist), dcdiag and netdiag from the command prompt on the >> old machine to check for errors, if you have some post the complete >> output from the command here or solve them first. For this tools you >> have to install the support\tools\suptools.msi from the 2000 or 2003 >> installation disk. >> >> - run adprep /forestprep and adprep /domainprep from the 2003 >> installation disk against the 2000 server, with an account that is >> member of the Schema admins, to upgrade the schema to the new version >> >> - Install the new machine as a member server in your existing domain >> >> - configure a fixed ip and set the preferred DNS server to the old >> DNS server only >> >> - run dcpromo and follow the wizard to add the 2003 server to an >> existing domain >> >> - if you are prompted for DNS configuration choose Yes (also possible >> that no DNS preparation occur), then install DNS after the reboot >> >> - for DNS give the server time for replication, at least 15 minutes. >> Because you use Active directory integrated zones it will >> automatically replicate the zones to the new server. Open DNS >> management console to check that they appear >> >> - if the new machine is domain controller and DNS server run again >> replmon, dcdiag and netdiag on both domain controllers >> >> - if you have no errors, make the new server Global catalog server, >> open Active directory Sites and Services and then double-click >> sitename, double-click Servers, click your domain controller, >> right-click NTDS Settings, and then click Properties, on the General >> tab, click to select the Global catalog check box >> (http://support.microsoft.com/?id=313994) >> >> - Transfer, NOT seize the 5 FSMO roles to the new Domain controller >> (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/324801) >> >> - you can see in the event viewer (Directory service) that the roles >> are transferred, also give it some time >> >> - reconfigure the DNS configuration on your NIC of the 2003 server, >> preferred DNS itself, secondary the old one >> >> - if you use DHCP do not forget to reconfigure the scope settings to >> point to the new installed DNS server >> >> - export and import of DHCP database (if needed) >> (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/325473) >> >> - backup WINS >> (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc727901.aspx) >> >> - restore WINS >> (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc727960.aspx) >> >> Demoting the old DC (if needed) >> >> - reconfigure your clients/servers that they not longer point to the >> old DC/DNS server on the NIC >> >> - to be sure that everything runs fine, disconnect the old DC from >> the network and check with clients and servers the connectivity, >> logon and also with one client a restart to see that everything is ok >> >> - then run dcpromo to demote the old DC, if it works fine the machine >> will move from the DC's OU to the computers container, where you can >> delete it by hand. Can be that you got an error during demoting at >> the beginning, then uncheck the Global catalog on that DC and try >> again >> >> - check the DNS management console, that all entries from the machine >> are disappeared or delete them by hand if the machine is off the >> network for ever >> >> - also you have to start AD sites and services and delete the old >> servername under the site, this will not be done during demotion >> >> Best regards >> >> Meinolf Weber >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and >> confers >> no rights. >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm >>> Hello, >>> In our environment we have 2 Windows 2000 servers that act as DC/ >>> DNS >>> servers. We bought a new server running windows 2003 which I would >>> like to >>> make that our new DC/ DNS server. After this is done, I'd >>> decommision >>> one of >>> our existing Windows 2000 DC/ DNS servers and will upgrade the >>> other >>> to >>> Windows 2003. >>> We have serveral other Windows 2003 servers (Exchange 2003, File/ >>> Print and >>> Application servers) which are all member servers. What's the best >>> way >>> to >>> accomplish this? Thank you in advance. |
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As long as you do a dcpromo on the old machine there should be no problems at all. -- Paul Bergson MVP - Directory Services MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci 2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4 Microsoft's Thrive IT Pro of the Month - June 2009 http://www.pbbergs.com Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. "JimmyG" <jim@mycc.us> wrote in message news:E1E0B17C-90E8-4CD1-89C3-952AA091BA27@microsoft.com... > > Thanks Paul for your response. > One more question: > After I retire the Windows 2000 server and shut it down, do you anticipate > any issues with assiging the same host name and IP address of the Windows > 2000 server to the new Windows 2003 server? > > "Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]" wrote: > >> I have an upgrade article available for this at: >> http://www.pbbergs.com/windows/articles.htm >> >> -- >> Paul Bergson >> MVP - Directory Services >> MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci >> 2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4 >> Microsoft's Thrive IT Pro of the Month - June 2009 >> >> http://www.pbbergs.com >> >> Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup This >> posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. >> >> "JimmyG" <jim@mycc.us> wrote in message >> news:99F560B8-B559-4E73-901B-11B39A7031B0@microsoft.com... >> > Hello, >> > In our environment we have 2 Windows 2000 servers that act as DC/ DNS >> > servers. We bought a new server running windows 2003 which I would like >> > to >> > make that our new DC/ DNS server. After this is done, I'd decommision >> > one >> > of >> > our existing Windows 2000 DC/ DNS servers and will upgrade the other >> > to >> > Windows 2003. >> > We have serveral other Windows 2003 servers (Exchange 2003, File/ Print >> > and >> > Application servers) which are all member servers. What's the best way >> > to >> > accomplish this? Thank you in advance. >> >> >> |
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Hi Meinolf: I setup the new 2003 DC and installed adminpack and when I ru active directory users and computers, I don't see the Exchange tasks (I have advanced features enabled). Do you know why? Exchange 2003 is running on a member 2003 server. Thx. "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote: > Hello JimmyG, > > You have to demote the DC not only shutdown, to remove it complete form AD > database, then delete it from AD sites and services and all DNS zones. > > If all the changes above are replicated to all DCs you can use the name again. > > Best regards > > Meinolf Weber > Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers > no rights. > ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups > ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm > > > > The old server is not an exchange server and will be taken out of the > > domain > > and will be shut down. > > Thanks for your response. > > One more question: > > After I retire the Windows 2000 server and shut it down, do you > > anticipate > > any issues with assiging the same host name and IP address of the > > Windows > > 2000 server to the new Windows 2003 server? > > > > "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote: > > > >> Hello JimmyG, > >> > >> See here for upgrading to 2003. > >> > >> !!!NEVER START BEFORE HAVING CREATED AND TESTED A BACKUP OF YOUR > >> DATA/MACHINE!!! > >> > >> One question first: > >> Is the old server also Exchange server and will it be taken out of > >> the domain > >> forever, when the new server is running? > >> - On the old server open DNS management console and check that you > >> are running Active directory integrated zone (easier for replication, > >> if you have more then one DNS server) > >> > >> - run replmon from the run line or repadmin /showreps (only if more > >> then one DC exist), dcdiag and netdiag from the command prompt on the > >> old machine to check for errors, if you have some post the complete > >> output from the command here or solve them first. For this tools you > >> have to install the support\tools\suptools.msi from the 2000 or 2003 > >> installation disk. > >> > >> - run adprep /forestprep and adprep /domainprep from the 2003 > >> installation disk against the 2000 server, with an account that is > >> member of the Schema admins, to upgrade the schema to the new version > >> > >> - Install the new machine as a member server in your existing domain > >> > >> - configure a fixed ip and set the preferred DNS server to the old > >> DNS server only > >> > >> - run dcpromo and follow the wizard to add the 2003 server to an > >> existing domain > >> > >> - if you are prompted for DNS configuration choose Yes (also possible > >> that no DNS preparation occur), then install DNS after the reboot > >> > >> - for DNS give the server time for replication, at least 15 minutes. > >> Because you use Active directory integrated zones it will > >> automatically replicate the zones to the new server. Open DNS > >> management console to check that they appear > >> > >> - if the new machine is domain controller and DNS server run again > >> replmon, dcdiag and netdiag on both domain controllers > >> > >> - if you have no errors, make the new server Global catalog server, > >> open Active directory Sites and Services and then double-click > >> sitename, double-click Servers, click your domain controller, > >> right-click NTDS Settings, and then click Properties, on the General > >> tab, click to select the Global catalog check box > >> (http://support.microsoft.com/?id=313994) > >> > >> - Transfer, NOT seize the 5 FSMO roles to the new Domain controller > >> (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/324801) > >> > >> - you can see in the event viewer (Directory service) that the roles > >> are transferred, also give it some time > >> > >> - reconfigure the DNS configuration on your NIC of the 2003 server, > >> preferred DNS itself, secondary the old one > >> > >> - if you use DHCP do not forget to reconfigure the scope settings to > >> point to the new installed DNS server > >> > >> - export and import of DHCP database (if needed) > >> (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/325473) > >> > >> - backup WINS > >> (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc727901.aspx) > >> > >> - restore WINS > >> (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc727960.aspx) > >> > >> Demoting the old DC (if needed) > >> > >> - reconfigure your clients/servers that they not longer point to the > >> old DC/DNS server on the NIC > >> > >> - to be sure that everything runs fine, disconnect the old DC from > >> the network and check with clients and servers the connectivity, > >> logon and also with one client a restart to see that everything is ok > >> > >> - then run dcpromo to demote the old DC, if it works fine the machine > >> will move from the DC's OU to the computers container, where you can > >> delete it by hand. Can be that you got an error during demoting at > >> the beginning, then uncheck the Global catalog on that DC and try > >> again > >> > >> - check the DNS management console, that all entries from the machine > >> are disappeared or delete them by hand if the machine is off the > >> network for ever > >> > >> - also you have to start AD sites and services and delete the old > >> servername under the site, this will not be done during demotion > >> > >> Best regards > >> > >> Meinolf Weber > >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and > >> confers > >> no rights. > >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups > >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm > >>> Hello, > >>> In our environment we have 2 Windows 2000 servers that act as DC/ > >>> DNS > >>> servers. We bought a new server running windows 2003 which I would > >>> like to > >>> make that our new DC/ DNS server. After this is done, I'd > >>> decommision > >>> one of > >>> our existing Windows 2000 DC/ DNS servers and will upgrade the > >>> other > >>> to > >>> Windows 2003. > >>> We have serveral other Windows 2003 servers (Exchange 2003, File/ > >>> Print and > >>> Application servers) which are all member servers. What's the best > >>> way > >>> to > >>> accomplish this? Thank you in advance. > > > |
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Hi Paul: I setup the new 2003 DC and installed adminpack and when I ru active directory users and computers, I don't see the Exchange tasks (I have advanced features enabled). Do you know why? Exchange 2003 is running on a member 2003 server. Thx. "Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]" wrote: > As long as you do a dcpromo on the old machine there should be no problems > at all. > > -- > Paul Bergson > MVP - Directory Services > MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci > 2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4 > Microsoft's Thrive IT Pro of the Month - June 2009 > > http://www.pbbergs.com > > Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup This > posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. > > "JimmyG" <jim@mycc.us> wrote in message > news:E1E0B17C-90E8-4CD1-89C3-952AA091BA27@microsoft.com... > > > > Thanks Paul for your response. > > One more question: > > After I retire the Windows 2000 server and shut it down, do you anticipate > > any issues with assiging the same host name and IP address of the Windows > > 2000 server to the new Windows 2003 server? > > > > "Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]" wrote: > > > >> I have an upgrade article available for this at: > >> http://www.pbbergs.com/windows/articles.htm > >> > >> -- > >> Paul Bergson > >> MVP - Directory Services > >> MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci > >> 2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4 > >> Microsoft's Thrive IT Pro of the Month - June 2009 > >> > >> http://www.pbbergs.com > >> > >> Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup This > >> posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. > >> > >> "JimmyG" <jim@mycc.us> wrote in message > >> news:99F560B8-B559-4E73-901B-11B39A7031B0@microsoft.com... > >> > Hello, > >> > In our environment we have 2 Windows 2000 servers that act as DC/ DNS > >> > servers. We bought a new server running windows 2003 which I would like > >> > to > >> > make that our new DC/ DNS server. After this is done, I'd decommision > >> > one > >> > of > >> > our existing Windows 2000 DC/ DNS servers and will upgrade the other > >> > to > >> > Windows 2003. > >> > We have serveral other Windows 2003 servers (Exchange 2003, File/ Print > >> > and > >> > Application servers) which are all member servers. What's the best way > >> > to > >> > accomplish this? Thank you in advance. > >> > >> > >> > > > |
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